Van Noy - "I've never seen them (Bills) do this as conservative they played"

[3rdand12]

11 hours ago, aristocrat said:

The Ravens gameplan showed mcd finally learned to change the defense based on the team we're playing. Problem is the offense just kinda got the lead and hung on. It's time for the offense to put the pedal to the floor and just score.  This is the Mcd kitchen sink game. Throw everything at KC including the kitchen sink. 

Brady can do that.

 Make make sure its a solid and effective  toss.

 I finally trust the Coaching this year. Both sides

Biggest game EVAH !

 Players need to Stay composed.

[H2o]

21 hours ago, PoundingDog said:

Listening from the enemy side gives you more insight, especially from a guy like Van Noy who has played in AFC East against the Bills for a long time.

 

"That was the most coservative Bills team I've played against." He went on saying he does not believe that's because of talent issue.

 

I remember someone else mentioned no turnovers ,1 sack, 1 penalty, almost no negative plays. Is this the new playoff formula McDermott is subscribing to now? Maybe it explain why no more throwing the ball all over the yard where wide receivers getting little receving action. Does Allen and WRs all buy into it? I guess we will see how it goes.  

 

 

 

He (and everyone else for that matter) knows exactly what Josh was getting at with the remarks after the game. Heck, a bunch of us on here (me included) were talking about how devoid of talent our WR room was outside of Shakir. No Diggs. No Davis. No Morse. No Poyer. No Hyde. No White. A vast majority of the bobbleheads and pundits all picked someone else other than the Bills to win the division. Everyone expected us to be middling and struggle to make the Playoffs. Josh responded by having one of his best years to date, with lesser talent than before, and the machine keeps rolling. There were only a handful of people I saw giving us a chance, or daring to pick us over Baltimore. Spare me with the, "Idk what Josh was talking about," mess. 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

21 hours ago, Success said:

We can definitely open it up more, and I'd expect us to this weekend - but man, do I wish we had a true speed guy who could really stretch the field once in awhile.

 

Like Xavier Worthy per chance? 😂

[gomper]

2 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Will they? Baltimore is arguably the better team.

I think they have too. Baltimore may have a better collection of talent, but playoff-wise, KC is a way better team. 

[WideNine]

22 hours ago, Governor said:

They were playing 2 deep. You run the ball and hit underneath. We ran all over them for 3 quarters.

 

Yep.

 

We took what they were giving, did not panic or chase after the big play.

 

We did not need to. If it was not for some execution mistakes in the 3rd leading to those 2 punts we may have buried the Ravens.

 

We play this kind of mistake free football that chews up clock and the TOP, folks get to the end and are surprised we scored 30+ points.

 

Not a bad place to live as an offense, and if defenses gamble and send extra pressure we can take those bigger shots.

 

 

[VaMilBill]

22 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

The conservative offence worries me a bit. It kind of reminds me of the first 6 or so games of the season.

 

Against KC, going to have to open it up more and put the game in your superstar QBs hands

 

 

It does leave little margin for error

[The Jokeman]

44 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Like Xavier Worthy per chance? 😂

Worthy hasn't been a deep threat thus far. More of a screen guy or replacement for RB McKinnon than anything.

[Solomon Grundy]

I remember when teams used to think the way to beat the Bills was to make Josh play with patience. Don't let him have the big play. They're getting their wish now😂😂

[Sierra Foothills]

8 hours ago, NC-billsfan! said:

Van Noy is boring!

 

Hmmm... he didn't make any excuses, he didn't complain about anything and he's not yelling and screaming like most of the other idiots in the electronic media.

 

I'll take his thoughtful and measured comments every time.

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 hours ago, gomper said:

I think they have too. Baltimore may have a better collection of talent, but playoff-wise, KC is a way better team. 

I feel like I get the vibe you’re going for and don’t necessarily disagree, but Baltimore had so much talent and was on paper such a bad matchup for us that I think that trumps the whole ‘kc has that magic quality to come up with a clutch play’ thing and Baltimore was definitely the tougher game imo. 
 

does not in any way mean this game is easy though or we will definitely win or anything like that.  It could still easily go either way.  

[ColoradoBills]

8 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

 

#2) pass-pass-pass-run-pass-pass (weird screen audible)

 Not sure if the ravens baited josh into that one but it looked like Knox couldve cut it outside and didn’t 

 

 

That 2nd drive was the disappointing turning point that let the Ravens back into the game.

Bills were eating clock and if the Knox play resulted in a 1st down it could have been a long-sustained drive.

 

A TD there, leaving only a couple of minutes of so in the 3rd would have changed the game.

I do believe that was the plan.  It was a shame they couldn't do it.

 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

2 hours ago, VaMilBill said:

It does leave little margin for error

Little room for error is why the rams game even though a loss was nice to see

 

Showed that if the bills needed to start scoring fast and furious they still have it

 

Past seasons the bills only had a fastball, this season they have a fast ball, a curve ball and a change up 

[HappyDays]

This really was the most Chiefs like win of the season for us. The more I think about it, it's uncanny. Chiefs always let their opponent make a game of it. They never put their opponent away early. Their opponent might outplay them but their opponent makes big mistakes and they don't. The end of the game in particular was as Chiefs as it gets. 4th and 2 from the goal line with a chance to go up by 8, the Chiefs would kick that FG every time and put all the pressure on their opponent to execute and go win the game. Because they know their opponent very likely can't hold up under the pressure, and if they can then Mahomes will just drive down for a game winning FG. They leave themselves multiple avenues for victory and trust that one of them will come through.

 

This game was frustrating but also maybe the most impressive win of the McDermott era because it showed a championship ability that I've never seen from this team before. We beat Baltimore exactly like KC did in week 1, except this time the would-be game tying drive was quashed by a finger rather than a toe.

[Dan]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

This really was the most Chiefs like win of the season for us. The more I think about it, it's uncanny. Chiefs always let their opponent make a game of it. They never put their opponent away early. Their opponent might outplay them but their opponent makes big mistakes and they don't. The end of the game in particular was as Chiefs as it gets. 4th and 2 from the goal line with a chance to go up by 8, the Chiefs would kick that FG every time and put all the pressure on their opponent to execute and go win the game. Because they know their opponent very likely can't hold up under the pressure, and if they can then Mahomes will just drive down for a game winning FG. They leave themselves multiple avenues for victory and trust that one of them will come through.

 

This game was frustrating but also maybe the most impressive win of the McDermott era because it showed a championship ability that I've never seen from this team before. We beat Baltimore exactly like KC did in week 1, except this time the would-be game tying drive was quashed by a finger rather than a toe.

Agree with so much of this.  It was also impressive because the Ravens are such a huge mismatch for our personnel.  But the game plan was sound, varied and well executed.  

 

Hopefully they have enough wrinkles in their game plan again to keep the Chiefs similarly guessing and off balance.   

[ganesh]

5 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Like Xavier Worthy per chance? 😂

I wish the Bills had really traded up to get Brian Thomas Jr.   He is a stud.

[HappyDays]

20 minutes ago, Dan said:

It was also impressive because the Ravens are such a huge mismatch for our personnel.

 

See I never bought the mismatch thing. Everyone just looked at the stats of their run offense compared to our run defense and surmised there was an insurmountable gap there. Me, I believe run defense is about WILL from the players and INTENT from the coaches.

 

I'm now fully convinced that Oliver and DQ were dogging it a bit early in the season, saving themselves for more important games. Their will showed up in this one. You saw it on tape and Henry's stat line proves it.

 

I'm also convinced the coaching staff had the wrong game plan in week 4 - against Baltimore you have to shut down the run first and live with their production through the air. Otherwise you're on your heels the whole game. In this game the intent of the coaching staff was made clear on the very first play - 4-3 base defense and Henry was stuffed for a 1 yard gain.

 

There was never a mismatch. The players and coaches just didn't have the right formula in week 4. Thankfully they corrected it when it mattered.

 

Edited 12 hours ago by HappyDays

[Turk71]

On 1/21/2025 at 7:30 PM, Aussie Joe said:

 

Also …just heard that the last time the Chiefs turned the ball over was against us in November …. yikes ! 

Then they are overdue for a few...

[Pete]

20 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

The screen play in which Allen threw to Knox that got blown up on 3rd down….Allen audibled to that.

and Knox ran inside into traffic, instead of following the blocks, and cutting outside.  If Knox ran outside as play dictated, he would of gained 5 yards and a first down./  The check down was the correct call by Josh

[ren1701]

21 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

Running the football is not the same thing as taking your foot off the gas. If they can control the line again and be productive running the ball they need to keep doing it. They need to maintain their balance as an offense. It is the identity of the offense and when they are actually the most productive. Use the run to set up the p/a intermediate passing game and carve them up. Make the LBs and safeties make decisions on every single play. Make the DL play honest football and not just chase Allen.

 

This is the way.

I didn't say it wasn't, doesn't matter HOW you hit the gas, conservaball did not work the last time and 17 flung he rock 39 times in that game. The TOP was crazy lopsided, Cheifs had 22 min and the Bills 37 and they still equaled us in yards gained. Here is the difference between the Chiefs and the Ravens, by the time you adjust, game is over, they rarely make dumb mistakes and play sound fundamental football, like the Bills. Do whatever it takes, run it pass it - and most importantly and I say this it seems every playoffs game- SHUT DOWN KELCE 

[Dan]

8 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

See I never bought the mismatch thing. Everyone just looked at the stats of their run offense compared to our run defense and surmised there was an insurmountable gap there. Me, I believe run defense is about WILL from the players and INTENT from the coaches.

 

I'm now fully convinced that Oliver and DQ were dogging it a bit early in the season, saving themselves for more important games. Their will showed up in this one. You saw it on tape and Henry's stat line proves it.

 

I'm also convinced the coaching staff had the wrong game plan in week 4 - against Baltimore you have to shut down the run first and live with their production through the air. Otherwise you're on your heels the whole game. In this game the intent of the coaching staff was made clear on the very first play - 4-3 base defense and Henry was stuffed for a 1 yard gain.

 

There was never a mismatch. The players and coaches just didn't have the right formula in week 4. Thankfully they corrected it when it mattered.

 

I very much agree.  I just wasn’t so sure they’d play as much 4-3 and have that attitude that they needed.