Khalil Mack 2025 Free Agent

[I'm Spartacus]

I would like to think we learned our lesson from the Von signing. I wouldn't want to invest big free agent bucks on anybody over 30-32 years of age, unless it's a cheap 1 year rental. Look to the draft?

[T master]

I'm pretty sure Beane and McD would much rather have a younger draft pick that would be cheaper that has the intangibles to be a really good player for a long time . I don't pay attention much to college football are there any players in the draft that the Bills could get that could be any where close to what Mack was coming out ?

[stevestojan]

23 hours ago, jaybeezee said:

Not nervous at all. This is the most confident ive ever been facing them. Yes, they aren't the team that we beat earlier in the season and the have most of their weapons on offense back healthy, but we are also different and are somewhat healthy as well. 

 

Josh and Brady just have to game plan for heavy blitzes. I would love to see a lot of play action and roll outs for Josh. 

I truly wish I had this mindset (really. It’s a compliment). All I can think about this week is how bass will miss a game winner, or the refs will throw a defensive holding call with 30 seconds left to let the chiefs win another one, or how Josh will have to go Superman and put up insane stats just to let McD do something stupid and ruin it again. You know, the standard stuff. 
 

My wife often asks if I even enjoy watching the games. I do. I look forward to them. But I can see where she’s coming from. 
 

i think decades of below average play and more importantly at least 10 soul crushing “billsy” losses have me jaded. Hell, after the onside recovery last week all I kept saying was “clean snap boys” when all we were doing was kneeling it down. 
 

I just wish I could share your optimism. It would make this whole “being a fan” thing more fun. 

[jaybeezee]

6 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

I truly wish I had this mindset (really. It’s a compliment). All I can think about this week is how bass will miss a game winner, or the refs will throw a defensive holding call with 30 seconds left to let the chiefs win another one, or how Josh will have to go Superman and put up insane stats just to let McD do something stupid and ruin it again. You know, the standard stuff. 
 

My wife often asks if I even enjoy watching the games. I do. I look forward to them. But I can see where she’s coming from. 
 

i think decades of below average play and more importantly at least 10 soul crushing “billsy” losses have me jaded. Hell, after the onside recovery last week all I kept saying was “clean snap boys” when all we were doing was kneeling it down. 
 

I just wish I could share your optimism. It would make this whole “being a fan” thing more fun. 

Good stuff! The way to get past all that is just to keep a positive mindset. Visualize us celebrating on their field and watching Mahomes pout and storm off the field, while Kelce gives Josh props and wishes us good luck in the SB.

 

Stressing it aint gonna do much for you, except stress you out bro. Keeping the positive mindset and visualizing us winning convincingly will manifest this victory.

Edited 5 hours ago by jaybeezee

[DrDawkinstein]

Maybe in a different year with a different draft class. But this is a DL-heavy draft, similar to WR last year. We should be able to get a DE, 1DT, and even a 3DT out of it.

 

Not worth overpaying another old guy.

[jaybeezee]

2 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:

I would like to think we learned our lesson from the Von signing. I wouldn't want to invest big free agent bucks on anybody over 30-32 years of age, unless it's a cheap 1 year rental. Look to the draft?

I'd take a 1-year flyer on him. I doubt he wants to play much beyond a year. I dont believe the Chargers will pay him big, so he will have to take whatever they give him, which probably wont be much more than 8mil, which i would pay to have his vet presence, as well as his productivity. Von wont be back with us and there are some prospects on the draft, but we will be taking a DT with our 1st and after that it will be CB and WR with both 2nds if we keep them, so we are looking at a 4th round project DE most likely, which is fine if we have Mack, or even better Kendricks.

[ProcessTruster]

Pretty sure Beane is still smarting from the Von Miller experiment.   

 

Don't think you'll be seeing very expensive, old shiny toys coming on board anytime soon.  

[C.Biscuit97]

Wish we could sign him now 

[Alphadawg7]

On 1/22/2025 at 9:30 AM, jaybeezee said:

I would be onboard taking him for a year. I think he has just enough left to make a difference and would be a suitable, potentially affordable replacement for Von.  This would bring his career full circle. 

 

There is your issue right there...you said a suitable replacement for Von...and sure, yeah, he probably would be a suitable replacement for an over priced, past his prime, DE who isn't impacting the games consistently or enough thanks to the inevitable loss to father time.  

 

We need to upgrade from Von, not make a lateral move to another high priced aging vet on the last year(s) of his career who also has a higher risk of injury thanks to the undefeated abilities of Father Time.  

[jaybeezee]

45 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

There is your issue right there...you said a suitable replacement for Von...and sure, yeah, he probably would be a suitable replacement for an over priced, past his prime, DE who isn't impacting the games consistently or enough thanks to the inevitable loss to father time.  

 

We need to upgrade from Von, not make a lateral move to another high priced aging vet on the last year(s) of his career who also has a higher risk of injury thanks to the undefeated abilities of Father Time.  

A vet on a 1 year deal isn't gonna kill us, especially since we won't have Von.

 

There were many on this board who were clamoring for the likes of Clowney and Houston and Ngakoue. Mack is better than all of those guys.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

On 1/22/2025 at 1:21 PM, TheBrownBear said:

Buffalo isn't home for Mack.  I don't understand why people keep thinking of him that way.  He loves LA.  If he signs anywhere, it will be with the Chargers or another West Coast team.

 

I dunno, i thought he came back to maybe try to win a single playoff game in his career.  

[Alphadawg7]

6 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

A vet on a 1 year deal isn't gonna kill us, especially since we won't have Von.

 

There were many on this board who were clamoring for the likes of Clowney and Houston and Ngakoue. Mack is better than all of those guys.

 

I hear you, but I would just like to see us go get a better solution than a 1 year aging rental who just by the sheer fact of age is a higher injury risk factor and at a declining stage of their career.

 

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be upset at Mack being signed to say a 1 year deal...just would rather see them make a splash move for a more long term piece.  If signing Mack coincides with a high draft pick at the position, then that wouldn't be so bad either.  

[BillsFanForever19]

6 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:

I would like to think we learned our lesson from the Von signing. I wouldn't want to invest big free agent bucks on anybody over 30-32 years of age, unless it's a cheap 1 year rental. Look to the draft?

 

He's going to be 34 years old and coming off a bit of a down year where whether or not he'd come back this year was a talking point.

 

This isn't a situation like Von Miller coming off Super Bowl MVP. He's not going to be league minimum or anything like that, but he's not going to be "big bucks" either.

 

And with Von not expected to be here and Dawuane Smoot a Free Agent, we'll need a couple Defensive Ends. You could Draft a guy and bring him along and bring in someone like Mack to take pressure off of Epenesa.

Edited 1 hour ago by BillsFanForever19

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I hear you, but I would just like to see us go get a better solution than a 1 year aging rental who just by the sheer fact of age is a higher injury risk factor and at a declining stage of their career.

 

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be upset at Mack being signed to say a 1 year deal...just would rather see them make a splash move for a more long term piece.  If signing Mack coincides with a high draft pick at the position, then that wouldn't be so bad either.  

Chances are that Mack will be better (in 2025) than a draft pick DE.  
 

I agree that I’d like to use a 1st or 2nd on a pass rusher.  But we’ll still need more unless Solomon makes a jump.  
 

I don’t think we’ll be investing big long term bucks on a FA DE with Rousseau extension likely going to be 22M+ but hope I’m wrong.  A one year rental plus a draft pick sounds like the plan

Edited 1 hour ago by NewEra

[Alphadawg7]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Chances are that Mack will be better (in 2025) than a draft pick DE.  
 

I agree that I’d like to use a 1st or 2nd on a pass rusher.  But we’ll still need more unless Solomon makes a jump.  
 

I don’t think we’ll be investing big long term bucks on a FA DE with Rousseau extension likely going to be 22M+ but hope I’m wrong.  A one year rental plus a draft pick sounds like the plan

 

Thats fair, but Mack will be 34 next month, meaning he is going to be on the back half of 34 during the season next year and almost 35 come playoff time next year.  Its a lot to ask to expect him to still play at a high level and also not get hurt.  Like I said, wouldn't be upset about it, but I would hope its to compliment some premium pick we invested with one of our first 3 picks in the first 2 rounds.  

 

I am also secretly hoping we make a splash move and pluck some stud in trade from a team with a new regime that is rebuilding.  

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Thats fair, but Mack will be 34 next month, meaning he is going to be on the back half of 34 during the season next year and almost 35 come playoff time next year.  Its a lot to ask to expect him to still play at a high level and also not get hurt.  Like I said, wouldn't be upset about it, but I would hope its to compliment some premium pick we invested with one of our first 3 picks in the first 2 rounds.  

 

I am also secretly hoping we make a splash move and pluck some stud in trade from a team with a new regime that is rebuilding.  

One year stop gap.  That’s going to be something we do every year.  He had 2 sacks in the playoff game vs Houston.  He’s missed like 12 games in his entire career. He’s as durable aa they come. Injury can happen to anyone.  I don’t think he’s going to command more than 10M a year but you never know.  
 

a splash move would be amazing but i really think our splash moves will be resigning our owns.  I haven’t dove into the offseason possibilities of edge rushers that may be available - anyone in mind?

[L Ron Burgundy]

Chase Young is a free agent I think.  Maybe he's worth a shot.  Otherwise draft, assuming no good edge players are released.

[DJB]

Did we not learn from Von?

 

No ill pass. 

[jaybeezee]

3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Wish we could sign him now 

We could definitely use him this Sunday! 

[Einstein's Dog]

11 minutes ago, NewEra said:

a splash move would be amazing but i really think our splash moves will be resigning our owns.  I haven’t dove into the offseason possibilities of edge rushers that may be available - anyone in mind?

Maxx Crosby, Myles Garrett, T Hendrickson, Chase Young....K Mack