Bears hire Ben Johnson as HC

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, mushypeaches said:

For a guy that was supposedly being super careful about the opportunity that he finally chose, it's strange that he believes his best choice would be the Bears

 

Yes, they have last year's #1 draft pick QB.  But he didn't impress me to the point that having coaching competence is going to elevate his game into the top tier.  He's more likely to bust than anything else

 

Add a healthy dose of front office dysfunction, and playing in a division where the rest of the teams made the playoffs this year?  Yikes

 

And yes, the Saints & Jets jobs are definitely worse

Jaguars is close to being similar and on par with the Bears.  But it's also in Florida

Raiders don't have a QB but I would trust Tom Brady to have a plan to find one a lot more than my chances of developing Caleb Williams

 

 Chicago was one of the better open jobs. Good defense. Good offensive weapons. And yes with good coaching Williams has a high ceiling. 

 

I don't know if I trust Brady to find a QB. Great players don't always translate to great executives. Reminds me of Elway looking at Josh Allen on the board and drafting Chubby.

[4th&long]

20 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Anything that has a higher chance of Joe Brady staying another year

The second half performance by the bills O should keep him here another year! 

Edited 4 hours ago by 4th&long

[streetkings01]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Roster wise they are gonna return a ton of guys though.

Have you seen that offense before they turned it over to Johnson? That offense was trash under Lynn and Campbell!

[stuvian]

Was expecting McCarthy in Chicago. I wonder where he goes now 

[folz]

I think Brady is around Buffalo one more year.

 

The 2nd half of our playoff game didn't help his cause. Nor did the fact that we won. Because he is off limits for at least another week, as the teams who already made the decision on their coaches are getting a jump start on hiring staffs, etc. 

 

The Bears were one of four teams that showed interest. So, they're out. The Jets have interviewed or are interviewing 17 different guys (plus I don't know Brady would accept that job---in the division, terrible ownership, big QB question/future). Joe already interviewed for Chicago, New Orleans, and Jax. He has not yet interviewed with the Jets, though he is on their list. There are also rumors that Aaron Glenn (DET DC) is the frontrunner for the Jets job. So the Jets don't really seem like a real possibility. That leaves the Jags and the Saints.

 

The Jags are also interviewing: Steve Spagnuola (KC DC), Aaron Glen (DET DC), Patrick Graham (LV DC), Liam Coen (TB OC), Robert Saleh, Brian Flores (MIN DC), Todd Monken (BAL OC)---they had also interviewed Ben Johnson (CHI) and Kellen Moore (who looks to be getting the Cowboys head post). So, Brady is currently 1 of 8 remaining candidates. Jags are moving into second round of interviews (in-person). Apparently Johnson, Coen, Glen, and Saleh were the front-runners. Sounds like the Jags do want to go with an offensive guy. So, with Johnson gone, is Liam Coen the answer? Monken and Brady are the only other candidates on the offensive side of the ball.

 

The Saints are also interviewing: Aaron Glen (DET DC), Mike Kafka (NYG OC), Anthony Weaver (MIA DC), David Shaw (former Stanford HC), Kliff Kingsbury (WAS OC), Mike McCarthy (former DAL/GB HC), and Darren Rizzi (NO interim HC). Again, they also interviewed Kellen Moore, but it looks like he's going to Dallas. So, Brady is again, 1 of 8 remaining candidates. Saints are also into second interviews and have them scheduled for Kafka, Weaver, and McCarthy.

 

I think it will be one more year (if Buffalo continues to play well again next year and especially if we make/win a SB this year) before he gets the call. 

 

 

As for the Bears, great hire. It will be interesting to see if Johnson can get Caleb Williams and the Bears offense up and running...and conversely, it will be interesting to see what happens to the Detroit offense without him. Who will they hire to replace him? Can they keep it going? Was it more Johnson than Campbell with Detroit's success, or will Detroit just keep rolling (they still have some great players on offense).

[H2o]

Good, one less opening for Brady. 

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

Have you seen that offense before they turned it over to Johnson? That offense was trash under Lynn and Campbell!

 

That offense had Sewell and St Brown as rookies but didn't have Gibbs, or LaPorta or Williams. And Goff had only just got there. 

 

Sure, a bad coaching hire can hurt a unit:  See Dorsey, Kenneth. But as long as they don't hire a dud they will keep rolling. Might not be quite as good as now but way too talented to stink.

1 minute ago, folz said:

I think Brady is around Buffalo one more year.

 

The 2nd half of our playoff game didn't help his cause. Nor did the fact that we won. Because he is off limits for at least another week, as the teams who already made the decision on their coaches are getting a jump start on hiring staffs, etc. 

 

The Bears were one of four teams that showed interest. So, they're out. The Jets have interviewed or are interviewing 17 different guys (plus I don't know Brady would accept that job---in the division, terrible ownership, big QB question/future). Joe already interviewed for Chicago, New Orleans, and Jax. He has not yet interviewed with the Jets, though he is on their list. There are also rumors that Aaron Glenn (DET DC) is the frontrunner for the Jets job. So the Jets don't really seem like a real possibility. That leaves the Jags and the Saints.

 

The Jags are also interviewing: Steve Spagnuola (KC DC), Aaron Glen (DET DC), Patrick Graham (LV DC), Liam Coen (TB OC), Robert Saleh, Brian Flores (MIN DC), Todd Monken (BAL OC)---they had also interviewed Ben Johnson (CHI) and Kellen Moore (who looks to be getting the Cowboys head post). So, Brady is currently 1 of 8 remaining candidates. Jags are moving into second round of interviews (in-person). Apparently Johnson, Coen, Glen, and Saleh were the front-runners. Sounds like the Jags do want to go with an offensive guy. So, with Johnson gone, is Liam Coen the answer? Monken and Brady are the only other candidates on the offensive side of the ball.

 

The Saints are also interviewing: Aaron Glen (DET DC), Mike Kafka (NYG OC), Anthony Weaver (MIA DC), David Shaw (former Stanford HC), Kliff Kingsbury (WAS OC), Mike McCarthy (former DAL/GB HC), and Darren Rizzi (NO interim HC). Again, they also interviewed Kellen Moore, but it looks like he's going to Dallas. So, Brady is again, 1 of 8 remaining candidates. Saints are also into second interviews and have them scheduled for Kafka, Weaver, and McCarthy.

 

I think it will be one more year (if Buffalo continues to play well again next year and especially if we make/win a SB this year) before he gets the call. 

 

 

As for the Bears, great hire. It will be interesting to see if Johnson can get Caleb Williams and the Bears offense up and running...and conversely, it will be interesting to see what happens to the Detroit offense without him. Who will they hire to replace him? Can they keep it going? Was it more Johnson than Campbell with Detroit's success, or will Detroit just keep rolling (they still have some great players on offense).

 

Brady did not in the event interview with the Jets. 

 

He took 3 interviews: Jacksonville, Chicago, New Orleans.

[H2o]

2 minutes ago, stuvian said:

Was expecting McCarthy in Chicago. I wonder where he goes now 

To the nearest Burger King so he can have it his way. 

[section122]

14 minutes ago, mushypeaches said:

For a guy that was supposedly being super careful about the opportunity that he finally chose, it's strange that he believes his best choice would be the Bears

 

Yes, they have last year's #1 draft pick QB.  But he didn't impress me to the point that having coaching competence is going to elevate his game into the top tier.  He's more likely to bust than anything else

 

Add a healthy dose of front office dysfunction, and playing in a division where the rest of the teams made the playoffs this year?  Yikes

 

And yes, the Saints & Jets jobs are definitely worse

Jaguars is close to being similar and on par with the Bears.  But it's also in Florida

Raiders don't have a QB but I would trust Tom Brady to have a plan to find one a lot more than my chances of developing Caleb Williams

 

 

I think the Bears have a nice talent as well as him having knowledge of the NFC North.  Those things will help him imo.

[streetkings01]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

That offense had Sewell and St Brown as rookies but didn't have Gibbs, or LaPorta or Williams. And Goff had only just got there. 

 

Sure, a bad coaching hire can hurt a unit:  See Dorsey, Kenneth. But as long as they don't hire a dud they will keep rolling. Might not be quite as good as now but way too talented to stink.

The issue is Goff….he isn’t a Josh Allen type QB where the coordinator doesn’t matter! Campbell has to make the right hire or that team is doomed!

[strive_for_five_guy]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

I'm 2/2 on predictions so far.

What other predictions do you have ahead?

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

The issue is Goff….he isn’t a Josh Allen type QB where the coordinator doesn’t matter! Campbell has to make the right hire or that team is doomed!

 

He isn't Josh Allen but he is better than he gets credit for. That team is too talented to be doomed. Would I be surprised if they went 10-7 next year? No. But they are not gonna be 6-11 or something like that. They are too well built, have too many good players.

4 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

What other predictions do you have ahead?

 

 

 

If I could have a do-over I'd change the Saints to McCarthy. I didn't know he'd be available at the time.

 

Cowboys weren't on my list but they will flirt with Sanders and hire Kellen Moore.

[Savage]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

I'm 2/2 on predictions so far.

Would you admit it if someone called you out otherwise?

 

[K-9]

Can’t believe he didn’t take the Jets job. 

[streetkings01]

6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He isn't Josh Allen but he is better than he gets credit for. That team is too talented to be doomed. Would I be surprised if they went 10-7 next year? No. But they are not gonna be 6-11 or something like that. They are too well built, have too many good players.

 

 

 

If I could have a do-over I'd change the Saints to McCarthy. I didn't know he'd be available at the time.

 

Cowboys weren't on my list but they will flirt with Sanders and hire Kellen Moore.

McVay gave up on him and traded him then went on to win a Super Bowl. Goff is somewhere in the middle….a good NFL QB that is dependent on a good scheme to be successful.

 

They are losing both coordinators…..you banking on Campbell getting lucky on coordinators again?

Edited 3 hours ago by streetkings01

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

26 minutes ago, stuvian said:

The Bears will never hire a coach who could overshadow their front office. 

Mike ditka enters the chat … 

[GunnerBill]

13 minutes ago, Savage said:

Would you admit it if someone called you out otherwise?

 

 

They are published on this website. I always put my stuff out there and I am always happy to be shot down if I am wrong. Vrabel to the Pats and Johnson to the Bears were both in my thread the day after black Monday. It's linked above.

14 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

McVay gave up on him and traded him then went on to win a Super Bowl. Goff is somewhere in the middle….a good NFL QB that is dependent on a good scheme to be successful.

 

They are losing both coordinators…..you banking on Campbell getting lucky on coordinators again?

 

No. I am banking on their talent. And Goff is better than you think.

15 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Can’t believe he didn’t take the Jets job. 

 

He didn't even take an interview there. He did interview in the end with the Raiders and Jags but for me he was only ever taking New England or Chicago.

[Savage]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

They are published on this website. I always put my stuff out there and I am always happy to be shot down if I am wrong. Vrabel to the Pats and Johnson to the Bears were both in my thread the day after black Monday. It's linked above.

You stand behind your z&hit, I’ll give you that.

 

I don’t always agree with you.

 

I respect you for it.

 

 

 

[TheWeatherMan]

1 hour ago, jkeerie said:

Good for them!  Not sure if he'll be a good HC but it weakens a divisional opponent.

Huh? 

[CincyBillsFan]

I long for the days when the biggest news at this time of the year for the Bills was who the new coach would be.  Now I have to go through the agony of worrying about these damn playoff games every week.  Imaginary football in January/February always worked out great for me with our new coach.