Another Fan Posted yesterday at 02:47 PM Posted yesterday at 02:47 PM I mostly lurk in this section and someone mentioned this in a thread here once I believe. Anyway it’s been shown young guys aren’t doing well so to speak https://www.vox.com/the-gray-area/390781/masculinity-scott-galloway-young-men-struggling What are your thoughts? I think it’s a mix of younger guys not wanting to help themselves and what’s being taught to them in the school systems these days. 1
JDHillFan Posted yesterday at 03:48 PM Posted yesterday at 03:48 PM 54 minutes ago, Another Fan said: I mostly lurk in this section and someone mentioned this in a thread here once I believe. Anyway it’s been shown young guys aren’t doing well so to speak https://www.vox.com/the-gray-area/390781/masculinity-scott-galloway-young-men-struggling What are your thoughts? I think it’s a mix of younger guys not wanting to help themselves and what’s being taught to them in the school systems these days. I don’t think that young men in general are beaten with a sledgehammer but the “death by 1000 cuts” bit seems like a factor. From tv shows and commercials showing men to be the dunce 100% of the time, to the coining of the phrase “toxic masculinity”, to elimination of things like boys-only scouting, to a company like Gillette, a company dependent on men as customers, telling men that they have to do better there’s a lot of negative messaging. When you get a look at some of the downright bizarre stuff showing up in elementary schools, it’s impossible to argue your point about school systems. 1 1
BuffaloBill Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, Another Fan said: I mostly lurk in this section and someone mentioned this in a thread here once I believe. Anyway it’s been shown young guys aren’t doing well so to speak https://www.vox.com/the-gray-area/390781/masculinity-scott-galloway-young-men-struggling What are your thoughts? I think it’s a mix of younger guys not wanting to help themselves and what’s being taught to them in the school systems these days. Hard to say the precise reasons behind the theme but the data is telling. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago Video game addiction. Seriously, that's my #1 reason for why boys are falling behind.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 12 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Video game addiction. Seriously, that's my #1 reason for why boys are falling behind. This is absolutely nonsense.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, Another Fan said: I mostly lurk in this section and someone mentioned this in a thread here once I believe. Anyway it’s been shown young guys aren’t doing well so to speak https://www.vox.com/the-gray-area/390781/masculinity-scott-galloway-young-men-struggling What are your thoughts? I think it’s a mix of younger guys not wanting to help themselves and what’s being taught to them in the school systems these days. I think when you look at the big picture, young men are being relegated to second class citizenship. Issues like 'toxic masculinity', societal trends toward demonizing males and empowering females, and the overall addiction to victimization all contribute to the challenge. I do agree with @The Frankish Reich that video games are purposely addictive and contributing to the problem. To clarify, btw, I have a daughter and fully support empowerment and educational initiatives for women. My main goal in life as a father was to let her know that women face challenges that men do not, but that her success was not predicated on demonizing all men. Some men, most definitely. Nice to have you here. 4 1
The Frankish Reich Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago What I saw as a dad of kids moving through middle school and teenage years: girls become addicted to social media; boys become addicted to the video game world. Of course, not all of them. But way too many. Mostly it's self-regulating - they manage to integrate social media/gaming into their lives in a way that is not damaging to their prospects. Girls seem to do better at this than boys. I don't know why, but researchers seem to think it is because social media (unlike gaming) tends to be centered around their social circles in high school rather than as a solitary activity or one that involves a network of distant gaming "friends." 2
The Frankish Reich Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago And about girls vs. boys: the work Jonathan Haidt has done about the damaging effects of social media on middle school age girls is pretty compelling. It's not a stretch to say that social media is a cause of depression/anxiety (even suicide) in girls, although somehow it doesn't impact career prospects as much as "new media" (including gaming) does for boys. Neither one is a good thing. 2 1
Another Fan Posted 22 hours ago Author Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: Video game addiction. Seriously, that's my #1 reason for why boys are falling behind. I was a kid of the 90s and video game systems then were popular with boys as well then. I still remember in middle school 3 kids that would wear Nintendo 64 shirts too school even then. At the same time though I realize in today’s world especially post Covid this stuff can be exacerbated with kids today. I see these issues boys are having going beyond video game addiction. But I definitely agree it doesn’t help. 2
Roundybout Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Teenage males are being pumped with social media algorithms that push Andrew Tate and the like on them as the ideal male form.
thenorthremembers Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago This is what happens when you make a mockery of the family and a father's role in the family. Rise in fatherless homes and a father's interest in raising their children. Add to that the prolonged adolescence of both women and men in their 30 and 40s and you have an absolute recipe for disaster. People pop out kids and rather than taking an interest in them they go on a path to "find themselves" because their marriage and kids destroyed their "identities." We live in the most self centered society in history and our kids are paying for it dearly. 6
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 16 hours ago, Roundybout said: Teenage males are being pumped with social media algorithms that push Andrew Tate and the like on them as the ideal male form. Maybe because men being told not to be men is the problem not tate. Holy *****. 1
Roundybout Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Maybe because men being told not to be men is the problem not tate. Holy *****. Andrew Tate is not a role model lmao
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Andrew Tate is not a role model lmao I'd rather be like tate, than like u. Lmao. You are such a crybaby.
Roundybout Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 16 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: I'd rather be like tate, than like u. Lmao. You are such a crybaby. You’d rather be under house arrest for sex trafficking? Odd. 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: You’d rather be under house arrest for sex trafficking? Odd. Lmao, crybaby.
Roundybout Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Lmao, crybaby. You must be an awfully lonely guy
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 18 minutes ago, Roundybout said: You must be an awfully lonely guy Not at all, at least I'm a guy. Where did your wife hide your balls?
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