pennstate10 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago There is a really good article in The Athletic on this topic, linked in th other thread. Basically, Mahomes is a collective 32-0 when a group of 6 or 7 referees call the game. Given that Mahomes wins most of his games , the average record thinks be about 8-2 or 7-3. Mahomes is 5-4 when Clive Beckman is the ref. He’s the ref this wknd. It’s the best we could have asked for. Dorsnt mean Bills won’t be hit with bad calls, but the evidence suggests he doesn’t favor Mahomes. As opposed to Martin, KC ref this past wknd. Mahomes is 7-0 when Martin calls his games. 1 1 Quote
Charles Romes Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago If clutching and grabbing is fair game Elam must play whether or not Benford can go. You go man and rush 4/5 all day, sending extra rushers to the turnstiles at the left side of their line. 1 Quote
msw2112 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) I saw the article in the Athletic and I agree that the Bills got about as good a ref assignment as they could have hoped for. Allen's record with this ref is better than Mahomes'. The Bills have to be ready for the Chiefs DBs to be physical and also ready to give some back. Hopefully big, strong receivers like Coleman, Kincaid and Knox will be strong enough to play through the contact and make some plays. Also, Cooper is a veteran guy that should know how to deal with that type of play and still get open. A lot of Shakir's catches are behind the LOS, so he may also be able to escape the contact. With the Bills strong running game, plus the everybody eats passing offense, it will be more difficult for the Chiefs to take away the Bills receivers. It's no longer Diggs left, Diggs right, Diggs underneath, etc. with the occasional Gabe Davis mixed in, with no pre-snap motion (making the play easier to diagnose). The ball gets distributed to Cooper, Shakir, Hollins, Coleman, Samuel, Kincaid, Knox (who always plays well against KC), Ty Johnson, Davis, etc. They can't rough up all of these guys on every passing play. Cooper was quiet last week, with only 1 target that went incomplete. I think he'll make some big plays this week. Edited 10 hours ago by msw2112 Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Herc11 said: I'm hoping with the attention they got on the BS calls from the divisional game, they will over-correct to avoid the backlash. This is what I expect, they sucked last weekend so this weekend they will be better Quote
boyst Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago 19 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Flag Happy Crew but have also been Referee crew for Mahomes/Chiefs worse record/crew @ 6-5. Cletus Blakeman, what a name! https://atozsports.com/nfl/buffalo-bills-news/buffalo-bills-nfl-officiating-clete-blakeman-kansas-city-chiefs-patrick-mahomes-afc-championship-game/ @CountryCletus gonna take you down 2 Quote
The Cincinnati Kid Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago I think they need to eliminate QB protections on slides that are late and/or in traffic. And stopping just inside the chalk is absolutely bush league from Mahomes. I get it because he gets that call, but it is such a stain on the NFL that he does it and is rewarded for it. 1 Quote
Billsfanatic8989 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago I can just see it now. Chiefs have the ball. Down 30-28. 4th and 3 at midfield. 20 secobds left. Mahomes throws a 30 yard pass for Kelce that ends up out of his reach. During this time, Kelce throws the CB down. Both the CB and Kelce fall. Ref calls PI on Bills. Chiefs run it down to two seconds. Kicker hits both uprights somehow. The ball falls through. Chiefs 31-Bills 28 Just now, The Cincinnati Kid said: I think they need to eliminate QB protections on slides that are late and/or in traffic. And stopping just inside the chalk is absolutely bush league from Mahomes. I get it because he gets that call, but it is such a stain on the NFL that he does it and is rewarded for it. A LB could destroy him with a huge hit so he doesn't try it again. Would be worth the flag if it's early enough. 1 Quote
Sweats Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, Billsfanatic8989 said: I can just see it now. Chiefs have the ball. Down 30-28. 4th and 3 at midfield. 20 secobds left. Mahomes throws a 30 yard pass for Kelce that ends up out of his reach. During this time, Kelce throws the CB down. Both the CB and Kelce fall. Ref calls PI on Bills. Chiefs run it down to two seconds. Kicker hits both uprights somehow. The ball falls through. Chiefs 31-Bills 28 If that happened, i would stop watching football altogether.........i'm almost there now, by the way. 1 Quote
freddyjj Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 23 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Mahomes is 5-4 when Clive Beckman is the ref. Clete Blakeman is the ref this week and Patty is 6-5 now with him as Ref. Quote
zow2 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago I think if you gave Roger Goodell and some Park Avenue NFL Execs truth serum they probably would like to see Buffalo in the Super Bowl. Bills-Eagles or Bills-Washington would be refreshing for everyone. The ratings will be great regardless, but there is definitely some Chiefs fatigue nationally, and let's be honest if you aren't a KC fan no one gives a crap about their 3-peat. The Chiefs are currently on the longest playoff win streak (8) without missing the playoffs in NFL history. I do not believe this ref crew will get a call from the corporate office to "go easy" on KC and stick it to Buffalo. But I've said it all along, these refs are human and they tend to favor the home teams with calls or non-calls. So advantage Chiefs even if it's an unconscious bias by the refs. Quote
mjt328 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) Hope not. The NFL really needs to be careful here. I know they seem invincible when it comes to ratings, but they won't get unlimited grace with sports fans. After the nauseating New England/Tom Brady show that lasted almost two decades, most football fans I talk with are already SICK of the Chiefs (and I live in St. Louis, which is generally considered KC territory). They would rather have ANYONE ELSE go to the Super Bowl than watch another unending dynasty. Since Taylor Swift joined their team, most people are pretty suspicious of the NFL skewing things in their favor. The last thing they need is yet another officiating debacle that sends the most hated team in the league back to the big game. Especially if it's against another heavily disliked franchise like the Eagles. Edited 10 hours ago by mjt328 Quote
DJB Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Sweats said: Watch the KC film, who's the O lineman that always plays about 5' off the LOS?........he never gets called on it and it's a HUGE advantage. The announcers last weekend were mentioning it during the KC/Texans game that it was a "for sure" penalty and the guy never got called out on it.........and then i couldn't "unsee" it all game long. J Taylor their R tackle Quote
SF Bills Fan Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago It's not just the bad calls that go against the opposing team, it is the lack of holding calls on the line and in their secondary. Their secondary is handsy. If there is no call early, they know they will get away with it. If it gets called early, they know the refs are not favoring them and they are in trouble. 1 Quote
PonyBoy Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Boy 51-3 sure would nice again wouldn't it? 🤞😀 1 Quote
pigpen65 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Not concerned with the particular crew. Absolutely concerned about the game being influenced to produce a close finish like they all are. Quote
MJS Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: I think the mahomes gets all the calls is a bit overblown. I do think officiating will play a role, because it always does. Exactly this. Quote
BillsMontreal Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, Herc11 said: I'm hoping with the attention they got on the BS calls from the divisional game, they will over-correct to avoid the backlash. Agree...and i hope so..but i begin to think they dont care at all. Those calls or non-calls just totally change the outcome of a game. I hope we gonna see a real football game. Simply. 36 minutes ago, SF Bills Fan said: It's not just the bad calls that go against the opposing team, it is the lack of holding calls on the line and in their secondary. Their secondary is handsy. If there is no call early, they know they will get away with it. If it gets called early, they know the refs are not favoring them and they are in trouble. Right on. It's insane. It has to be adjust. Quote
co_springs_billsfan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, DJB said: A bit telling that they themed the graphic with the colors of a certain team... Quote
Fan boy '92 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago If the refs keep it in their pants we'll all be a lot happier. If the refs keep it in their pants we'll all be a lot happier. Quote
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