Logic Posted yesterday at 04:14 PM Posted yesterday at 04:14 PM https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/most-aggressive-coaches-of-2024 3 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted yesterday at 04:16 PM Posted yesterday at 04:16 PM McDermott has been in the top 10 of this list most years and many times much higher. He was lower last year and honestly, I think it was because he was DC. I don't think the double hatting worked at all, and it affected his overall decision making. No surprise to see him back near the top. 3 1 Quote
Process Posted yesterday at 04:18 PM Posted yesterday at 04:18 PM A surprise to no one who actually pays attention 2 6 Quote
Logic Posted yesterday at 04:19 PM Author Posted yesterday at 04:19 PM I agree with both replies thus far. Still, sadly, I fear the "McDermott is too conservative" nonsense will stick around for years to come, even though it's been proven again and again to be outdated nonsense. 5 Quote
Cray51 Posted yesterday at 04:25 PM Posted yesterday at 04:25 PM 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: McDermott has been in the top 10 of this list most years and many times much higher. He was lower last year and honestly, I think it was because he was DC. I don't think the double hatting worked at all, and it affected his overall decision making. No surprise to see him back near the top. I wonder if Sean was more confident in the defense as he was "running it" and therefore wasn't as aggressive in certain situations. Maybe some false security that his defense that he prepares and works with everyday can handle a safer offensive style. Quote
Don Otreply Posted yesterday at 04:27 PM Posted yesterday at 04:27 PM 1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said: The 2nd half of last weeks game disagrees. So the league wide stats don’t influence your thoughts at all then? You come across as being bitter about this, nuthin but luv, 😁👍 4 Quote
Lost Posted yesterday at 04:31 PM Posted yesterday at 04:31 PM 16 minutes ago, Logic said: https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/most-aggressive-coaches-of-2024 Brian Daboll out there calling plays like he still has Josh Allen 3 Quote
CapeBreton Posted yesterday at 04:31 PM Posted yesterday at 04:31 PM Interesting that Andy Reid is ranked 29th by this metric, I would have expected him to be way higher. 2 Quote
Logic Posted yesterday at 04:31 PM Author Posted yesterday at 04:31 PM 7 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: The 2nd half of last weeks game disagrees. I disagree that it disagrees. Shots were called. Guys weren't open. Josh shares blame, too. The gameplan was built with intentionality against a specific opponent, in a specific set of weather conditions. Strategically playing a certain way in certain moments of certain games does not mean that a coach is not aggressive overall. End of the day, Bills won the game. 4 4 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted yesterday at 04:48 PM Posted yesterday at 04:48 PM 17 minutes ago, Cray51 said: I wonder if Sean was more confident in the defense as he was "running it" and therefore wasn't as aggressive in certain situations. Maybe some false security that his defense that he prepares and works with everyday can handle a safer offensive style. I think it was just too much on his plate. We saw times last year where the offense was on the field and there were shots of the sideline and Sean's staring at a tablet. I think your HC needs his head up and in the game. I know lots of offensive HC's call plays but I think that's easier because those go / kick / punt decisions come on their side of the ball. They are invested in the game when they arise. Not many defensive HCs call plays successfully, even Belichick (who did it at times) had more success when he didn't. 5 of his 6 Superbowl wins in New England came when someone else was running the defense. And in the one where he was running the defense his offense could only muster 13 points. I just think it is harder to do both as a defensive guy because the key game management decisions generally come on offense. 4 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted yesterday at 04:52 PM Posted yesterday at 04:52 PM Ulbrich asking the three stooges of Downing, Hackett, and Rodgers to dial Up some 4th down magic! 1 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted yesterday at 04:53 PM Posted yesterday at 04:53 PM 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think it was just too much on his plate. We saw times last year where the offense was on the field and there were shots of the sideline and Sean's staring at a tablet. I think your HC needs his head up and in the game. I know lots of offensive HC's call plays but I think that's easier because those go / kick / punt decisions come on their side of the ball. They are invested in the game when they arise. Not many defensive HCs call plays successfully, even Belichick (who did it at times) had more success when he didn't. 5 of his 6 Superbowl wins in New England came when someone else was running the defense. And in the one where he was running the defense his offense could only muster 13 points. I just think it is harder to do both as a defensive guy because the key game management decisions generally come on offense. I also think that McD is a relatively slow processor which contributed to the issue. 1 Quote
JP51 Posted yesterday at 05:00 PM Posted yesterday at 05:00 PM Seems like he has changed a bit... its a little like Black Jack... double down when you have the advantage dont win em all but you win most over time... when you have the obvious advantage like we do in our offense... why not push it... Quote
GunnerBill Posted yesterday at 05:01 PM Posted yesterday at 05:01 PM 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I also think that McD is a relatively slow processor which contributed to the issue. Yea I agree I am not sure he is a guy who can just look up from a tablet take in down, distance, score, clock, timeouts remaining and make a 2 second decision. I don't think that is who he is. He has to process in his kind of methodical manner. 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted yesterday at 05:06 PM Posted yesterday at 05:06 PM 27 minutes ago, Lost said: Brian Daboll out there calling plays like he still has Josh Allen Are you referring to the plays called, or just his overall demeanour, similar to what he showed as Buffalo OC? 🤔😁 Quite a few YouTube videos reinforce my perception of Daboll as a rageaholic. Quote
MJS Posted yesterday at 05:07 PM Posted yesterday at 05:07 PM 32 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: Interesting that Andy Reid is ranked 29th by this metric, I would have expected him to be way higher. Reid is old school in a lot of ways. Belichick was the same way. There is actually some merit to being conservative and taking the points when you have the opportunity to, especially if you have a strong defense and a good running game, which they do. Being aggressive is NOT always good. How many times have we seen it backfire, especially for teams facing the Chiefs and the old Patriots? You also need to know the strengths and weaknesses of your team. Sometimes the analytics might say go for it, but you might not have the horses to get it done, so you shouldn't. 2 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted yesterday at 05:09 PM Posted yesterday at 05:09 PM 47 minutes ago, Logic said: I agree with both replies thus far. Still, sadly, I fear the "McDermott is too conservative" nonsense will stick around for years to come, even though it's been proven again and again to be outdated nonsense. No offense, but does anyone actually say that anymore? I can't recall reading that here or seeing it anywhere in the national media in years. I think the only place where the "conservative" label comes into play with McDermott is in regards to his defensive philosophy (base nickel) and lack of going man-to-man and jamming receivers on third downs or when attempting to stop late game comeback attempts. Quote
MJS Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said: No offense, but does anyone actually say that anymore? I can't recall reading that here or seeing it anywhere in the national media in years. I think the only place where the "conservative" label comes into play with McDermott is in regards to his defensive philosophy (base nickel) and lack of going man-to-man and jamming receivers on third downs or when attempting to stop late game comeback attempts. Fans do say that about the defense, but they don't even know what they are talking about. Basically, if the team converts, he was being too conservative. It doesn't matter what formation the defense was in, what play was called, if they blitzed or not, etc. If the offense converts, McDermott gets called conservative. It is just ignorant, honestly. And it is very similar to when he was being called conservative on offense. It just wasn't true, and it isn't now on the defensive side. The issue is the defense is not very good at stopping teams between the 20's. We don't have an elite defense anymore. 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago I have to be honest I have no idea what that tweet is saying 1 1 Quote
MJS Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: I have to be honest I have no idea what that tweet is saying If you can't understand that tweet, make sure you aren't one of those fans who criticizes offensive and defensive schemes and play calling, because that is FAR more complicated. Quote
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