The J6 Hostages Freedom Thread

[dgrochester55]

13 hours ago, 4th&long said:

You lost the right to say you back the blue. No more law and order bull *****. 

 

That it really oversimplifying the issue. My biggest problem with how the arrests were handled is that many were held without any process or trail for five years. That is not what we are supposed to do in America. Even if they are guilty and deserve a life sentence, they are still entitled to due process.

 

Believe it or not, I am not fully on board with the decision. I actually don't think that a pardon like this so quickly was wise, but I do think that anyone non-violent who was arrested has gone well past their sentence and should be let go. The rest should have gotten the five years already served off their sentences. '

 

This would have been a lot less messy if the last administration hadn't used them as political pawns and instead gave them a fair trial like every other prisoner gets.

[4th&long]

1 minute ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

That it really oversimplifying the issue. My biggest problem with how the arrests were handled is that many were held without any process or trail for five years. That is not what we are supposed to do in America. Even if they are guilty and deserve a life sentence, they are still entitled to due process.

 

Believe it or not, I am not fully on board with the decision. I actually don't think that a pardon like this so quickly was wise, but I do think that anyone non-violent who was arrested has gone well past their sentence and should be let go. The rest should have gotten the five years already served off their sentences. '

 

This would have been a lot less messy if the last administration hadn't used them as political pawns and instead gave them a fair trial like every other prisoner gets.

I'm not going to disagree with this. I don't know the inns and outs of every case? But I will admit some sentences seem excessive. For example, the guy from Rochester who was caught on video breaking a widow with the police shield got 10 years? Did he do anything else because 10 years seems like a lot for breaking a windrow. 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

7 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

I'm not going to disagree with this. I don't know the inns and outs of every case? But I will admit some sentences seem excessive. For example, the guy from Rochester who was caught on video breaking a widow with the police shield got 10 years? Did he do anything else because 10 years seems like a lot for breaking a windrow. 

Examples of excessive sentencing and over zealous pursuit of "suspects" are what many cite when the legal system is weaponized for political purposes. If this guy from Rochester broke a window at the Capitol and was a member of a protected social class or political group there's a high probability he would have received close to nothing in the form of a sentence. Recall the Portland Antifa attacking Federal property for months, the courthouse building, breaking windows, setting fires, attacking and injuring Federal officers. How many of those characters received 10 year sentences or did any hard time at all? 

 

On top of it we hear warnings from Democrats that Trump is going to weaponize the legal system against his political enemies. Like its a new concept to them. They should keep quiet, because they drew first blood and suddenly they want the fight to end because they've lost leverage over their enemies.

[LeviF]

53 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

 

Who said I was into any of that sh it for brains. 

 

This took me 15 seconds.

 

On 6/1/2024 at 8:34 AM, 4th&long said:

 

now that he has been wrongfully convicted he knows the pain of all the black people who were wrongfully convicted by DA’s who were members of the kkk? 

 

[4th&long]

24 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

This took me 15 seconds.

 

 

Who was this about? I don't recall the situation? Was the person wrongfully convicted? I'm sure it was about one individual situation. I'm not into blm, antifa, Maga, isis, proud boys, your mother. Any of it. 

36 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Now they can get back to their terrorist activities. 

Edited 5 hours ago by 4th&long

[BillsFanNC]

 

[LeviF]

4 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

Who was this about? I don't recall the situation? Was the person wrongfully convicted? I'm sure it was about one individual situation. I'm not into blm, antifa, Maga, isis, proud boys, your mother. Any of it. 

 

It's about Trump's trial so there's a decent amount of sarcasm thrown in there, but still contains a completely unexamined (and untrue) prior that helps undergird a couple of those "movements" you just mentioned.

 

Does that mean you're a full-throated supporter? No, not necessarily. You're a stranger on the internet and we all know very little about each other in real life. But uncritically swallowing the idea that blacks were wrongfully convicted by "kkk DAs" en masse demonstrates at least some ignorance-bred sympathy for their positions.

[sherpa]

1 hour ago, 4th&long said:

So I guess the documentary I watched on it lied then? I guess you know more than the former employee who worked their who was interviewed. He said he had the green light to do it, that's what the instructions were, he didn't say they would automatically do it. But as always Maga idiots know everything. 

 

I am not sure who you are calling a MAGA idiot, but if that is aimed at me, you are crazy.

Regarding Area 51, or 15 as you called it prior to calling someone an idiot, the media pukes out a lot of stuff, not all of it accurate.

 

I have a good deal of experience operating in the Nellis Operating Area, where this area is, and they would not  shoot you on site.

There are significant geographic boundaries, and you would be "encountered" and strongly assisted in turning around and getting out, but definitely not "shot on site."

 

But you saw a documentary.

[BillsFanNC]

Did they say anything in that documentary about who might have  opened the  doors at the Capitol that can only be unlocked from inside or nah?

 

 

[LeviF]

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

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[4th&long]

2 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

I am not sure who you are calling a MAGA idiot, but if that is aimed at me, you are crazy.

Regarding Area 51, or 15 as you called it prior to calling someone an idiot, the media pukes out a lot of stuff, not all of it accurate.

 

I have a good deal of experience operating in the Nellis Operating Area, where this area is, and they would not  shoot you on site.

There are significant geographic boundaries, and you would be "encountered" and strongly assisted in turning around and getting out, but definitely not "shot on site."

 

But you saw a documentary.

I'm glad you so butt hurt about my phone auto correct changing it to 15. Tells me all I need to know about you. And what you said about them being on you like white on rice wad the impression I got from the Doc, not the news. Like I said before, the guy said he had authorization to shoot, he didn't say he would automatically. I don't care about the news. 

But do me a favor and test your theory about it you will get shot. I want to know before I go there. 

[sherpa]

29 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

I'm glad you so butt hurt about my phone auto correct changing it to 15. 

 

You don't have the ability to "butt hurt" me in any way, ever.

I think you're a goof; ill informed on this particular subject, and spell correct algorithms don't change 51 to 15.

[4th&long]

1 hour ago, sherpa said:

 

You don't have the ability to "butt hurt" me in any way, ever.

I think you're a goof; ill informed on this particular subject, and spell correct algorithms don't change 51 to 15.

You are a butt hurt stupid Maga. Now your an expert on spell check? Honestly I don't care If it was my mistake or spell check. I know it's area 51 and you knew what I was talking about. And no I'm not an expert on Area 51 and never claimed to be. But straight from the Maga playboy you try to confuse the main point being talked about with bull *****. 

Someone said the 1/6 terrorists had the right to be there begat they paid the taxes. My point was we pay taxes on all govt properties. Go to the white house and break in, tell them you are going in to talk to trump, you paid your taxes. Go into your local town hall and do the same, tell them you are going to look thru the files, sit down at a desk, take a sh it on it. 

 

And again, do me a favor and test out your claim on Area 51. I need to know for a friend. 

 

[Tenhigh]

6 hours ago, 4th&long said:

So I guess the documentary I watched on it lied then? I guess you know more than the former employee who worked their who was interviewed. He said he had the green light to do it, that's what the instructions were, he didn't say they would automatically do it. But as always Maga idiots know everything. 

 

[JDHillFan]

4 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

You are a butt hurt stupid Maga. Now your an expert on spell check? Honestly I don't care If it was my mistake or spell check. I know it's area 51 and you knew what I was talking about. And no I'm not an expert on Area 51 and never claimed to be. But straight from the Maga playboy you try to confuse the main point being talked about with bull *****. 

Someone said the 1/6 terrorists had the right to be there begat they paid the taxes. My point was we pay taxes on all govt properties. Go to the white house and break in, tell them you are going in to talk to trump, you paid your taxes. Go into your local town hall and do the same, tell them you are going to look thru the files, sit down at a desk, take a sh it on it. 

 

And again, do me a favor and test out your claim on Area 51. I need to know for a friend. 

 

Now you tell us. I spent all morning at the library researching Area 15. Thanks for nothing.

[4th&long]

 

 

15 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Now you tell us. I spent all morning at the library researching Area 15. Thanks for nothing.

Now that is funny. I literally laughed out loud!