Texans fire OC Slowik

[LABILLBACKER]

5 minutes ago, FireChans said:

???

 

The Texans were 19th in points and 22nd in yards.

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/htx/2024.htm

 

They were a disgusting 25th in yards per drive and 24th in points per drive. 20th on 3rd downs, and 26th in RZ.

 

They were terrible.

You're right, it clicked on post season stats. My bad.

[Low Positive]

2 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

I forgot where I heard it, but there was a podcast about the top offensive minds in the game, along with their coaching tree. Slovacks name came up, and it may have have been Simms that said it, but he said.....Slovack is an interesting guy, because when you look at him, it's hard to trace where his teachings came from. Basically he implied that Bobby only had a playback, and not a system. They said...once teams catch on to your plays, what do you do? This is what we saw happened this year. Part of it anyways. Agree that injuries and online play also hurt them, but when teams know what you're doing, it's that much harder on the oline.

That was Dorsey's problem too. There was no system, just a bunch of plays.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

His QB was struggling under pressure and reading defenses , but i guess its the OC 's fault 

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

Just now, FireChans said:

Bobby wouldn't have been fired with a disappointingly mediocre offense. He was fired because their offense was legitimately terrible.

Didn’t say it was mediocre. Look, you don’t usually  get fired when your season or performance meets or exceed expectations. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

Bobby Slowik will replace Joe Brady as he moves on to the Saints. The Texans OL was TERRIBLE and Stroud didn't handle it well at all.

 

He didn't suddenly forget how to coach... just gotta hope we can get him before Detroit if Brady leaves.

 

if McDermott thinks hes a fit then im good.

 

 

[H2o]

This move was pretty shocking to me, if for nothing else because of the injuries they had on offense. It probably makes it hard to run your offense when you lose two of your top 3 WR's. They still won their division and they were in the Chiefs game. Very surprised he is the scapegoat of some kind here. It makes me think that there must be some other friction here behind the scenes. He won't be out of work long. 

[Mat68]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

His QB was struggling under pressure and reading defenses , but i guess its the OC 's fault 

 

 

He didn't work with Stroud to change and adjust protections and hot reads.  The center and oline coach made all the protection calls. They were very average and pedestrian calls.  You have your qb make those calls so he knows where the rush is coming from so he can manipulate the pocket and play call accordingly.  You have more control of the Houston offense in Madden than Stroud had in real life.  This is why Slowik is gone.  Stroud is the franchise.  Give him tools to beat a defense and empower him with the ownership of it.  

[Beck Water]

51 minutes ago, Lost said:

 

Haven't we essentially turned allen into a Brock Purdy game manager this year?

 

Ha.  Um, No.

 

7 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

He didn't work with Stroud to change and adjust protections and hot reads.  The center and oline coach made all the protection calls. They were very average and pedestrian calls.  You have your qb make those calls so he knows where the rush is coming from so he can manipulate the pocket and play call accordingly.  You have more control of the Houston offense in Madden than Stroud had in real life.  This is why Slowik is gone.  Stroud is the franchise.  Give him tools to beat a defense and empower him with the ownership of it.  

 

Interesting perspective.  I'm interested if this is your theory or do you have some inside info and know this for fact?

Edited 4 hours ago by Beck Water

[Mat68]

6 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Ha.  Um, No.

 

 

Interesting perspective.  I'm interested if this is your theory or do you have some inside info and know this for fact?

It is in the video I posted above.  Simms has been critical of Slowik from the jump and laughed off his head coaching interviews because of this last off season.  Houston is one of a handfull of teams where the center and oline coach handle protection during the week and in games.  

1 hour ago, Mat68 said:

Simms has talked about this all year.  This is from November. 

Here is the video

[Buffalo Barbarian]

18 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

He didn't work with Stroud to change and adjust protections and hot reads.  The center and oline coach made all the protection calls. They were very average and pedestrian calls.  You have your qb make those calls so he knows where the rush is coming from so he can manipulate the pocket and play call accordingly.  You have more control of the Houston offense in Madden than Stroud had in real life.  This is why Slowik is gone.  Stroud is the franchise.  Give him tools to beat a defense and empower him with the ownership of it.  

 

Maybe Stroud was'nt capable of making those calls. No oc is trying to sabotage their own players especially the QB.

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Buffalo Barbarian

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

trent was easily my least favorite QB of the drought era (maybe ever). 

 

The play where he trotted out of bounds on 4th down way short of the sticks with the game on the line without a care in the world was the epitome of his time here. I always wondered if he casually took his helmet off and asked Chan for a mug of hot cocoa after. 

 

I think the team cut him the next week. 

Trent got the wrong end of the stick during his Buffalo years.  I really thought he had the best chance for us to get back to the playoffs.  He was an accurate passer and had the "It" factor.  Unfortunately, he had some of the worst HC and OC in the Bills history with pretty much no weapons.

[Mat68]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Maybe Stroud was'nt capable of making those calls. No oc is trying to sabotage their own players especially the QBnt

 

 

So its either 1. Stroud isn’t capable and the oline coach and OC are scape goated.  or 2.  The oc and oline coach are fired for having a basic passing scheme and protection.  Number 2 is also the weakness of the Shannahan offense in general.  Shannahan and Mcvay have some wrinkles and were on better passing staffs under Gruden and Kobicak with west coast concepts.  Slowik wouldn't come with that knowledge. 

[That's No Moon]

5 minutes ago, ganesh said:

Trent got the wrong end of the stick during his Buffalo years.  I really thought he had the best chance for us to get back to the playoffs.  He was an accurate passer and had the "It" factor.  Unfortunately, he had some of the worst HC and OC in the Bills history with pretty much no weapons.

He showed some of "it" until that fateful day in Arizona. After that? Not so much.

 

His weapons btw included the following players: Marshawn Lynch, Fred Jackson, Lee Evans, Roscoe Parrish, Stevie Johnson and Terrell Owens.

 

FWIW you don't get labeled as CPT. Checkdown by showing moxie. There's a reason Fitz is loved and Edwards isn't. Fitz didn't win any more games, but he went down swinging and wasn't afraid to put the ball into dangerous places. 

[Max Fischer]

Houston looked unprepared versus KC.

 

Repeatedly asked a (weak) TE to block George Karlaftis is nearly a fireable offense on its own. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

trent was easily my least favorite QB of the drought era (maybe ever). 

 

The play where he trotted out of bounds on 4th down way short of the sticks with the game on the line without a care in the world was the epitome of his time here. I always wondered if he casually took his helmet off and asked Chan for a mug of hot cocoa after. 

 

I think the team cut him the next week. 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201009190gnb.htm#all_pbp

 

Looks like Fitz started the next game, but i don't think they cut him right away.  

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Maybe they bring back Easterby for a prayer circle?  Guidance in selecting Slowik's replacement?

Made Russ Brandon look like a choir boy. 🤨

Edited 4 hours ago by Ridgewaycynic2013

[stuvian]

It's fascinating how you're a qb whisperer one year and a bum the next. 

I didn't watch too many of their games but for a young qb I was surprised that Stroud would stay in the pocket without capitalizing on his mobility.

They also throw to the tight end as often as lightning strikes. This I knew from having Schultz in fantasy.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

37 minutes ago, ganesh said:

Trent got the wrong end of the stick during his Buffalo years.  I really thought he had the best chance for us to get back to the playoffs.  He was an accurate passer and had the "It" factor.  Unfortunately, he had some of the worst HC and OC in the Bills history with pretty much no weapons.

You trying for this week's DC Tom award? 🤨

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, Mat68 said:

It is in the video I posted above.  Simms has been critical of Slowik from the jump and laughed off his head coaching interviews because of this last off season.  Houston is one of a handfull of teams where the center and oline coach handle protection during the week and in games.  

Here is the video

 

I could be wrong, but I think it's not uncommon for the C/Oline coach to handle protections for a young QB (rookie or 2nd year).  Pretty sure McVay did it for Goff, which led to a fall-off as they transitioned to Goff taking it over.

 

I actually think the Bills were unusual in that from the start, they expected Allen to do it - leading to an unnecessary number of sacks and QB hits his first couple years when he got it wrong.  If I'm remembering correctly Allen said in an interview that he's embarrassed now to realize how little he "understood our protections" his first year.

 

Anyway good find, Thanks! and I'll give it a listen!