Taron is a liability!

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[LeviF]

2 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Our corners need actual safety help. They get NONE. Hamlin actually interfered with TJ off the jump on one ply. He’s absolutely horrible in coverage and it’s insane that he keeps being put in as a starter. Hyde needs to be in for 2 more games alongside Bishop if Rapp is hurt 

They also need someone on the DL to get a win inside of five seconds. 

[oldmanfan]

3 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Our corners need actual safety help. They get NONE. Hamlin actually interfered with TJ off the jump on one ply. He’s absolutely horrible in coverage and it’s insane that he keeps being put in as a starter. Hyde needs to be in for 2 more games alongside Bishop if Rapp is hurt 

Stop.  Please for the love of God please stop.  

[MikePJ76]

what is going on this morning?

 

Did the WGR callers finally get america online and find tbd or something.

 

Those damn AOL and Prodigy CD's are still causing problems.

[T master]

23 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

I know there are many who love Taron,  but imo is is a major liability. He gave up big play after big play and I am positive that Mahomes and Reid will target him.

 

It's not just this game, but there have been many this year that he gives up a big play.

 

The same could be said about Hamlin, & i saw a couple of plays last week that if Rapp just turned his head when he got beat on a few plays and looked at the players eyes to be aware to play the ball instead of the player he could have at least deflected the ball and not gotten beat .

 

Johnson is 1 of the absolute top players in the entire NFL given that determination by players and others watching him, and even the good players get out played once in a while .

 

Bruce played heel when ever he went up against Tony Boselli but he is still 1 of the best to ever play that position and is in the HOF so you might want to rethink your opinion because next week he could be the hero ... Just sayin .

 

 

[NI Bills Fan]

This team will never win anything until they get rid of Taron Johnson and Josh Allen.

[Einstein]

16 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Our corners need actual safety help. They get NONE. Hamlin actually interfered with TJ off the jump on one ply. He’s absolutely horrible in coverage and it’s insane that he keeps being put in as a starter. Hyde needs to be in for 2 more games alongside Bishop if Rapp is hurt 

This is 100% true.

Not the Hyde stuff, but the safety issues.

[colin]

johnson isn't as good as he used to be, he's older and has been hurt a few times, and his size works against him as he gets banged up over and over.  he's tough as nails tho, a gamer, and has shown in the past at least a nose for huge plays.

 

he's still a quality player.

 

the frustrating thing for me w mcd and his d is that they really rely on everyone reading and communicating and being in the right place and making plays.  it creates a lot of vulnerabilities and we've seen that basically every play.  the plus side is it has guys playing fast and hard and if they aren't gassed they have a chance to hunt for negative plays and turnovers.  

 

i love the bills and their will to win and all that, but when josh was talking about people saying that we were too small, too slow, and not talented enough there is a lot of truth to that.  our best play makers are two undersized LBs, one who is over 30 and coming off 2 really bad injuries, a small nickel corner and whoever shows up out of our way undersized 3 tech, a big and long but not sudden DE.

 

allen and the OL and cook are real ballers, and a couple of our guys on D are at least solid, but this team could really use some of the freaks that teams like baltimore have an embarrassment of.  if you throw a higgins on this o, a crosby on the D, and just not have so many jags or cast offs in a couple other areas, this team would be an all timer.

[BuffaloBillyG]

Johnson is fine. He has given up some plays this year but he's made just as many. Now at times Rasul Douglas has been an issue. 

 

On a different Taron topic, he's so good in the slot and been in the league a long time. What's he missing that prevents him from being able to play outside corner? Speed? Size?

 

I remember seeing him outside a few years back and it was a horror show.

[MiltonWaddams]

5 minutes ago, Einstein said:

This is 100% true.

Not the Hyde stuff, but the safety issues.

Hamlin and Rapp had a generally good first half…but when Rapp went down it became a lot easier for the Ravens to move the ball, even with their best 2 receivers out. I want Cole to succeed, but he has not been good this year.

[colin]

6 minutes ago, Einstein said:

This is 100% true.

Not the Hyde stuff, but the safety issues.

 

i sort of touched on it in my above blabbing post, but we play nickel D or dime about 90% of the time and we have two players in total back there who would start for other teams in the playoffs (taron and christian), and they wouldn't be top 3 (maybe taron could edge in, but he'd be 3rd at best).  

[stlbills13]

He did look worse there after the injury. But we need him on Sunday vs KC

[Augie]

38 minutes ago, KCNC said:

I strenuously object!

 

Strenuously? OK, we will have to reconsider then. 

 

I remember what life was like when Taron was out for a while. No more of that, please. 

[Ballhawk]

Have you seen our Defense when he isn't playing!

Taron is a critical piece to this Defense, I am praying he is ok for next week.

[gonzo1105]

4 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Hamlin and Rapp had a generally good first half…but when Rapp went down it became a lot easier for the Ravens to move the ball, even with their best 2 receivers out. I want Cole to succeed, but he has not been good this year.

Cole Bishop wasn’t the reason the Ravens started moving the ball in the 2nd half. They started to establish the run which began opening things up that weren’t available in the first half 

[T.E.]

Really impossible to judge anyone in our secondary since our defensive line gets no pressure and our strategy is to let the opposing offense do whatever they like and hope turnovers appear out of thin air, which, to be fair, they did yesterday.

[H2o]

4 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

I know there are many who love Taron,  but imo is is a major liability. He gave up big play after big play and I am positive that Mahomes and Reid will target him.

 

It's not just this game, but there have been many this year that he gives up a big play.

All of our players have given up big plays, missed a tackle, or something at one point or another. 8 weeks ago, people were looking to run Oliver out of town on a rail. Taron is one of the best NCB's in the league.  

[TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th]

56 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

I know there are many who love Taron,  but imo is is a major liability. He gave up big play after big play and I am positive that Mahomes and Reid will target him.

 

It's not just this game, but there have been many this year that he gives up a big play.

This is one of those WGR morning after type calls we were just talking about . 

[Bookie Man]

Lamar was crocheting a blanket back there at times. Hard to cover someone on that field surface for that long. 

[peterpan]

59 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

I know there are many who love Taron,  but imo is is a major liability. He gave up big play after big play and I am positive that Mahomes and Reid will target him.

 

It's not just this game, but there have been many this year that he gives up a big play.

Johnson is being targeted.  You are correct.  He used to make those plays.  He does play a very important and difficult position but it does seem like he’s lost a step in pass coverage