pennstate10 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago A former coach on Sirius radio was saying that you need 9 "blue chip" players to win a SuperBowl. Didnt really define what blue chip was, but lets say Pro Bowl calibre. So one of the top 4 in the conference. Who are the Bill 9? Definite: Allen, Cook, Dawkins, Taron Johnson, Probably: Shakir, Rouseau, Bernard, Benford, Maybe: Spencer Brown, Oliver, Milano, Kincaid, Von Thats 9, so I guess we can win this year. THoughts? 1 Quote
DapperCam Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Kincaid and Von don't really belong there. I guess we only have 7. 2 1 1 Quote
Danger Mouse Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Spencer Brown is definitely one. His feet are incredible for a giant. 1 6 Quote
Prospector Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Danger Mouse said: Spencer Brown is definitely one. His feet are incredible for a giant. Found Rex Ryans secret account 14 1 Quote
njbuff Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Cooper is one too, even though he’s on the back of a milk carton in this offense. 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago add Brown. I’d subtract Kincaid and Von. Both too inconsistent. Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Spencer brown and Milano are both better than taron Johnson imo. I like Johnson hes good. Those other guys are great. Our entire offensive line is excellent Quote
BearNorth Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Using this year's PFF grades; Offense: Allen McGovern Kincaid [low snap count due to missing games] Cook Shakir Spencer Dion all rank in Top 32 at their positions, theoretically could have a spot on any team in the league Defense Benford Groot Oliver [Von] - again low snap count That's 9-12 who could start for any team in the league. 1 Quote
NewEra Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I think von will be added back to the list after Sundays game. He’s not a blue chip player- but I think he’s going to bring it and be a difference maker. brown is definitely a blue chip player. As is Rousseau….and Ed based on his play recently. Quote
colin Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago the giants team that won over the pats in 2011 had very few blue chip guys. they went on the road and beat san fran who had what might be the greatest (qb aside) roster i've ever seen on a football team. we have one 2nd team all pro and 2 total pro bowlers and beat a team w 9. this is a murky way of measuring a team IMO. i think you need to win match ups, but we have advanced stats that tell the story better (not completely) than some guy's opinion on some general formula. I'd say we can win the super bowl because our Run O and QB match up on everyone, and our d is willing to do enough to get our O the ball. Quote
dorquemada Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago The Bills have a higher median skill than most teams but fewer superstars. I think the Bills OL is the best in the league, as a unit. They keep getting better too, peaking at the perfect time 2 Quote
pennstate10 Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago 10 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Using this year's PFF grades; Offense: Allen McGovern Kincaid [low snap count due to missing games] Cook Shakir Spencer Dion all rank in Top 32 at their positions, theoretically could have a spot on any team in the league Defense Benford Groot Oliver [Von] - again low snap count That's 9-12 who could start for any team in the league. My list pretty well matches this The one player I missed was McGovern; somewhat ironic given where he went to school... Quote
MJS Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) I'd say: Offense: Josh Allen, Dion Dawkins, Spencer Brown, Khalil Shakir, James Cook Defense: Taron Johnson, Christian Benford, Matt Milano (if healthy), Terrel Bernard Spencer Brown should 100% be included. He has established himself as an elite level tackle in this league. Dawkins has only elevated his status as elite this year. Both of them are great. I'm a little iffy on Shakir and Bernard, but I think they both have the potential, and they both have a knack for making big plays in critical moments. Rousseau is a possibility, but he just doesn't get the sacks. Elite run defender, though. Oliver is another, but he is too streaky for me. Edited 2 hours ago by MJS Quote
Charles Romes Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I think this Bills team’s analytics department has cracked the code and has found a new way to win. Our top 3 receiving targets are bottom 12 in the league but our top 10 targets are number 1, and that’s how we stress defenses. Quote
BillytheKid Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 25 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: A former coach on Sirius radio was saying that you need 9 "blue chip" players to win a SuperBowl. Didnt really define what blue chip was, but lets say Pro Bowl calibre. So one of the top 4 in the conference. Who are the Bill 9? Definite: Allen, Cook, Dawkins, Taron Johnson, Probably: Shakir, Rouseau, Bernard, Benford, Maybe: Spencer Brown, Oliver, Milano, Kincaid, Von Thats 9, so I guess we can win this year. THoughts? I didn’t hear the interview but if he said “Blue Chip” I would assume he meant big time blue chip recruits coming out of high school. They did well and as good as they were supposed to do in college, got drafted and have been playing well enough in the NFL based on what their expectations were from coming out of high school as a 4 star or 5 star recruit. He could mean something else but that is usually the only time you hear the words “ blue chip” type players talked about. Was the former coach a college coach of NFL former coach? Quote
Danger Mouse Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Prospector said: Found Rex Ryans secret account could you explain this to me please? And I don’t mind if you’re offensive, I just don’t quite get the reference - and I’d like to! Quote
BearNorth Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, dorquemada said: I think the Bills OL is the best in the league, as a unit. They keep getting better too, peaking at the perfect time They have studs at the tackles and at center, and that means the guards nearly always have help close by. Cyborg is young, but his performance against Jones, leads me to believe he will be elite before long. Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 39 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: A former coach on Sirius radio was saying that you need 9 "blue chip" players to win a SuperBowl. Didnt really define what blue chip was, but lets say Pro Bowl calibre. So one of the top 4 in the conference. Who are the Bill 9? Definite: Allen, Cook, Dawkins, Taron Johnson, Probably: Shakir, Rouseau, Bernard, Benford, Maybe: Spencer Brown, Oliver, Milano, Kincaid, Von Thats 9, so I guess we can win this year. THoughts? Easy Allen (AP), Cook (PB), Shakir (2nd in YAC by WRs 2025), Taron Johnson (AP), Dawkins (4 time PB), Brown (1 sack allowed in 2025), Groot, Milano (AP/PB), Benford (top 5 CB according to PFF) and probably Bernard. Cooper is also a 5 time PBer. Also McGovern, Torrence and Edwards have been elite on the interior of the OL all season as well. We may have the best OL in the NFL. McGovern didn't allow a sack or a hit on Josh up the middle this season. Edited 2 hours ago by GASabresIUFan Quote
SoTier Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I give a thumbs down to the idea. For starters, a QB on the level of Allen or Mahomes counts for 2 or 3 blue chips at least. Having blue chip players on the OL and DL is probably more effective than having blue chip players scattered around the roster. Having quality backups is also really important. I think that coaching counts, too. Quote
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