Thrivefourfive Posted January 22 Posted January 22 20 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said: I don’t want to talk about this now. But he’s not very good. Has no body. Great hands. And that’s it. Now prove me wrong Dalto! I take it back. I forget, his hands aren’t great. 9 minutes ago, boyst said: I've been predicting this for a while but a year or so early. I had expected this by 2022 as far back as '15-16. All things are cyclical but watching Cam Newton blow up defenders made me realize that teams could do well with a Derrick Henry or other big pounding backs - especially by a committee of their skillset. I love what we have with diversified players, but not sure what we have tied up in them. But 3 cheaper RB's vs a high end Henry has a benefit. Next up I want a fast OL - interior OL at that. I'd love to get Georgia's 6'5 310 center at 4.6 40 yards to make into a fullback. Now, I don't want to draft an OL or DL in the first 4 rounds for this... Well, maybe 4th round if he's perfect... But I'd sour the nation for fast, big, possibly compact (5'10-6) fast lineman who have hands. Consider it scoured Quote
Pete Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 10 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Dalton Kincaid was drafted last year and already has more playoff tds than Andrews and only 150 less receiving yards to be fair. It ain’t one rough game for andrews in the playoffs, he’s mostly a nonfactor Andrews played a pivotal role in the ravens blowing their divisional game as the 1 seed a few years ago too So would you like to compare Andrew’s and Daltons catch rate, stats, etc? Dalton and Andrew’s should not be used in the same comparison, yet. Maybe the light turns on for Dalton. He’s done Jack ***** this playoffs so far. Right now we are better off with Knox 1 Quote
Pete Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 KC gives up more yards to TEs than any other team in the NFL. Dawson Knox shows up in the playoffs. Does Dalton show up against the Chiefs? 1 Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/20/2025 at 11:19 AM, Spiderweb said: More like Brady just isn't using our TE group adequately. His second half play calling was dismal last night. He brought the run game back but he's neutered the passing attack to a degree... Not such a fan of his unlike many others. We'll see ... Starting to wonder myself … we have Josh friggin Allen and we want to become a power running team? I get balance but I would like to see an air attack that puts some fear in opposing DC’s 1 Quote
Pete Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 7 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: Because everyone shares the Pasta? 9 different Bills have had the most receiving yards in game. Kincaid is not eating, he’s malnourished 1 1 Quote
Returntoglory Posted January 25 Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, Pete said: 9 different Bills have had the most receiving yards in game. Kincaid is not eating, he’s malnourished Well there you go! Too many at the table! Quote
ganesh Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/21/2025 at 4:22 PM, colin said: barely over 6 yards a target and a 60% catch rate won't get him more involved. I think that's the story in a nut shell. the way our O runs, individual players don't get a lot of chances to get hot. and as said above he's not a mauler in the blocking game. i think a guy like likely in baltimore would be a monster contributor for the bills. huge and can move around and get open and catch. kincaid will get more chances to make an impact, but he's gotta be more efficient. Shakir did have 6 catches for 70 yards.... Josh will go to you if you get open and make the play 57 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Starting to wonder myself … we have Josh friggin Allen and we want to become a power running team? I get balance but I would like to see an air attack that puts some fear in opposing DC’s May be they are keeping that for the AFCC and SuperBowl. The playoffs put the best teams with the best QBs against each other. It is all a chess match of keeping the other QB and his offense on the bench.. You win by not giving the other team an OPPORTUNITY. Quote
Charles Romes Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Is frustrating because we all saw the first rounder elite body control and hands in 2023 that made him the crunch time target his rookie year. Something is off. That big catch v Denver should have been a real catch and if he makes that drive sustaining third quarter catch v the ravens it’s potentially a comfortable W. 1 Quote
Gugny Posted January 25 Posted January 25 I feel like Kincaid takes mean shots directly to the head on more than half of his receptions. Im not sure when the last one was, but perhaps he’s still shaking off some fog. He’s still an awesome target with a very bright future. I think he needs to learn how to protect his noggin better, though. Quote
Big Turk Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) He was injured for several games(thanks Josh Allen 😂) and "everybody eats". How they attack teams is game plan specific. One week you might be the focal point, another week you might only get a target of two. Or maybe none at all. Not sure why this is surprising. It goes for everyone on the roster and has been explained over and over and over again by Brady and the players. There is nothing "wrong" with Kincaid, it's just a byproduct of how the offense operates Edited January 25 by Big Turk 1 Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/20/2025 at 6:12 AM, Pete said: Im thinking about KC next week. Why cant we deploy Dalton like Kelce? A good TE is a QBs best friend they say. Im on cloud 9 today! GO BILLS! Kelece is the GOAT TE. And his numbers are even more amazing in the postseason I believe. If we are asking why can't Kincaid be deployed like the GOAT TE , I think we need to revaluate the question. The truth is, Bills are a running team that also spreads the ball around. In this offense, Khalil is going to be the most consistently targeted guy and we are still only talking like 6-8 targets max for even him. Quote
ganesh Posted January 25 Posted January 25 11 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Kelece is the GOAT TE. And his numbers are even more amazing in the postseason I believe. If we are asking why can't Kincaid be deployed like the GOAT TE , I think we need to revaluate the question. The truth is, Bills are a running team that also spreads the ball around. In this offense, Khalil is going to be the most consistently targeted guy and we are still only talking like 6-8 targets max for even him. But Shakil catches all those 6-8 targets...that is the difference. The Bills need a near perfect game at Arrowhead tomorrow evening. Go Bills !!! Quote
Pete Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Big Turk said: He was injured for several games(thanks Josh Allen 😂) and "everybody eats". How they attack teams is game plan specific. One week you might be the focal point, another week you might only get a target of two. Or maybe none at all. Not sure why this is surprising. It goes for everyone on the roster and has been explained over and over and over again by Brady and the players. There is nothing "wrong" with Kincaid, it's just a byproduct of how the offense operates What’s up with the 58% catch rate? I recall nothing but Kincaid drops, in big spots, this playoff. How come average TEs go buck wild against Buffalo? They make it look easy. Dalton makes it look difficult Edited January 25 by Pete Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/20/2025 at 9:06 AM, Pete said: Where are the mismatches? Where are the big plays? Why are you not clicking with Josh? Is Brady to blame? Opposing TEs continually find soft spots in our coverage, and catch large chunk plays, game after game. Why can't Kincaid? 9 different Bills have had most receiving yards in a game. Kincaid has 0. We know Kincaid has mitts, and he looks smooth sometimes. Hes got size, and some speed. Knox is a much more complete TE, yet Kincaid still struggles Will Kincaid make any big plays against KC? I like Dalton, and I am rooting for him. But Im perplexed why he is so underwhelming. Thoughts? GO BILLS! I’m tired of this fantasy football generation and it’s why I refuse to play it anymore. Just because a guy is not racking up huge stats doesn’t mean he’s not making a difference out there. I think if Allen locked onto Kincaid more often then he would have had a bigger season. We don’t have a single guy over 1000 this year, but Buffalo has passed for 3,938 yards. They are spreading the ball around, that’s it. Josh is hitting whoever’s open. Brady doesn’t go into the game making a certain receiver the focal point. This offense has brought us to the AFC Championship. Individual stats don’t mean anything. Plus, Kincaid has Knox to contend with who is also a better run blocker. Quote
PBF81 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) Perhaps it's because Allen's Completions, Attempts, and Yards in our new system are down by about 20% across the board there. Everybody Eats, but no one's getting more than sustenance rations. Kincaid was the most prolific receiving TE in his draft class. It's pretty inconceivable that those receiving skills don't diminish overnight. The bigger concern is why did we draft a TE with those credentials in round 1 if all we were going to do was turn him into an "everybody eats" TE to put up average numbers for a TE. Shakir's only put up 200 more yards than he did last season with Diggs and Davis here taking his opps. Could be methodology/system. Which receiver, TE or WR, on this team has been overwhelming or even above average. Short answer, none. But that's by design, agree with it or not. Edited January 25 by PBF81 1 Quote
FireChans Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: Perhaps it's because Allen's Completions, Attempts, and Yards in our new system are down by about 20% across the board there. Everybody Eats, but no one's getting more than sustenance rations. Kincaid was the most prolific receiving TE in his draft class. It's pretty inconceivable that those receiving skills don't diminish overnight. The bigger concern is why did we draft a TE with those credentials in round 1 if all we were going to do was turn him into an "everybody eats" TE to put up average numbers for a TE. Shakir's only put up 200 more yards than he did last season with Diggs and Davis here taking his opps. Could be methodology/system. Shortening the game by emphasizing the run =‘s less plays =‘s less passes =‘s less numbers. Its really no surprise. Josh Allen threw the ball 483 times last year. Do you know how far back in Tom Brady’s career you have to go to find a comparable # of attempts? 2016, when he played 12 games and then 2004! Everybody eats was really nobody eats. It worked, because Josh was more awesome than ever and because the role players are well suited for their roles. But it’s not a situation for anyone to put up numbers. And when Dalton Kincaid can’t stay on the field for health reasons, and is unlikely to grow more in his role because he’s already gonna be 26 next season, and isn’t as good of a blocker or as physical as Knox, it’s not surprising he’s disappointing. 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Shortening the game by emphasizing the run =‘s less plays =‘s less passes =‘s less numbers. Its really no surprise. Josh Allen threw the ball 483 times last year. Do you know how far back in Tom Brady’s career you have to go to find a comparable # of attempts? 2016, when he played 12 games and then 2004! Everybody eats was really nobody eats. It worked, because Josh was more awesome than ever and because the role players are well suited for their roles. But it’s not a situation for anyone to put up numbers. And when Dalton Kincaid can’t stay on the field for health reasons, and is unlikely to grow more in his role because he’s already gonna be 26 next season, and isn’t as good of a blocker or as physical as Knox, it’s not surprising he’s disappointing. Kincaid is among the most skilled tes in the NFL. He'll be the best te in the NFL by the end of next year or so imo. He will probably have a big game in the AFC championship Quote
Pete Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Kincaid was the most prolific receiving TE in his draft class. It's pretty inconceivable that those receiving skills don't diminish overnight. The bigger concern is why did we draft a TE with those credentials in round 1 if all we were going to do was turn him into an "everybody eats" TE to put up average numbers for a TE. Could be methodology/system. Which receiver, TE or WR, on this team has been overwhelming or even above average. Short answer, none. But that's by design, agree with it or not. No he wasnt. LaPorta had 86 catches, 889 yards, 10 TDs. Dalton is nowhere near those numbers. Chiefs have the worst numbers against opposing TEs. Dalton, and the RBs should feast. I have faith in the RBs. Dalton, Im rooting for you. Show me 1 Quote
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