Van Noy - "I've never seen them (Bills) do this as conservative they played"

[HamptonBillsfan]

3 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

Well once he is a runner ....

 But yes Maintain edge discipline and somebody please cover Kelce.

I wonder how they cover him early ? Bernard ? Johnson ?

If they’re able to limit Kelce for the first time in 4 games, it will go a long way to winning. I don’t think Mahomes trusts Brown, Smith-Shuster or even DHop downfield when he starts running around. Look at how many receptions the other receivers had against Houston.

 

[TheFunPolice]

I was surprised that the Ravens didn't run Lamar more. IMO that is the same mistake they made vs KC last year. 

 

 

[ganesh]

22 hours ago, RunTheBall said:

I haven’t read the whole thread but this idea that we went conservative in the 3rd quarter is BS. We played a tight, conservative game the whole game. That was the plan. The difference in the 3rd quarter was execution. The plays were there to be made.

 

On the first series, Kincaid was wide open and Allen threw a bad pass. Yeah, Kincaid should have caught it but that pass was ass for a guy who was WIDE OPEN

 

On the 2nd series, Allen correctly alerted to the Knox screen. Why Knox was the target IDK, but that was the alert call in the huddle. Ravens were blitzing from that side. Knox screwed it up by running inside when he had blockers to the outside. Also, no one blocked Van Noy from the opposite side of the line. Poor execution.

 

If you watched Hard Knox, the Ravens game plan was to take away the intermediate to deep passes and “plastering” the receivers on scrambles. They ran a LOT of Tampa 2 and Cover 3 (According to Marino and Cover 1) which basically doubles both your outside receivers. So where’s the beef? With the run game and short passes over the middle which is where we went.

 

It was the perfect game specific game plan and it worked. Yeah, with a few better play calls and better execution it would have been a blow out but it wasn’t. Who cares. We are in the AFC Championship game. 

 

Everyone saying “we need to open it up” doesn’t understand the offensive philosophy. You take what the defense gives you. If KC loads the box you can bet we will look to throw it more. 

 

If we needed to, Josh would have opened it up against the Ravens. He never needed to because we were playing ball control especially in the 4th with a lead. Yeah, it got too close for comfort but we were playing probably the most talented team in the AFC who was peaking at the right time and we won.

 

The biggest difference from last year to this year is that we are having an awesome stable of RBs who can rush as well as catch the ball and take it upfield.   Cook, Davis and Johnson have been terrific and it has made a huge difference.  Go Bills !!!

[Malazan]

37 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

I was surprised that the Ravens didn't run Lamar more. IMO that is the same mistake they made vs KC last year.

 

Ravens fans are convinced he was injured to the point that the Ravens didn't run him to prevent further issues. Seems dubious to me, but they seem to have convinced themselves of it.

[SoTier]

3 hours ago, ganesh said:

The biggest difference from last year to this year is that we are having an awesome stable of RBs who can rush as well as catch the ball and take it upfield.   Cook, Davis and Johnson have been terrific and it has made a huge difference.  Go Bills !!!

 

The OL is significantly better, too, in both pass pro and run blocking.  McGovern at C is better than Morse, and Brown has developed into a stud at RT. 

 

In listening to the media, it seems that most analysts haven't even considered the Bills running game being a weapon at all.   If they could run against the Ravens, they can probably run against the Chiefs unless Spagnulo is willing to sell out to stop the run.

[Kelly to Allen]

5 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

I was surprised that the Ravens didn't run Lamar more. IMO that is the same mistake they made vs KC last year. 

 

 

They never learn. 

 

Henry was getting destroyed in the first half. 8 carries for 21 yds. They just randomly decided to not run Lamar and I just don't get it 

 

 

[BigAl2526]

I think it was a strategy Brady cooked up specifically for the Baltimore game based on what the Bills experienced during the regular season game versus the Ravens plus the weather conditions.  I don't expect the Bills to go crazy on offense versus the Chiefs.  I do expect more in the way of balance.  I think Josh will get the ball to some receivers who haven't seen much action lately.

[ganesh]

12 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

The OL is significantly better, too, in both pass pro and run blocking.  McGovern at C is better than Morse, and Brown has developed into a stud at RT. 

 

In listening to the media, it seems that most analysts haven't even considered the Bills running game being a weapon at all.   If they could run against the Ravens, they can probably run against the Chiefs unless Spagnulo is willing to sell out to stop the run.

If they sell out to stop the run, Josh is throwing his darts down the field.  May be this is the game Cooper and Coleman have a coming out party.   Go Bills !!!

[Utah John]

The Bills had a lead at halftime and I think they just tried out the slower offense to see whether the Ravens could respond by taking the lead.  The defense made some drive-stopping plays and the Ravens never got the lead.  If the Ravens had been ore successful, I think the Bills would have gone back to the first half plan.

 

I'm actually all in favor of the Bills crossing up the opponent by changing tactics.  Most teams show you what they're going to do, and stick with it.  The Bills had a Plan 1B and the Ravens weren't able to come up with a response on the fly.

[3rdand12]

On 1/24/2025 at 3:21 PM, Mat68 said:

That was the cheese given to Allen forever.  Trying the low percentage pass deep outside the number?  Or 5-9 yards?  In the playoffs take the 5-9 if open.  Need explosives but when they are there.  Offense has been very impressive.  I dont care about a laser show.  Win the game.  Allen has that gear.  Less amount of times its needed the better.  Let a defense load the box and run blitz.  Please do.  

Have you, or anyone here noticed Josh's long passes have improved  generally ? Some real darts and soft touches to drop into the bucket.

 Josh still does those hard no arc overthrows. But thats expected.

Hope the find and or set up a few shots that put kc on their heels a bit

and then go back to the run/ screen toss  lol

Love how he and the Team have grown this years especially 

 love the bolded !

On 1/24/2025 at 5:09 PM, Malazan said:

 

Ravens fans are convinced he was injured to the point that the Ravens didn't run him to prevent further issues. Seems dubious to me, but they seem to have convinced themselves of it.

Gotta tell yourself something  lol