1/26/25 GAMEDAY AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME Bills @ Chiefs Post Game Thread

[4th&long]

Mack hollins or Jamar chase, it's a toss up. 

Edited Monday at 01:24 PM by 4th&long

[UKBillFan]

3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

If you can find someone who can stop KC let me know.   They've been to the Super Bowl 5 of 6 years.     The last 11 of 15 years the Quarterback for the AFC in the Superbowl has been named Brady, Mahomes, or Manning.     We can complain about coaching, defense, injuries etc but its a waste of time.  The reality is the Chiefs have the 2nd best QB of all time and we don't.   And until we have that guy we aren't likely to get to or win the Super Bowl.    Josh is a helluva player.   He isnt the best quarterback. 

 

The Chiefs aren't going to the SB because of Mahomes. He's a key piece but, swap him with Josh, and the results would be the same. Their defense is a class apart as is Reid's/Spag's coaching.

[thenorthremembers]

3 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

The Chiefs aren't going to the SB because of Mahomes. He's a key piece but, swap him with Josh, and the results would be the same. Their defense is a class apart as is Reid's/Spag's coaching.

 

I dont know how you can watch that game last night and think Josh is the same as Mahomes.   One guy was cool as the other side of the pillow, playing within an offense, taking what the defense gave him.  The other guy was jumpy as hell the first quarter and rolling into pressure in the 4th.   

 

And if its not Mahomes how do you explain Reid not winning diddly crap until they drafted Mahomes?

Edited Monday at 01:04 PM by thenorthremembers

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

The Chiefs aren't going to the SB because of Mahomes. He's a key piece but, swap him with Josh, and the results would be the same. Their defense is a class apart as is Reid's/Spag's coaching.

yet their vaunted D gave up 29 points, and probably 36 if Kincaid catches that ball. Despite all the money and draft capital and coaching they spend on D, they only win due to their QB.

[Steptide]

12 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

If you can find someone who can stop KC let me know.   They've been to the Super Bowl 5 of 6 years.     The last 11 of 15 years the Quarterback for the AFC in the Superbowl has been named Brady, Mahomes, or Manning.     We can complain about coaching, defense, injuries etc but its a waste of time.  The reality is the Chiefs have the 2nd best QB of all time and we don't.   And until we have that guy we aren't likely to get to or win the Super Bowl.    Josh is a helluva player.   He isnt the best quarterback. 

 While I agree that kc is one of the best teams historically, the constant out coaching year after year is just absolutely frustrating. 

[thenorthremembers]

6 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

yet their vaunted D gave up 29 points, and probably 36 if Kincaid catches that ball. Despite all the money and draft capital and coaching they spend on D, they only win due to their QB.

 

Yet you still have people who want to tell you they only win because of Reid, Jones, and Kelce despite each one of them being on teams that constantly lost in the playoffs with Alex Smith at QB.

[UKBillFan]

Just now, thenorthremembers said:

 

I dont know how you can watch that game last night and think Josh is the same as Mahomes.   One guy was cool as the other side of the pillow, playing within an offense, taking what the defense gave him.  The other guy was jumpy as hell the first quarter and rolling into pressure in the 4th.   

 

Nerves did get to Josh in the first which was a shame because I thought he'd sorted them out. That is a concern and something, the one thing, more than anything, he needs to work on.

 

However, he was was not the QB who fumbled the ball. He was not the one to mess up in the red zone and had to take a FG from a great position for a TD. Mahomes and Josh were both good enough to win last night. The difference was bad calls, from Brady (no Cook and a lack of change from/to the sneak), McDermott/Babich (Spags adjusted to the sneak rolling left. The Bills coordinators? Just keep Mahomes running to the right without a stop) and the officials (I'm more peeved at the spot on Kincaid's play than the subsequent 'failed' sneak. And then we have the so-called Worthy completion).

 

Switch QBs and the Chiefs would have still won last night. Switch defenses and it would be the Bills going to the SB. If there was a switch coaches? Think the Bills would have made it. 

[thenorthremembers]

Just now, UKBillFan said:

 

Nerves did get to Josh in the first which was a shame because I thought he'd sorted them out. That is a concern and something, the one thing, more than anything, he needs to work on.

 

However, he was was not the QB who fumbled the ball. He was not the one to mess up in the red zone and had to take a FG from a great position for a TD. Mahomes and Josh were both good enough to win last night. The difference was bad calls, from Brady (no Cook and a lack of change from/to the sneak), McDermott/Babich (Spags adjusted to the sneak rolling left. The Bills coordinators? Just keep Mahomes running to the right without a stop) and the officials (I'm more peeved at the spot on Kincaid's play than the subsequent 'failed' sneak. And then we have the so-called Worthy completion).

 

Switch QBs and the Chiefs would have still won last night. Switch defenses and it would be the Bills going to the SB. If there was a switch coaches? Think the Bills would have made it. 

 

Our QB had the frickin ball in his hands to go win the game with 3 minutes left!!!!!!!!!!!  And he crapped the bed.  Stop blaming coaching.   The all time greats take that ball and win the game.   Switch QBs and the Bills likely are going to the Super Bowl.  You know why because when Mahomes is blitzed he climbs the pocket then moves laterally to buy time.   Our QB decided to roll right into the blitz and heave the ball back over his body.   

[Rich Stadium Original]

Yes, Mahommes is a good quarterback, but nothing really jumped out at me from his game last night.  He threw easy, short passes to guys that were mostly wide open and had big yards after catch. Not much pressure at all in the pocket

When he scrambled, or had designed runs, there was NO ONE on the Bills side within 15 yards until he was well downfield.

Probably his best throw was a back shoulder down the sidelines where his receiver was out of bounds.

I dare say if the Chiefs defense had played as bad as the Bills defense, Allen would have had a much different outcome

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Some people are never going to get it. Jeremy white just going on about the last drive with Allen. We gave up 32 ***** points to a team that never scores. It’s the DEFENSE. It’s been for 6 years. Wake the ***** up! We scored 29 on that team in arrowhead. It’s the DEFENSE. They don’t stop anyone 

[UKBillFan]

8 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

yet their vaunted D gave up 29 points, and probably 36 if Kincaid catches that ball. Despite all the money and draft capital and coaching they spend on D, they only win due to their QB.

 

Their QB who hasn't seen his team score 30 or more all season until McDermott's wondrous defense came to town. Their QB who fumbled the ball under no pressure too, and also took an almost unforgivable sack in the red zone which cost his team the chance of a TD to extent their lead.

 

Mahomes is great, there is no doubt about it. But last night's result wasn't down to the QBs. It was down to coaching, the respective defenses at the death and, as always, some interesting calls from those in stripes.

[RiotAct]

5 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

Our QB had the frickin ball in his hands to go win the game with 3 minutes left!!!!!!!!!!!  And he crapped the bed.  Stop blaming coaching.   The all time greats take that ball and win the game.   Switch QBs and the Bills likely are going to the Super Bowl.  You know why because when Mahomes is blitzed he climbs the pocket then moves laterally to buy time.   Our QB decided to roll right into the blitz and heave the ball back over his body.   

I’d say the O-Line and Kincaid crapped the bed, personally.

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

Our QB had the frickin ball in his hands to go win the game with 3 minutes left!!!!!!!!!!!  And he crapped the bed.  Stop blaming coaching.   The all time greats take that ball and win the game.   Switch QBs and the Bills likely are going to the Super Bowl.  You know why because when Mahomes is blitzed he climbs the pocket then moves laterally to buy time.   Our QB decided to roll right into the blitz and heave the ball back over his body.   

 

Bull. Your hatred of Josh is blinding you. Switch QBs and the result would be the same. There was not that much of a difference in quality. If Kincaid caught the ball - as he should have done - we'd be talking about what a great play it was. Look at Worthy on that incompletion/interception/questionable call. That could have easily gone differently but someone else made a play for Mahomes. Someone else helped him out. That doesn't happen for Josh. In terms of receivers, he has to practically do it all himself.

 

And where was Cook? Where was the help from the run game? Why did coaching have the offense come out passing instead of offering easy passes and runs to ease them into the game - see the Chiefs first drive? Why did the Bills continue going with the sneaks when they weren't working? If you want to whine about someone crapping the bed look at Brady.

 

Everyone at the Bills could take some blame for last night. But Josh should be at the bottom, or near the bottom of the list.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I haven’t seen 5 Qb sneaks get stopped in football combined all year we had like 5 in a row stopped. How is this even possible? We are the only team anywhere that loses in BS ways like this. Can’t run the most unstoppable play in the game.

[waterglass]

For anyone here to blame #17 for the loss is in my opinion ; "out there".

 

Amari Cooper has the speed of a cement truck. Didnt Beane and his scouts see that on 2024 game film? Golden Wheels Miller isnt his fault. He got injured and is forever toast. The ways the referees "steer" games is also noteworthy. I know the tricks as one uncle decades ago in the rockpile days was a Bills  Chain Ganger and he showed us how they give and take with the chains. Now its happening on the field with absolute intensional spots by the referees. Especially that last play where one official marks the first down yet hes overuled by another further away? Anyone who cant see it really needs to look at film and watch as its quite obvious. Sometimes the Bills get hosed by the yard. 

 

But this is entertainment so the league can legally fix a game. 

 

At issue is dumb and dumber. Beane has whiffed on more draft choices along with his scouts. The trade with Kansas City in 2024 I must ask whether Beane is on the Chiefs payroll? 

 

As far as coach, hes a Rex Ryan clone. They both cant coach defense and never could as they road another mans legacy and took the glory. Sports Illistrated knows all about Mcdermott and whom really did the heavy lifting in Carolina as those great players on defense were drafted before he ever showed up.  Andy Reid also saw it in Philly when he fired Mcdermott.  Mcdermott is riding Josh Allen and if Allen wasnt here coach would have been fired back in 2019. I recall how fast he wanted Tyrod out of here for the next rising son; Nate Peterman. Huh? 

 

As far as spiritual, religion and God goes he also knows you coach. So tell us how many times have you been to the Super Bowl as it will be never at the helm of the Buffao Bills.  God doesnt have your back. Just ask Kincade about that drop

 

Waterglass Out!

Edited Monday at 01:32 PM by waterglass
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[Bob in STL]

Does anyone know why Cook was not on the field for the last offensive series?  
 

He was the guy I wanted to see get the ball.  

[Bruffalo]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills seeing people trying to blame our only All-Pro talent with the loss yesterday. Did you all not see it hit Kincaid in the hands? 

 

If the argument is "he didn't completely dominate the game and play perfect, so it's his fault because we had the ball..." then you don't have much of a leg to stand on. It's excusing the play calling, it's excusing the receivers, it's excusing that absolutely atrocious excuse for a defense we had yesterday. A scapegoat is convenient, not reality. 

 

We almost won in spite of how badly the rest of the team played, and yall want to complain about Allen? The only reason why the team is relevant? Really? 

[thenorthremembers]

5 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Bull. Your hatred of Josh is blinding you. Switch QBs and the result would be the same. There was not that much of a difference in quality. If Kincaid caught the ball - as he should have done - we'd be talking about what a great play it was. Look at Worthy on that incompletion/interception/questionable call. That could have easily gone differently but someone else made a play for Mahomes. Someone else helped him out. That doesn't happen for Josh. In terms of receivers, he has to practically do it all himself.

 

And where was Cook? Where was the help from the run game? Why did coaching have the offense come out passing instead of offering easy passes and runs to ease them into the game - see the Chiefs first drive? Why did the Bills continue going with the sneaks when they weren't working? If you want to whine about someone crapping the bed look at Brady.

 

Everyone at the Bills could take some blame for last night. But Josh should be at the bottom, or near the bottom of the list.

 

Hatred of Josh Allen?   Completely wrong there.  The guy is one of my favorite players ever.  That said, my love for him as a player doesnt completely blind me to the fact that he wasnt great last night.   It also doesnt blind me to the fact that he isnt in Mahomes' league as a post season QB.   If the team gets you the ball with 3 minutes to go to score a winning touchdown, the great all time QBs do that.  Sometimes in spite of their own teams shortcomings.   Mahomes does that.  Consistently.  Josh does not. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

This guy is going to spend all morning talking about WRs. We were one of the best offenses in football again. Like every year. The only reason we got anywhere. How many years straight of watching our defense just get routinely picked apart will it take to understand? The offense is not even close to the issue. We will never win anything until this guys defense is gone. It can’t be this. His scheme is like a pre season joke. It’s way too simple. Every good QB just shreds it. This is the problem that will make everything else meaningless 

[UKBillFan]

Just now, thenorthremembers said:

 

Hatred of Josh Allen?   Completely wrong there.  The guy is one of my favorite players ever.  That said, my love for him as a player doesnt completely blind me to the fact that he wasnt great last night.   It also doesnt blind me to the fact that he isnt in Mahomes' league as a post season QB.   If the team gets you the ball with 3 minutes to go to score a winning touchdown, the great all time QBs do that.  Sometimes in spite of their own teams shortcomings.   Mahomes does that.  Consistently.  Josh does not. 

 

How did Mahomes do in his last proper possession where he really needed a TD to extend the Chiefs lead with the clock ticking?