VABills Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Okay here we go again. A little league team was kicked out of their league and have nowhere to play because they were beating everyone too badly. Why do we allow this stuff. People have to learn to lose and learn to win. So what if the other teams aren't as good. Someones gotta win and someones gotta lose. http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/apmetho...d=D8AVMPC00.xml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Okay here we go again. A little league team was kicked out of their league and have nowhere to play because they were beating everyone too badly. Why do we allow this stuff. People have to learn to lose and learn to win. So what if the other teams aren't as good. Someones gotta win and someones gotta lose. http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/apmetho...d=D8AVMPC00.xml 369282[/snapback] Words escape me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 oh man - can't wait till Alaska Darin gets his hands on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanone Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 The pussification of America continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Can we suspend the Patriots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Okay here we go again. A little league team was kicked out of their league and have nowhere to play because they were beating everyone too badly. Why do we allow this stuff. People have to learn to lose and learn to win. So what if the other teams aren't as good. Someones gotta win and someones gotta lose. http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/apmetho...d=D8AVMPC00.xml 369282[/snapback] Baby Jesus, Allah, and all teh other gods cry at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 It certainly sounds stupid and unfair for this team to be summarily removed from the league or pemsalized for being too good. If this is the whole story then shame on those who treated them unfairly. It would be interesting to hear from someone responsible for these actions or who has a different perspective on this story to hear their justification. Based on hearing this part of the story the actions seem outlandish. Sometime people are stupid and do things like this. other times only half or less of the story is told. it will be interesting to see what the fuller story is here. It may well validate the story presented in this article or perhaps it does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 http://www.dispatch.com/topstory.php?story...0617-D1-02.html Hit the showers, boys Youth baseball team ousted from league for being ‘too good’ Friday, June 17, 2005 Kirk D . Richards THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH No one misbehaved. No one broke any rules. But after only a few games, the Columbus Stars have been kicked out of a recreational youth baseball league in Canal Winchester. The players, ages 11 and 12, were deemed too good. On May 9, the Stars beat the Red Sox, 18-0. Two weeks later, the Stars also beat World Harvest, 13-0. But the biggest blowout occurred on May 27, when the Stars defeated Sugar Grove II, 24-0. Sugar Grove I lost to the Stars the next day, 10-2. "After hearing and seeing the scores from that group, I called up the league office and said, ‘No way are we going to play them,’ " said Terry Morris, who coaches one of three teams from Bloom-Carroll schools in Fairfield County. "I wasn’t going to subject my players to that." Other teams started complaining. And canceling. The Stars were pulled from the league schedule. The team appealed to the league’s commissioner, Joe Bernowski, to no avail. Stars coach Jerry Glick said the ouster is unjustified. He thinks his team should have been credited with wins for the forfeits. "I’ve been in amateur sports for 35 years," said Glick, 55. "This isn’t something I’ve had to deal with before." Michael Mirones, board chairman for the Canal Winchester Joint Recreation District, returned the Stars’ $150 entry fee. He said it would be wrong for other teams to bolt from the decade-old recreational league when, in his view, the Stars should play in a travel league against better teams. "They were just beating the rec kids up," Mirones said. "It’s no fun for the kids that are losing." Darla and J.R. Perry, parents of R.J., a Stars player who is 11, said the team feels wronged because it is too late to join another league. "Our boys went into this with a good attitude," Mrs. Perry said. "It’s turned into a disaster." Since April, the boys have been honing their skills on a field outside the Zion Lutheran Church on Obetz Road. They practice 2½ hours a day, four days a week. Some have been playing together for four or five years, though not the entire team. "I don’t think it’s fair," said Michael Allston, 12, a catcher and pitcher for the Stars. "We always played our best, and we were just winning games." Teammate Matthew "Boomer" Hufferd, 12, who plays second base, said he thinks overprotective adults are to blame. "If they learn at their age that they can forfeit on things they don’t want to do, it’s quitting," Hufferd said. The Stars haven’t played a league game since June 6, when they beat the Cardinals, 17-6. "One team told us they didn’t want their boys’ self-esteem battered," said Trina Cochran, mother of Mario, a Stars player who is 11. During the team’s brief stay in the Canal Winchester league, opponents complained that the players were too big for their ages. R.J. Perry is 155 pounds. Michael Allston is 5 feet 8. Mrs. Perry resorted to carrying copies of each boy’s birth certificate to games to avoid a disqualification. In addition, some accused the coach of plucking talented players from across Columbus to form an all-star team. The team then supplied addresses to the league showing that all but one of the 14 players live in the 43207 ZIP code. Kris Hutchins, coach of the Yankees in the Canal Winchester league, said the parents of his players unanimously decided not to engage such a fearsome squad. It was an issue not only of competitiveness but also of safety, Hutchins said. "We didn’t want one of our kids to get hit in the face with a ball, not being able to defend himself." The Stars would not have had a game this week, but their parents arranged a scrimmage on the West Side against Georgian Heights, which plays in another league. The teams had met earlier in the year during a preseason Teays Valley tournament. The Stars had won, 9-8. Georgian Heights Coach Ken Carius said his team, which has a 24-1 record, was eager to avenge its only loss. Players from both sides swatted liners and deep balls on Wednesday night, and defenders fielded grounders and made catches on the run. Fans leapt for joy when one of theirs got a base hit or scored. In the end, the Stars won, 7-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Back in my Little League days, the first team I was on went 0-16. I don't think we came within 10 runs of winning a game. We learned how to lose. Two years later we beat the snot out of every team in the league and won the Championship. Nowadays, people are so intent on protecting the kids, the kids grow up to be sissies (and worse). How do you penalize a team for being good? The whole point of sports is to win (and lose) and do it with some class. They have leagues now for 8 and 9 year olds where there is a pitching machine, everyone hits every inning and they do not keep score. WTMF is that all about? Why even bother? How does anyone learn anything? If the adults just left the games to the kids, crap like this wouldn't happen. If a kid stinks at baseball, teach him how to play or send him to the soccer field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJsackedagain Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Steroids!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Teammate Matthew "Boomer" Hufferd, 12, who plays second base, said he thinks overprotective adults are to blame. "If they learn at their age that they can forfeit on things they don’t want to do, it’s quitting," Hufferd said. America is in trouble when a 12 year old is wiser then the adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 I've been on both ends of this arguement, and kicking this team out does nothing...theres something very humbling about playing on a team that goes 2-12 in little league, and it teaches the losing part of the game too... so now instead of learning how to lose, these stupid a$$ parents are teaching these kids that if its too tough, quit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted June 28, 2005 Author Share Posted June 28, 2005 This is typical of corporate America. The working see the bosses making more and blame them for the demise of the company, but take no pride in just doing their jobs, and working harder to get to the top. Rather then working harder, doing a few more hours of work to get ahead, they blame the CEO's and the Japanese for all their troubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 America is in trouble when a 12 year old is wiser then the adults. 369502[/snapback] On the other hand, maybe it means there is still some hope for this country. Assuming of course the motherment crowd doesn't beat all the sense out of him over the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted June 28, 2005 Author Share Posted June 28, 2005 On the other hand, maybe it means there is still some hope for this country. Assuming of course the motherment crowd doesn't beat all the sense out of him over the next few years. 369516[/snapback] No he was just taught a lesson by the unions. If you work hard and make the other folks around you look bad, you'll get fired. We don't want success, we want complacent people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 America is in trouble when a 12 year old is wiser then the adults. 369502[/snapback] I was going to copy and paste that very same quote. I was thinking the same thing you were. No wonder this team kicks ass. Kids are not only good players but smart as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Back in my Little League days, the first team I was on went 0-16. I don't think we came within 10 runs of winning a game. We learned how to lose. Two years later we beat the snot out of every team in the league and won the Championship. Nowadays, people are so intent on protecting the kids, the kids grow up to be sissies (and worse). How do you penalize a team for being good? The whole point of sports is to win (and lose) and do it with some class. They have leagues now for 8 and 9 year olds where there is a pitching machine, everyone hits every inning and they do not keep score. WTMF is that all about? Why even bother? How does anyone learn anything? If the adults just left the games to the kids, crap like this wouldn't happen. If a kid stinks at baseball, teach him how to play or send him to the soccer field. 369405[/snapback] Exactly. I'm of the opinion that those who NEVER win as kids grow up to be more successful adults than those kids that win all the time, anyway. I never played on a winning sport team in my life, but the lessons learned in losing (mainly persistence) have paid off HUGELY in adulthood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB27 Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 What ever happened to the saying: "A quiter never wins, a winner never quits." Can you imagine where we'd be now if all the brave people who fought in WWII had been taught that winning wasn't important. I know I'll get crucified for this, but the damn liberals are killing our kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 What ever happened to the saying: "A quiter never wins, a winner never quits." Can you imagine where we'd be now if all the brave people who fought in WWII had been taught that winning wasn't important. I know I'll get crucified for this, but the damn liberals are killing our kids. 369584[/snapback] Yes, but think about how much self esteem these kids will have from never being subjected to disappointment or loss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 It's been many years since I've been a little league Mom. But as I recall, back then, teams were assembled randomly so that each team could end up with many good players, many poor players, or a healthy combination of both. Everyone played. However, I'm hearing now that recreational leagues not affiliated with Little League can make their own rules, including a coach's right to build his own team with whoever he wants, provided he sticks to the age limits. This way, a coach that has been in the system for a few years and watching the good players, can "create" a winning team and basically ensure them a championship. Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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