McDermott respects Reid, but I’m not sure the feeling is mutual.

[BringBackFergy]

I saw a couple plays the past few meeting where Reid kinda “rubs it in”:

 

* Kelce lateral pass “throw back” last year around the time of the Nashville Mirace anniversary

 

* Highlighting Xavier Worthy to kind of rub salt in our wounds

 

* Other instances where he calls crazy plays just to showboat. 
 

Really hoping McDermott and Babich dial up some crazy chit that Reid won’t expect. 
 

Go Bills!!

[Don Otreply]

Just play smart and win! 
 

No silly bs, beating KC is plenty, imo,

 

GO BILLS!!!

[buffaloboyinATL]

8 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

 

* Kelce lateral pass “throw back” last year around the time of the Nashville Mirace anniversary

 

 

Go Bills!!

Yeah, that was annoying. I’m glad it failed. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

15 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

I saw a couple plays the past few meeting where Reid kinda “rubs it in”:

 

* Kelce lateral pass “throw back” last year around the time of the Nashville Mirace anniversary

 

* Highlighting Xavier Worthy to kind of rub salt in our wounds

 

* Other instances where he calls crazy plays just to showboat. 
 

Really hoping McDermott and Babich dial up some crazy chit that Reid won’t expect. 
 

Go Bills!!

The lateral pass wasn't planned. It was impromptu on Kelce's part.

 

They used Worthy the same way against a lot of teams. What "wounds"?

 

Crazy calls? They have those oddball plays in their playbook almost every week. Used mostly inside the 20. Have you never watched the Chiefs? They do this so they players get a sense of having fun. It's been talked about a ton.

 

Andy has said many times throughout the years how much he likes McDermott. And if he doesn't who cares? For 3 hours Sunday love and respect go out the window.

Edited Friday at 10:17 PM by BuffaloBillyG

[JohnNord]

13 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

I saw a couple plays the past few meeting where Reid kinda “rubs it in”:

 

* Kelce lateral pass “throw back” last year around the time of the Nashville Mirace anniversary

 

* Highlighting Xavier Worthy to kind of rub salt in our wounds

 

* Other instances where he calls crazy plays just to showboat. 
 

Really hoping McDermott and Babich dial up some crazy chit that Reid won’t expect. 
 

Go Bills!!

Nah, the laterals are Kelce’s thing as he’s done that several times over the years.  I don’t think this has anything to do with Andy.  
 

If Reid was calling those stupid “ring around the rosie” huddles, then you might have a point but I can’t remember anything like that.  
 

I remember reading that forcing the ball to Worthy was to see how he’d perform with more targets.  This is something Reid has done in the past and Worthy’s touches have ramped up since week 11.  Were they trying to rub it in?  Maybe but I don’t think it was excessive and he really didn’t impact the game much after the first half.  And they lost so who cares?

Reid was McDermott’s mentor that he groomed and hand-selected to replace the legend Jim Johnston in Philly.   I still do think there’s a lot of respect between both men, but I also believe there’s an insanely high level of competition as McDermott admitted they don’t talk much during the season.  
 

Knowing how McDermott operates, the fact that Andy fired him from what was his dream job at the time, probably will fuel the fire a bit this week.  

[Einstein]

I’ve thought this for a while.

 

Reid repeatedly throwing to Worthy last matchup wasn’t just a gameplan.

 

It was purposeful.

[JohnNord]

“The king of laterals”

 

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/mi39-m6o3J4

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

The Kelce thing is all Kelce I think lol. Idk if anyone has the heart to tell him that the lions have scored multiple lateral tds and the bills had a freakin qb do it.  The dude acts like he’s the only one capable of it

 

I might catch flak for this but to me Andy Reid is obviously a great coach yet this mythical ‘you can’t beat this guy’ status he’s obtained is a bit exaggerated imo.  He has had plenty of bizarre trick plays blown up and has made some really strange decisions where luck has bailed him out a few times this year so nobody questions them..I don’t think he was calling certain plays against us to ‘rub it in’ I think he just does odd sh*t sometimes lol

 

and if he was throwin to worthy to rub it in,why did he stop?  Kc fans feel the opposite way…they think he could’ve gone to worthy all game but is secretly hiding it for the rematch 😂

Edited Friday at 10:21 PM by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Big Turk]

Huh? What kind of nonsense is this?

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

20 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

I saw a couple plays the past few meeting where Reid kinda “rubs it in”:

 

* Kelce lateral pass “throw back” last year around the time of the Nashville Mirace anniversary

 

* Highlighting Xavier Worthy to kind of rub salt in our wounds

 

* Other instances where he calls crazy plays just to showboat. 
 

Really hoping McDermott and Babich dial up some crazy chit that Reid won’t expect. 
 

Go Bills!!

I wouldn’t say “doesn’t respect” him. But I think Reid is a jerk and is looking to stick it to people. I have noticed this in other games. He will showcase certain players against their former teams. 
 

I guess to each his own. But he strikes me as a pompous jerk, who thinks he is

smarter than everyone else, and looks for ways to rub that in.  

[Harold Jackson]

Of course he respects. He allowed him to be on his eagles staff for years and make NFL money. Same for Harbaugh.

Edited Friday at 10:25 PM by Harold Jackson

[WotAGuy]

I could definitely see a little competitive gamesmanship going on for both sides. These guys are super competitive and rubbing noses is part of it. Counter the play if you don’t like it. 

[hondo in seattle]

28 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

I saw a couple plays the past few meeting where Reid kinda “rubs it in”:

 

* Kelce lateral pass “throw back” last year around the time of the Nashville Mirace anniversary

 

* Highlighting Xavier Worthy to kind of rub salt in our wounds

 

* Other instances where he calls crazy plays just to showboat. 
 

Really hoping McDermott and Babich dial up some crazy chit that Reid won’t expect. 
 

Go Bills!!

 

Do you really believe Reid's risks losing "just to showboat" and diss McD?  

 

I believe Reid is doing whatever he can to win.  And that sometimes includes unexpected trick plays.  

 

Whether Reid respects McD or not - I don't know. 

 

Edited Friday at 10:29 PM by hondo in seattle

[beebe]

Worthy was targeted five times against the Bills. Since: He's been targeted 6 times, 7 times, 6 times, 11 times, 11 times, 9 times, and 6 times. It was literally the fewest targets Worthy has gotten since mid November. 

 

As for the Andy-McDermott thing, don't think it could be further from the truth. McDermott appeared alongside former Andy assistants John Harbaugh, Ron Rivera and Doug Pederson for an Andy puff piece TV segment, and Andy has always maintained that he did what was best for McDermott in Philly to shield him from the outside noise (Andy himself got fired by Philly two years later.) 

 

****

 

In July of 2009, he got his big break at the expense of legendary defensive coordinator Jim Johnson, who was dying of cancer. Reid named the then 35-year-old McDermott as Johnson’s replacement. A year and a half later, he fired him.

 

“Anybody who’s been fired, it’s impossible not to have a lot of emotions over it,’’ said Joe Banner, who was the Eagles’ president at the time. “Sean is a very prideful guy with a lot of confidence. It’d be crazy to think he didn’t believe in himself at the time and didn’t think Andy and the organization was making a mistake.

 

“But they both came from a place of mutual respect. Andy was invested in Sean’s future even though he was making the change. He truly believed he was going to have a great career even as he was letting him go.’’

 

Reid believed it enough to find a landing spot for McDermott before he even officially cut him loose. He called former Eagles assistant Ron Rivera, who was then the Carolina Panthers’ head coach, and recommended him for the Panthers’ vacant defensive coordinator’s job.

 

“Andy felt if Sean was in a different situation he would do great,’’ Banner said.

Edited Friday at 10:35 PM by beebe

[Beck Water]

16 minutes ago, Harold Jackson said:

Of course he respects. He allowed him to be on his eagles staff for years and make NFL money. Same for Harbaugh.

 

Well, Reid did fire McDermott.  And then hire Juan Castillo, the offensive line coach, to replace him as DC (that went about as well as one might predict lol)

 

[MJS]

McDermott started as a coach under Reid. I'm sure he has a ton of respect for McDermott.

 

You are reading into those plays in a foolish manner. None of those mean the things you say they mean.

[eball]

Ridiculous premise, Fergy…sorry, just calling it like I see it.

 

Go Bills!

 

[Beck Water]

10 minutes ago, beebe said:

As for the Andy-McDermott thing, don't think it could be further from the truth. McDermott appeared alongside former Andy assistants John Harbaugh, Ron Rivera and Doug Pederson for an Andy puff piece TV segment, and Andy has always maintained that he did what was best for McDermott in Philly to shield him from the outside noise (Andy himself got fired by Philly two years later.) 
****

 

In July of 2009, he got his big break at the expense of legendary defensive coordinator Jim Johnson, who was dying of cancer. Reid named the then 35-year-old McDermott as Johnson’s replacement. A year and a half later, he fired him.

 

“Anybody who’s been fired, it’s impossible not to have a lot of emotions over it,’’ said Joe Banner, who was the Eagles’ president at the time. “Sean is a very prideful guy with a lot of confidence. It’d be crazy to think he didn’t believe in himself at the time and didn’t think Andy and the organization was making a mistake.

 

“But they both came from a place of mutual respect. Andy was invested in Sean’s future even though he was making the change. He truly believed he was going to have a great career even as he was letting him go.’’

 

Reid believed it enough to find a landing spot for McDermott before he even officially cut him loose. He called former Eagles assistant Ron Rivera, who was then the Carolina Panthers’ head coach, and recommended him for the Panthers’ vacant defensive coordinator’s job.

 

“Andy felt if Sean was in a different situation he would do great,’’ Banner said.

 

I think there's a good bit of revisionist history in that. 

Reid was doing what he thought (rightly or wrongly) was best for the team and himself first, and thinking of what was best for McDermott very much as an afterthought.  I dunno about that phone call to Rivera and how much influence it had - "hey, I've got this great young subordinate, I'm firing his ass but I think he'd be a great hire for you" only goes so far as a job recommendation in any field.

 

Be that as it may, Reid certainly didn't tell McDermott "you suck, you can't coach, I'm kicking you to the curb".

[Low Positive]

47 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

I saw a couple plays the past few meeting where Reid kinda “rubs it in”:

 

* Kelce lateral pass “throw back” last year around the time of the Nashville Mirace anniversary

 

* Highlighting Xavier Worthy to kind of rub salt in our wounds

 

* Other instances where he calls crazy plays just to showboat. 
 

Really hoping McDermott and Babich dial up some crazy chit that Reid won’t expect. 
 

Go Bills!!

He does that against everybody. He did that against Belichick. Why is calling trick plays that work "disrespect?"

[beebe]

7 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I think there's a good bit of revisionist history in that. 

Reid was doing what he thought (rightly or wrongly) was best for the team and himself first, and thinking of what was best for McDermott very much as an afterthought.  I dunno about that phone call to Rivera and how much influence it had - "hey, I've got this great young subordinate, I'm firing his ass but I think he'd be a great hire for you" only goes so far as a job recommendation in any field.

 

The Eagles fired McDermott on Jan 15, 2011 at 5:40pm ET. 

 

The Panthers hired McDermott on Jan 17, 2011, at 5:03pm ET.

 

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Andy had something to do with him getting the job in Carolina so quickly. 

Edited Friday at 10:57 PM by beebe