John Harbaugh Presser After the Loss - I always respected him

[freddyjj]

5 hours ago, PoundingDog said:

I give him more credit than Tomlin. I don't think he had HoF QBs winning his Superbowls. That is HARD to do in modern NFL. And He did twice.

If you are referring to Harbaugh, he has only won one after 2012 season with Flacco at QB.  Ravens also won another in 2000 with Brian Billick as Head Coach. 

[section122]

5 hours ago, PoundingDog said:

I give him more credit than Tomlin. I don't think he had HoF QBs winning his Superbowls. That is HARD to do in modern NFL. And He did twice.

 

Harbaugh has only been to and won 1 super bowl.  

 

Have no problems with his halftime or post game quotes.  His team just lost a heart breaker he needs to be positive towards his guys there.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

2 hours ago, DaVinci said:

The only thing I take exception with from his coments is " We played well eneough to Win" Evidently you did not. Did you loose by accident?

Idk who told you that happens but whoever it was, you should ask her for your money back 

[JP51]

5 hours ago, PoundingDog said:

I give him more credit than Tomlin. I don't think he had HoF QBs winning his Superbowls. That is HARD to do in modern NFL. And He did twice.

Yeah me too 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 hours ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

Every "talking head" during the game yesterday were just baffled that the Ravens went away from Henry in the 2nd half........he was just starting to roll and getting a full steam of head, carrying guys downfield on his back.

I'm sure that if the Ravens were committed to running the ball in the 2nd half, I don't think we would have stopped much.

 

Lucky for us, the Ravens went away from Henry and relied on Lamar's arm.

I disagree entirely with that talking heads assessment tbh…I think they ran too much if anything and it frequently put them off schedule. Henry had a couple decent runs in the second half but really didn’t do much with his opportunities, hill hit a big run and a lot of the damage was done in the passing game outside of that. 
 

I really think hill had a better game than Henry and should’ve taken some of Henry’s snaps honestly.  Henry just doesn’t have that short area quickness and the bills frequently got to him before he could get up to speed. 

[PoundingDog]

Thanks for correcting me of the 2000 year Ravens was under Bilick.

 

Like someone said earlier. The Ravens organization is top notch. No surprise they got a top notch coach. They drafted well in general. But QB is a different animal. A lot of luck involved. Flacco is between good to great QB. For the Bills to hit on a generational QB Josh Allen is one of those rare events.

[Mr Info]

7 hours ago, Sweats said:

........he was just starting to roll and getting a full steam of head, carrying guys downfield on his back.

Agree, do not understand why he would not want to take the sails out of their wind. 

[CSBill]

How good a coach are you when you have 9 All-Pros, -- twice as many as any other team -- and you still lose 6 games on the year?

 

Overrated???

[The Jokeman]

14 hours ago, WillSaints81 said:

Well, I think we could also acknowledge Ray Lewis here. Lewis leading that defense is why the Ravens were a SB contender and winner. Also Harbaugh had some of Bilick's team. I never understood why Bilick was fired either. His Ravens made the Steelers' lives a nightmare and it was the underpinning of the rivalry it is now. 

Billick offenses under performed with Dilfer, Grbac and Boller was a complete bust. Not a good thing for an offensive minded coach. 

[Captain Hindsight]

17 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

Harbough IMO is a very underrated coach.  He has taken that organization through various forms and they are always competitive.  A few years ago when they was talk about firing him, I thought they were crazy to even entertain the idea.

Several teams would have fired their coaches just to talk to him. Harbaurgh is great coach 

[Captain Hindsight]

15 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Did you expect “Not sure that we’ll even bother coming out of the locker room because I know we’re going to lose” 

Thats how our fans talk sometimes 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

16 hours ago, PoundingDog said:

I give him more credit than Tomlin. I don't think he had HoF QBs winning his Superbowls. That is HARD to do in modern NFL. And He did twice.

Probably not a hall of famer but Flacco is the classic guy that hung around too long so you forget that he was actually pretty darn good way back when lol his 2012 playoff run was ridiculous. 

[Sweats]

If Harbough actually committed to the run game with Henry and the RPO with LJ, there's no way we would have won that game.....i firmly believe that.

 

Harbough's biggest mistake was to abandon the run game so quickly and to not use any RPO's, which was what got them to that stage to begin with. Everyone saying how great of a coach he is, should look at how fast he turned away from what got the team to the dance in the first place and put that game squarely on LJ's shoulders........their RB's were all but unstoppable in the 2nd half and a complete bombardment of their running game would have paid dividends for them.

 

I will give credit where credit is due, however, his gameplan was shite.

[BRH]

8 minutes ago, Sweats said:

Harbough's biggest mistake was to abandon the run game so quickly and to not use any RPO's, which was what got them to that stage to begin with. Everyone saying how great of a coach he is, should look at how fast he turned away from what got the team to the dance in the first place and put that game squarely on LJ's shoulders........their RB's were all but unstoppable in the 2nd half and a complete bombardment of their running game would have paid dividends for them.

 

I think they started out committed to running Henry, and after we stuffed him a couple of times they decided to try something else for a bit.  Then Lamar threw a terrible pick and fumbled, and they went back to the run, but this time with Justice Hill as the lead back.  That loosened things up somewhat and made it possible for both Henry and Hill (why are they not called the Goodfellas?) to run downhill in the second half.  At the end they had no choice but to put the ball back in Lamar's hands.  We clearly came out in the second half expecting to go up three scores and start teeing off on the passing game, but when we ***** the bed on our first drive it looked a little like we weren't expecting them to run as much as they did.

 

The RPO abandonment may have been a concession to the weather and a fear of a fumbled exchange.  I have no doubt we were prepared for it after seeing what they did to Pittsburgh last week.

[JP51]

16 hours ago, HomeTeam said:

He's one of the best coaches in the NFL in my opinion. The whole ravens organization is class. They've done an incredible job assembling that roster. 

As much as I hate them for being so tough, one just cannot deny they have built a really good team that can kill you in multiple ways all under the cap... great management and talent e v a l there... very few misses...  and who is #53 on that team... looked like a giant winnie the pooh... I want him in the middle next year... good lord thats a big dude... runs like he is pulling a boulder behind him... but geez he is an ox LOL... 

14 hours ago, DaVinci said:

The only thing I take exception with from his coments is " We played well eneough to Win" Evidently you did not. Did you loose by accident?

I get it... I think you are right in a previous thread they were talking about how Lamar "outplayed" Josh.... of course if there werent those turnovers... well... there were... and doesnt Josh get credit in his play for not turning it over???  But I didnt take offense, I get what he was trying to say... but no I dont think it was accurate per se... 

[BearNorth]

22 minutes ago, JP51 said:

and who is #53 on that team... looked like a giant winnie the pooh... I want him in the middle next year... good lord thats a big dude... runs like he is pulling a boulder behind him... but geez he is an ox LOL... 

 

53 on the Ravens is former Patriot [2 Rings] Kyle Van Noy 6-3 255#.

 

58 is Michael Pierce 6-0 355# He might be the large human you are referring to.

[JP51]

1 minute ago, BearNorth said:

53 on the Ravens is former Patriot [2 Rings] Kyle Van Noy 6-3 255#.

 

58 is Michael Pierce 6-0 355# He might be the large human you are referring to.

Thank you!!!! I think the 8 had rolls on it and looked like a 3 to me LOL... I appreciate you!

[Sweats]

46 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

I think they started out committed to running Henry, and after we stuffed him a couple of times they decided to try something else for a bit.  Then Lamar threw a terrible pick and fumbled, and they went back to the run, but this time with Justice Hill as the lead back.  That loosened things up somewhat and made it possible for both Henry and Hill (why are they not called the Goodfellas?) to run downhill in the second half.  At the end they had no choice but to put the ball back in Lamar's hands.  We clearly came out in the second half expecting to go up three scores and start teeing off on the passing game, but when we ***** the bed on our first drive it looked a little like we weren't expecting them to run as much as they did.

 

The RPO abandonment may have been a concession to the weather and a fear of a fumbled exchange.  I have no doubt we were prepared for it after seeing what they did to Pittsburgh last week.

 

 

 

 

The RPO was my biggest concern going into this game. I knew Henry would get some yards and i knew we would focus on him, however, i am thankful that we never really had to worry about the RPO cause i don't know if we could have stopped it. If our D had to focus on stopping the King AND the RPO, i'd like to think we were ready for it, however, i'm not so sure and thank christ we never needed to find out.

 

I'm guessing the weather had something to do with it.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

33 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

53 on the Ravens is former Patriot [2 Rings] Kyle Van Noy 6-3 255#.

 

58 is Michael Pierce 6-0 355# He might be the large human you are referring to.

 

He really doesn't play that much either.  15 snaps in this one, and just 20% of snaps all year.  

[BearNorth]

3 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

He really doesn't play that much either.  15 snaps in this one, and just 20% of snaps all year.  

In the cold weather, blocking him must be like wrestling a bear.  Old adage 'Low Man Wins" 6-0 355 is a lot of Low Man. He and Torrence must be like a couple of sumo wrestlers in the trenches.