Dalton Kincaid- why so underwhelming this season?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, Bermuda Triangle said:

A mistimed leap on a pass?

An overthrown pass. Yeah.

[Einstein's Dog]

10 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

I didn't realize he was that big, but wasn't it just a rookie record for tight ends? He still hasn't even had a 100-yard game. While I know that Brown developed, I can list more of Day 1 and Day 2 picks by Beane that didn't pan out. I understand that injuries slowed him down, but he didn't have a strong start to the season, which was concerning even before he got hurt in Indy.

We’ll probably move on from Brady or Babich after we get eliminated in next year’s playoffs. It will depend on how stale the offense looks or how badly the defense gets shredded.

Aren't you a ray of sunshine.  Moving on from Brady?  More likely J Brady will get a head coaching job with another offensive performance that includes increased production from Kincaid.

 

And for this thread, what nimrod would want to move on from Kincaid?  The Bills finally have two good TEs.  That's what you want.  Get Kincaid stronger and in better shape for next year.  The FO is saying this for both Kincaid and Coleman about as loud as any team can possibly state it.

[uticaclub]

Just now, Einstein's Dog said:

Aren't you a ray of sunshine.  Moving on from Brady?  More likely J Brady will get a head coaching job with another offensive performance that includes increased production from Kincaid.

 

And for this thread, what nimrod would want to move on from Kincaid?  The Bills finally have two good TEs.  That's what you want.  Get Kincaid stronger and in better shape for next year.  The FO is saying this for both Kincaid and Coleman about as loud as any team can possibly state it.

Every year, a coordinator gets let go; that’s a fact. Dorsey had a promising start but eventually failed. I would prefer for Brady to succeed and secure a head coaching position, but I’m trying to be realistic. If you ask yourself what Kincaid does well, it’s hard to come up with an answer. I think the plan was to move on from Knox this year, but Kincaid's lack of development makes that impossible.

 

 

Coleman 🤡 is a completely different story.

[TheFunPolice]

I wonder if part of it is how close Knox and Allen are, with Kincaid coming in as the guy who is going to take Knox's place when he and Allen are best buddies. 

 

Should that be it? Of course not and it probably isn't, but part of me wonders if there is a difficult dynamic there. Teams rarely have 2 top TEs at once, so this new guy is going to come in and push one of the QBs best buddies out of town. 

 

All I know is I was so excited on draft night to hear about how "whoever lets Allen get Kincaid deserves what they get..." and it's been basically a total dud 

[SoTier]

On 2/8/2025 at 8:57 PM, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The guy was hurt. He will be fine

 

2 hours ago, LEBills said:

22. I talked with a Bills source who told me Dalton Kincaid’s lack of production last year was because he was a lot more injured than folks realized. “He’s gonna be a sleeper next year, trust me,” I was told. What about Amari Cooper, I asked? A shrug. “He might be done.” The implication to me being that Cooper’s days as an elite WR1 might be over, not that he would be leaving Buffalo. I still expect that if anyone would be the focal point of the Bills’ passing offense, it would have to be Khalil Shakir.
 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/matthew-berry/news/matthew-berrys-25-most-interesting-things-he-heard-at-2025-nfl-combine
 

This is notes from Matthew Berry’s time at the combine. As such it is focused on and filtered through a fantasy football lens.

 

I do remember a couple of years ago being down on Spencer Brown. Beane kept mentioning that injuries were a key reason for his struggles. Hopefully Kincaid can make a similar turnaround in 2025… Sounds like Coop won’t be back

 

You guys don't get it.  

 

It's the crucify every player except Josh Allen-every coach-every move made by the GM-on the Bills season among a certain segment of posters on TSW.  Injuries are just excuses.  Salary cap limits are just more excuses.  Every player except Allen is second rate.  Nobody can make mistakes and nobody can ever improve. The HC and coordinators are trash.  The GM is incompetent because he can't draft players who become All Pros as rookies.   The Bills are doomed to losing unless there's total regime change. 

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by SoTier

[BuffaloBillyG]

57 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

 

I don’t want to give up on Kincaid either. It’s not the smart move here. That said, it’s not what you paid for something that defines its worth, its value determines that. Right now Kincaid is not worth more than a third - and we would probably have trouble getting that. His struggles and injury last season and him being halfway through his cost controlled rookie contract both factor into that. So it’s not worth it to trade him because his upside outweighs his trade value. The same was true of Brown and that worked out. Maybe it’ll work out with Kincaid too. It’s certainly worth that chance IMO. 

Exactly. And if it was mainly the injury that did his season in this year, selling him off when his value is at an all time low is a ridiculous proposition IMO. If it was the injury as they seem to believe, him getting right and taking a step forward would likely be worth way more than whomever they would select in the third round of the draft 

50 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

I didn't realize he was that big, but wasn't it just a rookie record for tight ends? He still hasn't even had a 100-yard game. While I know that Brown developed, I can list more of Day 1 and Day 2 picks by Beane that didn't pan out. I understand that injuries slowed him down, but he didn't have a strong start to the season, which was concerning even before he got hurt in Indy.

We’ll probably move on from Brady or Babich after we get eliminated in next year’s playoffs. It will depend on how stale the offense looks or how badly the defense gets shredded.

Ok. That explains your overall perspective. If you have already conceded the entire season next year as a non Super Bowl year, I can see why you would give up on a player after an injury plagued year so quickly. You're a pessimist. Got it. 

[Ned Flanders]

I think he's a fine player and has a huge upside, but I think about that dropped fourth down pass vs. KC way too much.  A high school TE has to make that catch.

[uticaclub]

19 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

That explains your overall perspective. If you have already conceded the entire season next year as a non Super Bowl year, I can see why you would give up on a player after an injury plagued year so quickly. You're a pessimist. Got it. 

Nothing changes if nothing changes.

[boater]

25 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

 

You guys don't get it.  

 

It's the crucify every player except Josh Allen-every coach-every move made by the GM-on the Bills season among a certain segment of posters on TSW.  Injuries are just excuses.  Salary cap limits are just more excuses.  Every player except Allen is second rate.  Nobody can make mistakes and nobody can ever improve. The HC and coordinators are trash.  The GM is incompetent because he can't draft players who become All Pros as rookies.   The Bills are doomed to losing unless there's total regime change. 

 

 

 

You forgot to mention that the owner is under a spell cast by the HC.

[Goin Breakdown]

55 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

I wonder if part of it is how close Knox and Allen are, with Kincaid coming in as the guy who is going to take Knox's place when he and Allen are best buddies. 

 

Should that be it? Of course not and it probably isn't, but part of me wonders if there is a difficult dynamic there. Teams rarely have 2 top TEs at once, so this new guy is going to come in and push one of the QBs best buddies out of town. 

 

All I know is I was so excited on draft night to hear about how "whoever lets Allen get Kincaid deserves what they get..." and it's been basically a total dud 

I remember that too and thought "ok we have a legit pass catcher. He's had a couple good catches but, recency bias not as factor here, I think he's dropped a lot of passes for what was supposed to be his strength. I have hope for next season though.  

[BuffaloBillyG]

24 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Nothing changes if nothing changes.

"If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading." — Lao Tzu

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

 

You guys don't get it.  

 

It's the crucify every player except Josh Allen-every coach-every move made by the GM-on the Bills season among a certain segment of posters on TSW.  Injuries are just excuses.  Salary cap limits are just more excuses.  Every player except Allen is second rate.  Nobody can make mistakes and nobody can ever improve. The HC and coordinators are trash.  The GM is incompetent because he can't draft players who become All Pros as rookies.   The Bills are doomed to losing unless there's total regime change. 

 

 

 

fans on TSW aren't the ones hiring...and then firing all those coordinators.

[eball]

The takes in this thread…oy.

 

The kid was in his 2nd year and played hurt. Oh, and the offense was historic.

 

It’s the offseason indeed.  There are a whole lot more things to be concerned about than Dalton Kincaid, in my opinion.

 

[Simon]

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

 

You guys don't get it.  

 

It's the crucify every player except Josh Allen-every coach-every move made by the GM-on the Bills season among a certain segment of posters on TSW.  Injuries are just excuses.  Salary cap limits are just more excuses.  Every player except Allen is second rate.  Nobody can make mistakes and nobody can ever improve. The HC and coordinators are trash.  The GM is incompetent because he can't draft players who become All Pros as rookies.   The Bills are doomed to losing unless there's total regime change. 

 

 

 

Goddammit, I'm sick of excuses!

[SoTier]

1 hour ago, boater said:

 

You forgot to mention that the owner is under a spell cast by the HC.

 

My bad!  I forgot one.

 

 

 

[GETTOTHE50]

1 hour ago, Ned Flanders said:

I think he's a fine player and has a huge upside, but I think about that dropped fourth down pass vs. KC way too much.  A high school TE has to make that catch.

He’s dead to me after that drop. Couldnt care less about him 

[Breakout Squad]

Without bringing politics into it when I saw Kincaid with Trump at the golf course I was not happy. He has a bad knee that’s wrapped up and he’s out there golfing with the boys. Heaven forbid you give up one offseason of golfing to ensure you’re 100% to play football. Especially after a disappointing statistical year. 

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

5 hours ago, uticaclub said:

it’s hard to come up

 

[uticaclub]

2 hours ago, Breakout Squad said:

Without bringing politics into it when I saw Kincaid with Trump at the golf course I was not happy. He has a bad knee that’s wrapped up and he’s out there golfing with the boys. Heaven forbid you give up one offseason of golfing to ensure you’re 100% to play football. Especially after a disappointing statistical year. 

He might have been just hanging out taking chips & putts if he's too injuried to drive, some guys will do that. Walking a course might that be worst if he's told to keep moving, but I would be surprised with carts & beers weren't involved. 

[RunTheBall]

5 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

I wonder if part of it is how close Knox and Allen are, with Kincaid coming in as the guy who is going to take Knox's place when he and Allen are best buddies. 

 

Should that be it? Of course not and it probably isn't, but part of me wonders if there is a difficult dynamic there. Teams rarely have 2 top TEs at once, so this new guy is going to come in and push one of the QBs best buddies out of town. 

 

All I know is I was so excited on draft night to hear about how "whoever lets Allen get Kincaid deserves what they get..." and it's been basically a total dud 

Neither Knox or Kincaid are top TEs. Knox is solid but gets paid llke he’s a top TE. Kincaid had a good rookie season then sucked last year. I hope injuries are the reason and I’ll give him a Mulligan because he did flash a lot of potential his first year. I think Beane and McD have both made it clear they need him to get bigger and stronger. They are seeing the same things we are. If Kincaid takes it to heart and works his ass off this off season, I think he can bounce back. Knox you have to keep because of his blocking ability and Kincaid’s regression.

 

I’m cautiously optimistic these guys can be better contributors next year.