The national media narrative since the Bills won

[Punch]

 

[ColoradoBills]

The "Media".  Why so many take them seriously is a puzzlement.

 

When I was young there was sport reporters.  They reported what happened in the game.

Today with the technology we have that is a useless profession.

 

What took their place is opinion givers.

 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

31 minutes ago, Chugga said:

Todays talking points are just like last years/this years MVP.

 

If this is how you are going to judge things moving forward then I’m 100% on board.

 

If we are going to give QBs grace for making mistakes and stop the narrative of “what have they won” to decide every argument when only one team a year can win it and we are smack dab in the middle of a dynasty.  Then I welcome this new era of sports talk and I embrace the new positivity that hosts will be bringing.

 

But something tells me that just like the MVP race, the story hasn’t actually changed.  It’s just the goal posts have moved.

 

If Allen doesn’t win the Super Bowl this year and doesn’t throw on his cape at all times I would find it terribly hard to believe that he will be given the same amount of grace I’ve seen Lamar receive today.

This is it!

[Freddie's Dead]

2 hours ago, wnyguy said:

I hear the talking heads saying the Ravens would have won had Anderson not dropped the ball. No, Ravens would have tied the game, that's all.

 

Anderson?  Forget it, he's rolling...

 

[klos63]

6 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

 

Not sure that is an example of the media 'mourning' the Ravens loss. 

[frostbitmic]

The Bills seem to feast on the disrespect the media gives them ... Bring it.

[UKBillFan]

2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Personally... I LOVE it!

 

This team plays best when they aren't getting the respect they feel they deserve. One of my concerns after this game was that now that we beat the Ravens - everyone would be talking about us as the favorite going into Arrowhead.

 

That's not what's happening. As you said, all that's being talked about today is the Ravens losing the game, how it happened, and who's to blame. And that the Chiefs are playing in the Championship game in Arrowhead and are set to possibly 3-Peat.

 

The Bills are continuing to fly under the radar and can continue to play with a chip on their shoulder.

 

 

This.

 

I didn't like Josh and McD coming out with "Everyone doubted us" yesterday. Too early. Take it to the Bowl. So I'm thankful the national media have presented something else to wind them up. This and the Chiefs basically getting a bye to the Super Bowl should be enough for this week. Then, hopefully after a victory at Arrowhead, Lamar winning MVP over Josh the night before the Super Bowl will propel Josh to even greater heights (though I will be delighted if he gets MVP too).

[Pete]

14 minutes ago, Punch said:

 

 

[27yankees]

Take it to KC, and narrative will be about the NFC East opponents Bills will face, Wow and some of these reporters weren't hold enough to wipe their own hind-parts. I live in Chiefs territory, just one before I die.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

12 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

The Bills seem to feast on the disrespect the media gives them ... Bring it.

The hype video that played before the game was amazing which included some media disrespect lol 

[26TrapDraw]

2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Is that the Ravens LOST the game. Let’s not give credit to Allen playing and the offense playing mistake free, let’s not give the Bills defense credit for forcing 3 turnovers, or for holding Henry to 84 yards. Oh yeah, and the BEST one is everyone acts like the game was going to be a Ravens win if Mark Andrews catches that 2 point conversion. People conveniently forget that Buffalo still had 1:33 left on the clock and 2 time outs in their pocket. I’m putting all of my money on Allen to generate 40 yards of offense to get into FG range with that much time. If I’m being perfectly honest, the Bills would’ve put the game out of reach long before any of that if they just snuck it in w/ Allen, but I’ve beaten that horse to death. Lamar apologists and Ravens fans just can’t control themselves. Lamar Jackson himself gave the Bills credit. Good teams create their own luck by studying film and knowing where to be along w/ fundamentals which McDermott preaches like the Bible. It wasn’t a “lucky” win nor did the Ravens shoot themselves in the foot. The Bills defense has been absolutely nasty the entire season turning the ball over. Their TO differential is ridiculous. It should be a valid concern for every team they go against. 

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Who cares what "they" are saying . guess who gets to play for the right to go to the superbowl while the team that " should of won" gets to pack their axe spray and watch on TV. F' em 

[Pete]

1 minute ago, 26TrapDraw said:

Who cares what "they" are saying . guess who gets to play for the right to go to the superbowl while the team that " should of won" gets to pack their axe spray and watch on TV. F' em 

Josh does.  It’s out there, and Josh and Bills hear noise.  But you say we can’t talk about it.  Being doubted and disrespect is a powerful motivator.

[Aussie Joe]

16 minutes ago, Pete said:

 

 

 

[MJS]

Good. I hope the coaches and players feel disrespected as well. We'll get plenty of praise when we go on to win the super bowl.

 

It's obvious that the players used the disrespect leading up to the game as motivation. I remember arguing with a poster here not long ago who claimed that isn't real. Players don't really get extra motivation from bulletin board material. Well, this is yet another example that it is real. Players DO use this stuff for fuel and it DOES impact the way they play.

Edited 7 hours ago by MJS

[jethro_tull]

2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Is that the Ravens LOST the game. Let’s not give credit to Allen playing and the offense playing mistake free, let’s not give the Bills defense credit for forcing 3 turnovers, or for holding Henry to 84 yards. Oh yeah, and the BEST one is everyone acts like the game was going to be a Ravens win if Mark Andrews catches that 2 point conversion. People conveniently forget that Buffalo still had 1:33 left on the clock and 2 time outs in their pocket. I’m putting all of my money on Allen to generate 40 yards of offense to get into FG range with that much time. If I’m being perfectly honest, the Bills would’ve put the game out of reach long before any of that if they just snuck it in w/ Allen, but I’ve beaten that horse to death. Lamar apologists and Ravens fans just can’t control themselves. Lamar Jackson himself gave the Bills credit. Good teams create their own luck by studying film and knowing where to be along w/ fundamentals which McDermott preaches like the Bible. It wasn’t a “lucky” win nor did the Ravens shoot themselves in the foot. The Bills defense has been absolutely nasty the entire season turning the ball over. Their TO differential is ridiculous. It should be a valid concern for every team they go against. 

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Eff them.  They are just sour grapes because they were wrong.  

[biggerdaddynj]

35 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

The Bills seem to feast on the disrespect the media gives them ... Bring it.

When I heard Josh’s post-game, on-field interview that’s the first thing I thought and I like us playing with that “chip on your shoulder” mentality.  Media will keep feeding them all week sucking up to KC.

Edited 7 hours ago by biggerdaddynj

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

45 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

 

Henry running into a wall the first half was a lot of the problem lol Lamar kept getting caught in obvious passing situations and Henry was 0 help in the passing game when Lamar was under pressure so it looks like they gave justice hill some looks then brought Henry back in when the bills defense wore down a bit

 

if anything I thought the ravens didn’t throw enough early 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[eball]

2 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

I agree the Ravens lost that game

 

Astutely noted, sir.  Yes, in every football game one team wins and one team loses, and by virtue of the fact Baltimore had fewer points than Buffalo they did indeed lose that game.

 

[folz]

[I posted the following in the Gameday thread, but thought it might get lost in there, so figured I would repost in this thread.]

 

So, we keep hearing the better team lost. Baltimore was/is a better team than the Bills, but:

 

-Head-to-Head: 1-1

-Record: Buffalo 13-4, Balt 12-5 (plus we purposefully pooched the last game of the year vs. the Pats---could have had two wins on Balt)

-AFC seeding: Buffalo #2; Baltimore #3 

-We scored more points than Baltimore this year (only by 7, but still)

-Conversely, their defense only allowed 7 points fewer than the Bills defense on the year

-So, the teams are tied in point differential on the year

-The two teams scored the same number of TDs on the year

 

That's about as evenly matched as two teams could get (with a slight edge to the Bills based on record and seeding), but then there is this too :

 

-We had a +24 turnover ratio, the Ravens had a +6 turnover ratio (not surprising this was the difference in the game as it's one of the only stats with a major advantage to either team).

 

-Josh Allen > Lamar Jackson

 

Buffalo: Two best wins: KC (15-2), Detroit (15-2)

              Two worst losses (not counting week 17): Hoston (10-7, div winner, lost div round playoffs); Rams (10-7, div winner, lost division round of playoffs)

 

Baltimore: Two best wins: Buffalo (13-4), Washington (12-5)

                  Two worst losses: Las Vegas (4-13), Cleveland (3-14)

 

The only place the Ravens had it over the Bills this year was total yards. They had 1,119 yards more than us on the year (or 65.8 yards per game). But all of those extra yards did not equate to more points or more wins than the Bills (again, the Bills turnover prowess is probably the reason for that---giving our offense more short fields). And more yards than the Bills in the playoff game didn't help them advance either, did it?.

 

So, how is Baltimore the better team again? What metric are people using? Just total yards without looking at any other stat? Or is it just the popularity contest known as Pro Bowl voting?

[PBF81]

3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Personally... I LOVE it!

 

This team plays best when they aren't getting the respect they feel they deserve. One of my concerns after this game was that now that we beat the Ravens - everyone would be talking about us as the favorite going into Arrowhead.

 

That's not what's happening. As you said, all that's being talked about today is the Ravens losing the game, how it happened, and who's to blame. And that the Chiefs are playing in the Championship game in Arrowhead and are set to possibly 3-Peat.

 

The Bills are continuing to fly under the radar and can continue to play with a chip on their shoulder.

 

 

Agreed, and we also tend to blow big games when we get ahead of ourselves.  

 

The way that the games have fallen here ensures that's not likely to occur.  Which is a good thing.  

 

As I said at the beginning of the season, I'd rather go 9-8, get in as a Wild Card, then run 4 straight to win a Lombardi.  Rather that than another division win and ouster in the D-Round.  

 

Who cares how, and yeah, some luck would be nice, particularly given some of the horrid luck we've had over the years, but let's just get it done!