The national media narrative since the Bills won

[Neo]

All four Divisional Round winners were out gained by their opponent.

 

All four Divisional Round winners won the turnover battle.

 

“The Bills didn’t win, the Ravens lost.”

[L Ron Burgundy]

Well, I don't totally agree but there's some truth to the medias opinion.   Our offense was getting get punched in the gut in the 2nd half and Baltimore only stopped themselves.   If we'd lost we'd be pissed at McD for not being more aggressive on offense.  But we won, so he was right. 

 

Now do we go with the same game plan against KC?  My guess is no but who knows?

[Utah John]

3 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

I agree the Ravens lost that game. Not saying Allen couldn't have won it but he didn't need to. 

The point is, he DID win it.  Nothing close to an INT or a fumble. Few penalties.  

 

Napoleon said the best action when your opponent is making a mistake is not to interfere.  When your opponent is turning it over and dropping passes, you just keep on keeping on, and let the other guys realize they're not the better team.

[Rubes]

4 minutes ago, Neo said:

All four Divisional Round winners were out gained by their opponent.

 

All four Divisional Round winners won the turnover battle.

 

“The Bills didn’t win, the Ravens lost.”

 

Yup. All 4 winners turned the ball over 1 time (Mahomes interception). All 4 losers turned the ball over 11 times in total.

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

12 minutes ago, folz said:

[I posted the following in the Gameday thread, but thought it might get lost in there, so figured I would repost in this thread.]

 

So, we keep hearing the better team lost. Baltimore was/is a better team than the Bills, but:

 

-Head-to-Head: 1-1

-Record: Buffalo 13-4, Balt 12-5 (plus we purposefully pooched the last game of the year vs. the Pats---could have had two wins on Balt)

-AFC seeding: Buffalo #2; Baltimore #3 

-We scored more points than Baltimore this year (only by 7, but still)

-Conversely, their defense only allowed 7 points fewer than the Bills defense on the year

-So, the teams are tied in point differential on the year

-The two teams scored the same number of TDs on the year

 

That's about as evenly matched as two teams could get (with a slight edge to the Bills based on record and seeding), but then there is this too :

 

-We had a +24 turnover ratio, the Ravens had a +6 turnover ratio (not surprising this was the difference in the game as it's one of the only stats with a major advantage to either team).

 

-Josh Allen > Lamar Jackson

 

Buffalo: Two best wins: KC (15-2), Detroit (15-2)

              Two worst losses (not counting week 17): Hoston (10-7, div winner, lost div round playoffs); Rams (10-7, div winner, lost division round of playoffs)

 

Baltimore: Two best wins: Buffalo (13-4), Washington (12-5)

                  Two worst losses: Las Vegas (4-13), Cleveland (3-14)

 

The only place the Ravens had it over the Bills this year was total yards. They had 1,119 yards more than us on the year (or 65.8 yards per game). But all of those extra yards did not equate to more points or more wins than the Bills (again, the Bills turnover prowess is probably the reason for that---giving our offense more short fields). And more yards than the Bills in the playoff game didn't help them advance either, did it?.

 

So, how is Baltimore the better team again? What metric are people using? Just total yards without looking at any other stat? Or is it just the popularity contest known as Pro Bowl voting?

Talent.  All pro players.  plus don't forget the Ravens had a tougher schedule.   Their division is good, ours is crap.  

 

I'm not saying I agree, just what they are basing their info on imo.

[ExiledInIllinois]

Sims is speaking out.

 

NOT a good through by Lamont.  He's making $55 million do NOT make a bad throw.

 

 

[billsbackto81]

3 hours ago, Brand J said:

If we scored that TD to go up 31-19 there’s no way they could say the Ravens lost the game more than the Bills won it. Also, the offensive output would’ve been quite different if Brady and co didn’t have the 21-10 lead. That was my only concern, how they turtled up in the 3rd.

Well put my man. People forget if the Bills didn't get jobbed on that phantom hold and if they didn't as you said "turtled up" on the 2nd and Goal and settled for the FG all that followed wouldn't have meant squat.

[Utah John]

5 minutes ago, Rubes said:

 

Yup. All 4 winners turned the ball over 1 time (Mahomes interception). All 4 losers turned the ball over 11 times in total.

 

Please refresh my memory.  When did the Bills turn the ball over?

[Rubes]

Just now, Utah John said:

Please refresh my memory.  When did the Bills turn the ball over?

 

All 4 winners combined had 1 turnover total.

 

[Utah John]

4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Sims is speaking out.

 

NOT a good through by Lamont.  He's making $55 million do NOT make a bad throw.

 

 

Lamar at his post game press conference said that on that throw he just threw a second too early and didn't have time to check where the safety was.  Yep.  And the reason he didn't have that second was because Milano was blitzing him and closing in.  That INT was due to Milano. So glad he's back!

2 minutes ago, Rubes said:

 

All 4 winners combined had 1 turnover total.

 

Gotcha.

[hondo in seattle]

The media has a short memory.

Let's say we beat the Chiefs by 10 and then win the SB by 10.  Outside of Baltimore, everyone will be talking about how great the Bills are, and the close Ravens game will mostly be forgotten.

 

Let's say the Chiefs beat us.   No one, outside of Baltimore, will care anymore that the Ravens lost a close game to the Bills thanks to mistakes.

 

 

[Utah John]

14 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Well, I don't totally agree but there's some truth to the medias opinion.   Our offense was getting get punched in the gut in the 2nd half and Baltimore only stopped themselves.   If we'd lost we'd be pissed at McD for not being more aggressive on offense.  But we won, so he was right. 

 

Now do we go with the same game plan against KC?  My guess is no but who knows?

No reason not to use the same game plan (with updates) from when the Bills beat the Chiefs earlier.  And now Milano is back.

[L Ron Burgundy]

3 minutes ago, Utah John said:

No reason not to use the same game plan (with updates) from when the Bills beat the Chiefs earlier.  And now Milano is back.

I suspect KC will try to do what Baltimore did to us in the 2nd half yesterday.   I hope we see a more aggressive offense.  

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

27-25….Boo hoo!!!

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, mjt328 said:

When history looks back at this game

 

History won't look back at this game. We'll either win the Super Bowl or we won't. That's what history will remember.

[kitchen sink]

33 minutes ago, klos63 said:

Examples?

Go and watch anything on YouTube about the game. 

[klos63]

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/14oGJDZh5k/

 

Doesn't Cowherd know he's supposed to criticize Buffalo?

1 minute ago, kitchen sink said:

Go and watch anything on YouTube about the game. 

Watch Colin Cowherd,  Bill Cowher, RGIII...

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, klos63 said:

Not sure that is an example of the media 'mourning' the Ravens loss. 

Reid is an idiot

[CoudyBills]

3 hours ago, VW82 said:

I just think it’s funny people around these parts who in the past hand waved Bills turnovers and pointed to drops and the occasional bad play calling as a way to what if their way through convos about who was the better team/QB are now steadfast that Bills were the better team despite getting badly outplayed on both sides except for the turnovers.

 

Bills played mistake free and we won. Ultimately, we were lucky to win, and we’ll need to be much better if we want to win next week. 

Badly outplayed for 1 half. The Bills kicked the ***** out of them for a half.  I'd say that averages out, but I can math...

[90sBills]

2 hours ago, JimmyNoodles said:

Every game this weekend the losing team should have won. 

Kind of like around here after a loss.