Dalton Kincaid- why so underwhelming this season?

[Brand J]

2 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Nailed it.

 

Example was him not fighting hard enough to get that 3rd-2 against the Chiefs.

 

Allowed himself to get tackled short of the mark. 

You’d think Kincaid would have better instincts with the ball in his hand too. After he caught that pass, if he gave a little jab step to the left to get the defender moving that way, he could’ve EASILY gotten the first if he took it wide to the sideline instead of cutting it up inside. Truthfully, he would’ve got the first if he just went wide without the jab step, that deke move would’ve been to make that particular defender a total non factor which would’ve resulted in a much bigger play. Laporta probably makes that first down and probably that catch on 4th down. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

20 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

I agree but we should still look to improve where we can.  Imo maybe one wr that can play outside and separate.   Otherwise yes, fix the defense.   

The guy was hurt. He will be fine

[Straight Hucklebuck]

59 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The guy was hurt. He will be fine

3.56 catches per game/6.00 targets per game/36.89 yards/game, 10.38 yards/catch in 9-games before the injury.

 

2.67 catches per game/4.17 targets per game/27.17 yards/game, 10.19 yards/catch in 6-games after the injury throwing out the Colts game including Playoffs.

 

Without Playoffs those numbers are:

 

3.33 catches per game/5.33 targets per game/30.67 yards/game, 9.20 yards/catch in 3 games post injury.

 

Yeah the numbers went down after the injury, but there wasn’t much going on before anyways. 
 

The average Kincaid game is:

 

5.72 targets/game, 4.03 catches/game, 9.58 yards/catch, 38.66 yards per game.

 

What does “fine” realistically translate to? 

 

4-TDS in 29 games. 
 

 

Edited Sunday at 02:56 AM by Straight Hucklebuck

[BananaB]

Brady can’t utilize 2 TEs so they both suffer. 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

15 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I’m getting aggravated with hearing people complain about ANYONE on the offense. The offense was elite. All time balance and scored at will. Every single problem was on defense. I don’t care who it is. If you are on offense…back off. They were part of something amazing. Every complaint should be directed towards the problem:

 

Mcdermott

the DC

The defense 

STs

 

Thats the list 

But if Kincaid makes just one last catch …. Alas, he did not. 

[billsfan714]

16 hours ago, JohnNord said:

I agree.  He was drafted to run Ken Dorsey’s pipe dream of 12 personnel but I don’t really think he’s a great fit for Brady’s offense.  
 

His blocking is a huge problem, as he has been a liability when called upon. It’s not just blocking as a TE in line, he also struggles when split out wide.  There was a screen against KC last week where Cooper got tackled because Kincaid was rocked by a DB.  
As a WR Mack Hollins has been a more reliable blocker out wide and even as a TE.  

 

Aside from this, he doesn’t really do a ton with the ball in his hands and he has not been the “sure handed” player he was touted as.  
 

I don’t have a ton of faith in Kincaid breaking out in year 3 like other fans do.  I think we’ve seen the type of player he is.  I think we’ll see another 40 catch season with about 9-10 yards reception.  That’s fine but the return is a far cry for what they traded to get him. 

 

I hated Beane pissing away a 4th to move up a few spots for him in the deepest TE draft in years.    Made no sense.

Edited Sunday at 04:52 PM by billsfan714

[QB Bills]

The drop was terrible. His effort on the third down was terrible. And let's not forget how pathetic he looked on that 4th down sneak that the refs butchered. Watch the replay on that. Instead of helping Josh push through, the weakling falls down and becomes a non-factor.

 

He's not as bad of a bust as Elam but he's a lot closer to that than many want to admit. Knox is and always has been significantly better. But Kincaid will be kept around because of where he was drafted.

[billsfan714]

2 hours ago, QB Bills said:

The drop was terrible. His effort on the third down was terrible. And let's not forget how pathetic he looked on that 4th down sneak that the refs butchered. Watch the replay on that. Instead of helping Josh push through, the weakling falls down and becomes a non-factor.

 

He's not as bad of a bust as Elam but he's a lot closer to that than many want to admit. Knox is and always has been significantly better. But Kincaid will be kept around because of where he was drafted.

Thanks for pointing out the weak ass effort on the 4th down.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

17 hours ago, Brand J said:

You’d think Kincaid would have better instincts with the ball in his hand too. After he caught that pass, if he gave a little jab step to the left to get the defender moving that way, he could’ve EASILY gotten the first if he took it wide to the sideline instead of cutting it up inside. Truthfully, he would’ve got the first if he just went wide without the jab step, that deke move would’ve been to make that particular defender a total non factor which would’ve resulted in a much bigger play. Laporta probably makes that first down and probably that catch on 4th down. 

Yeah I just watched that play like it was slow motion.
 

At first I thought he’d just put his head down and bulldoze to the line to gain.

 

Instead the defenders square up and tackle him short. 
 

The whole thing as you pointed out was just slow, no power to get through. 

[GoBills808]

17 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Yeah I just watched that play like it was slow motion.
 

At first I thought he’d just put his head down and bulldoze to the line to gain.

 

Instead the defenders square up and tackle him short. 
 

The whole thing as you pointed out was just slow, no power to get through. 

Why would you expect a player like Kincaid to be bulldozing people? That's not his game

 

We need to figure out how to utilize our player's strengths instead of continuing to put them in situations they're not suited to