Pete Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 3:50 PM, PBF81 said: Kincaid was the most prolific receiving TE in his draft class. It's pretty inconceivable that those receiving skills don't diminish overnight. The bigger concern is why did we draft a TE with those credentials in round 1 if all we were going to do was turn him into an "everybody eats" TE to put up average numbers for a TE. Could be methodology/system. Which receiver, TE or WR, on this team has been overwhelming or even above average. Short answer, none. But that's by design, agree with it or not. Expand No he wasnt. LaPorta had 86 catches, 889 yards, 10 TDs. Dalton is nowhere near those numbers. Chiefs have the worst numbers against opposing TEs. Dalton, and the RBs should feast. I have faith in the RBs. Dalton, Im rooting for you. Show me 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:06 PM, Pete said: No he wasnt. LaPorta had 86 catches, 889 yards, 10 TDs. Dalton is nowhere near those numbers. Chiefs have the worst numbers against opposing TEs. Dalton, and the RBs should feast. I have faith in the RBs. Dalton, Im rooting for you. Show me Expand Yes he was. He missed a game his rookie year and set a top 5 record for receptions for a te. The team then pivoted to a more power offense because of all the two high zone covg and he was still on pace for around 70 catches again. He missed a month.... Again Kincaid is massive in our offense and routinely attracts the other teams best CB on 3rd down now. Or they just straight up double him 1 Quote
Pete Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:16 PM, Kelly to Allen said: Yes he was. He missed a game his rookie year and set a top 5 record for receptions for a te. Expand Was Dalton going to catch 8 TDs in the game he missed? If hes top 5, he is behind LaPorta, and way behind Bowers 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:18 PM, Pete said: Was Dalton going to catch 8 TDs in the game he missed? If hes top 5, he is behind LaPorta, and way behind Bowers Expand No, he's not. He's much more skilled/ talented than those two. It's not close. Don't confuse volume numbers with who's better. Kincaid's emergence so quickly as a rookie is partly why the organization felt comfortable moving on from diggs. I can guarantee you that McDuffie will have some of his reps on Kincaid or KC will double him on many passing downs. 1 Quote
Pete Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:21 PM, Kelly to Allen said: No, he's not. He's much more skilled/ talented than those two. It's not close. Don't confuse volume numbers with who's better. Kincaid's emergence so quickly as a rookie is partly why the organization felt comfortable moving on from diggs. Expand I see Dalton dropping balls. I see Dalton failing to seperate. I see Knox making big plays for the Bills. Im waithing for Dalton to show up this playoffs. This aint the underwear olympics. Its what you do on the field that counts 1 1 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) On 1/25/2025 at 4:23 PM, Pete said: I see Dalton dropping balls. I see Dalton failing to seperate. I see Knox making big plays for the Bills. Im waithing for Dalton to show up this playoffs. This aint the underwear olympics. Its what you do on the field that counts Expand You must have missed the past two years or the Denver game....or last years playoffs... Edited January 25 by Kelly to Allen Quote
Pete Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 (edited) On 1/25/2025 at 4:24 PM, Kelly to Allen said: You must have missed the past two years or the Denver game.... Expand Dalton dropped a pass against Denver in a big spot. But Buffalo was quick to get the ball snapped before Denver could challenge. This is hurting your argument Edited January 25 by Pete 1 Quote
NewEra Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:21 PM, Kelly to Allen said: No, he's not. He's much more skilled/ talented than those two. It's not close. Don't confuse volume numbers with who's better. Kincaid's emergence so quickly as a rookie is partly why the organization felt comfortable moving on from diggs. I can guarantee you that McDuffie will have some of his reps on Kincaid or KC will double him on many passing downs. Expand Man- your love has caused you to be delusional. Kincaid is my favorite player not named Allen. “it’s not close” is just poor talent evaluation. I think he’s on Laportas level and slightly behind Bowers. 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:25 PM, Pete said: Dalton dropped a pass against Denver in a big spot. But Buffalo was quick to get the ball snapped before Denver could challenge. This is hurting your argument Expand No he didn't dude. 1 Quote
Pete Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 disagree all you want. But a 58% catch percentage is what it is. That is much closer to piss poor than elite Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:26 PM, NewEra said: Man- your love has caused you to be delusional. Kincaid is my favorite player not named Allen. “it’s not close” is just poor talent evaluation. I think he’s on Laportas level and slightly behind Bowers. Expand If Kincaid was in a high volume passing offense than this would be laughed at. It's delusional to say otherwise. Having back to back 70 catch years as a te in a ball control offense vs constant double teams is elite. Again ppl are confusing stats for ability. And stats in the context of this offense Quote
Pete Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:32 PM, Kelly to Allen said: If Kincaid was in a high volume passing offense than this would be laughed at. It's delusional to say otherwise. Having back to back 70 catch years as a te in a ball control offense vs constant double teams is elite. Again ppl are confusing stats for ability. And stats in the context of this offense Expand Kincaid had 44 catches lol Quote
Pete Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:33 PM, Pete said: Kincaid had 44 catches lol Expand Friggin Lonnie had better numbers, during the draught Quote
Pete Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:35 PM, Kelly to Allen said: You don't understand football Knox is an in-line te. That's not even Kincaid's position Expand you are defeating your argument. Knox is a complete TE. Knox is clutch in the playoffs (6 games Knox caught the first TD. Knox has made big plays this season. Dalton cannot block. Alll he has to worry about is catching passes. Knox has a higher catch rate, less drops, and more big plays than Dalton. 1 Quote
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:24 PM, Kelly to Allen said: You must have missed the past two years or the Denver game....or last years playoffs... Expand What happened in the Denver game? Or last year's playoffs? Quote
FireChans Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:01 PM, Kelly to Allen said: Kincaid is among the most skilled tes in the NFL. He'll be the best te in the NFL by the end of next year or so imo. He will probably have a big game in the AFC championship Expand Depends on your definition of “big game.” We are still waiting for a game over 100 yards in his career. 1 Quote
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:29 PM, Kelly to Allen said: No he didn't dude. Expand You're saying that was a clean catch? The ball was perfectly thrown, mind you. Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) On 1/25/2025 at 4:37 PM, Pete said: Friggin Lonnie had better numbers, during the draught Expand 😎 Cheer up dude. We're about to be world champions Edited January 25 by Kelly to Allen Quote
dma0034 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Bills need like a combo of Daboll's Passing Attack and Brady's Rushing Attack. Bills will need a WR, Safety and DE as their top 3 priorities in the off season (WR needs to be able to go deep) Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/25/2025 at 4:35 PM, Kelly to Allen said: You don't understand football Knox is an in-line te. That's not even Kincaid's position Again I'm new here but ppl purposely being in a delusion and wanting to be negative even when it doesn't line up with reality is just weird. The team is very close to winning its first world championship and you're complaining about one of the most skilled young tes in the NFL It's weird dude. He's not Kelce yet lol. You got me there... Missed a month ... Again get a grip Expand I really don’t think people realize he missed a month and he’s right on the borderline of disappointing/pretty good season stats wise so that’s a huge factor. Laportas name is getting thrown around but he’s used much differently and had like 400 more snaps because they don’t really have another TE that excels at anything and he only missed 1 game as opposed to 4 Quote
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