DapperCam Posted Friday at 11:56 PM Posted Friday at 11:56 PM I will say that if we went for 2 in this scenario, is there any chance that the play isn’t Allen launching himself like a human torpedo into the endzone? It would be his Elway helicopter moment. 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted Saturday at 12:07 AM Posted Saturday at 12:07 AM 54 minutes ago, Process said: Go for two. Not sure I would survive Bass lining up for a got to have it end of game kick. Pre-wire the A.E.D... Give the 1st Responders a head start! 😆 1 Quote
Hermes Posted Saturday at 12:34 AM Posted Saturday at 12:34 AM I love it! Go for 2, unless you plan on losing. If you're confident enough to win in OT then you're confident enough to win in regulation 1 Quote
Governor Posted Saturday at 12:37 AM Posted Saturday at 12:37 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, SirAndrew said: That’s not the type of aggressiveness I want to see. That’s more like dumb Dan Campbell aggressiveness imo. I want to see them be aggressive in a way that means we keep our foot on the gas. I want to score every time we have the ball without thinking about the clock. McD goes to prevent the minute we get a 7 point lead. He’s never going to stop doing it. Edited Saturday at 12:37 AM by Governor 1 Quote
Einstein Posted Saturday at 12:50 AM Author Posted Saturday at 12:50 AM 53 minutes ago, DapperCam said: I will say that if we went for 2 in this scenario, is there any chance that the play isn’t Allen launching himself like a human torpedo into the endzone? It would be his Elway helicopter moment. Exactly. Plus, even if w didn’t get it, I would truly not blame McDermott for putting the game into Allen’s hands. Quote
WotAGuy Posted Saturday at 01:12 AM Posted Saturday at 01:12 AM 21 minutes ago, Einstein said: Exactly. Plus, even if w didn’t get it, I would truly not blame McDermott for putting the game into Allen’s hands. He could have done that against the Ravens but chose not to. It was the right call as it played out. Quote
stinky finger Posted Saturday at 01:30 AM Posted Saturday at 01:30 AM 2 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Depends on the situation. But in general kick it. If Ravens hadn't tried going for 2 the first time they wouldn't have needed to try it again at the end of the game (Harbaugh was too aggressive & it bit him). The situation was spelled out. 2 hours ago, Process said: Go for two. Not sure I would survive Bass lining up for a got to have it end of game kick. Bass is not the reason you go for it. You go for it because you have exactly what you need to finish them off. Frankly, I'm surprised that so many kick it. Quote
ganesh Posted Saturday at 01:37 AM Posted Saturday at 01:37 AM It all depends on the momentum at that point. If the Offense is on fire, then go for 2 and clinch the Championship. Quote
Saint Doug Posted Saturday at 01:43 AM Posted Saturday at 01:43 AM I don’t care how aggressive he is. He can run on 1st and 2nd downs and throw on 3rd down. I don’t care if it’s pretty. I just want us to win. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted Saturday at 02:01 AM Posted Saturday at 02:01 AM Typically, I would kick the XP and head to OT. However. At that point you are a yard and a half from the Super Bowl with the best football player on planet Earth running your offense. You also have James Cook who showed a real nose for the end zone. The only thing that scares me is the play call. In this situation the one thing you can't do is have Allen run. They will key in that. And don't call a read option... because Allen won't give the rock up in that situation. Would almost have to be a play where Allen rolls right and makes a play. As odd as it sounds...I look for Mack Hollins. On the flip side you have a defense that quite possibly would not be able to stop the Chiefs in OT. And you still have to hope Bass nails the XP to send it there. I'm going for two and not letting Mahomes see the field again Quote
86poker Posted Saturday at 02:19 AM Posted Saturday at 02:19 AM Forget OT Keep the ball in Josh Allen hands and go for the win 1 Quote
Old Coot Posted Saturday at 02:29 AM Posted Saturday at 02:29 AM My heart says go for it; my brain says play for OT Quote
Slack_in_MA Posted Saturday at 02:35 AM Posted Saturday at 02:35 AM Dumb poll. Ask me at the moment, so I know all the information at that time. Quote
Amaru523 Posted Saturday at 02:51 AM Posted Saturday at 02:51 AM This is one of those decisions (to go for 2) that, if it works, the coach is a genius, a hero, let's make him a statue, etc, but if it doesn't work, he's getting absolutely roasted, ripped to shreds and you all know it. 1 Quote
DapperCam Posted Saturday at 02:56 AM Posted Saturday at 02:56 AM 1 hour ago, WotAGuy said: He could have done that against the Ravens but chose not to. It was the right call as it played out. I think that situation is pretty different. If the Bills kick the FG vs the Ravens then they have to march down the entire field and score a TD and a 2 point conversion just to tie the game. After the FG, ESPN’s analytics thing put us at 95% chance to win. Kicking an XP to tie a game and go to OT would probably be ~50% chance to win. Quote
Doc Brown Posted Saturday at 03:19 AM Posted Saturday at 03:19 AM Bills are terrible in overtime. Bass isn't automatic on extra points. Go for it. Quote
WotAGuy Posted Saturday at 03:28 AM Posted Saturday at 03:28 AM 29 minutes ago, DapperCam said: I think that situation is pretty different. If the Bills kick the FG vs the Ravens then they have to march down the entire field and score a TD and a 2 point conversion just to tie the game. After the FG, ESPN’s analytics thing put us at 95% chance to win. Kicking an XP to tie a game and go to OT would probably be ~50% chance to win. But if he went for it the game was essentially over. He did that in the Chiefs game because he knew it would assure a win. But he saw Josh get stuffed against the Ravens and decided to not risk it. It’s all about the flow of the game at the time. In the Chiefs game, the Bills were doing well on both sides of the ball and he risked it. In the Ravens game, the offense and defense had struggles in the second half and he didn’t risk it. 1 Quote
DapperCam Posted Saturday at 05:35 AM Posted Saturday at 05:35 AM 2 hours ago, WotAGuy said: But if he went for it the game was essentially over. He did that in the Chiefs game because he knew it would assure a win. But he saw Josh get stuffed against the Ravens and decided to not risk it. It’s all about the flow of the game at the time. In the Chiefs game, the Bills were doing well on both sides of the ball and he risked it. In the Ravens game, the offense and defense had struggles in the second half and he didn’t risk it. There are 4 outcomes to consider: - Attempt FG and miss - Attempt FG and make it - Go for TD and make it - Go for TD and miss it The XP vs 2PT situation is only similar on the go for it and make it scenario. The other 3 possible outcomes are pretty different between the two. Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted Saturday at 05:51 AM Posted Saturday at 05:51 AM I'm generally a go for the win, it's two yards. The team is built around the offense But really depends on the game script At 27-26, that means the bills were likely getting some stops, was it a complete comeback like the chiefs only scored 7 or less points in the second half, where it was punt after punt? Or was it turnovers that got the bills back Like I see both as reasonable But I would go for two either way, josh Allen is the best player on the field put it in his hands Quote
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