1:33 left on the clock

[The Red King]

Actually, that's something that's really upsetting me.  A lot of people are saying they dropped a two-point conversion that would have led to OT. Um...still time left.  Regulation was not over at that point.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

3 hours ago, Sweats said:

So, Larry (our office Ravens fan) actually brought up a good point this morning.......

 

Even if Andrews caught the 2-point conversion and tied the game, there was still 1:33 on the clock, which he believed the Bills would have had plenty of time to go down the field and score a FG to win the game anyways.

 

I don't know, man........we weren't having a lot of success in large plays all game long, so the chances of the Ravens suddenly just allowing us to march down the field seems suspect.

Thoughts?!?

My money is on Josh to pick up 40 yards w/ 1:33 and two time outs. Don’t need large plays. That’s plenty of time to methodically get down the field 5-7 yards at a time. Plus you know Allen would break off a couple big runs. People act like OT was all but certain. Buffalo is one of the best 2 minute offenses in the game, we just tend to see that the end of the 1st half opposed to the 4th quarter.

[Solomon Grundy]

This is why you put the game away 4th and goal at the 3. Limit the scenarios

13 minutes ago, The Red King said:

Actually, that's something that's really upsetting me.  A lot of people are saying they dropped a two-point conversion that would have led to OT. Um...still time left.  Regulation was not over at that point.

What if the Bills committed an untimely TO?

[Danger Mouse]

3 hours ago, Sweats said:

So, Larry (our office Ravens fan) actually brought up a good point this morning.......

 

Even if Andrews caught the 2-point conversion and tied the game, there was still 1:33 on the clock, which he believed the Bills would have had plenty of time to go down the field and score a FG to win the game anyways.

 

I don't know, man........we weren't having a lot of success in large plays all game long, so the chances of the Ravens suddenly just allowing us to march down the field seems suspect.

Thoughts?!?

 

I just assumed we'd score 3. Plenty of time and we'd be hard to stop on a 4 down drive. 

[hondo in seattle]

3 hours ago, Sweats said:

So, Larry (our office Ravens fan) actually brought up a good point this morning.......

 

Even if Andrews caught the 2-point conversion and tied the game, there was still 1:33 on the clock, which he believed the Bills would have had plenty of time to go down the field and score a FG to win the game anyways.

 

I don't know, man........we weren't having a lot of success in large plays all game long, so the chances of the Ravens suddenly just allowing us to march down the field seems suspect.

Thoughts?!?

 

I thought about this before the Ravens last drive.  For them to win, they would need to:

 

1.  Score a TD, 

2.  Score a 2-point conversion,  

3.  Stop us from getting at least a FG.

 

Any one of these seemed likely enough.  For them to do all three, however, seemed unlikely.  At least that's what I told myself as I paced in front of the tv with blood pressure in the danger range.  

[Simon]

20 minutes ago, Danger Mouse said:

Plenty of time and we'd be hard to stop on a 4 down drive. 

 

It wouldn't have been a 4 down drive with the game being tied.

Maybe a 4th/1 inside the Ravens 40 with under 20-30 seconds left, but outside that they couldn't have afforded to risk giving Baltimore the ball back in a tie game.

[Sweats]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

It wouldn't have been a 4 down drive with the game being tied.

Maybe a 4th/1 inside the Ravens 40 with under 20-30 seconds left, but outside that they couldn't have afforded to risk giving Baltimore the ball back in a tie game.

 

 

 

My god, could you imagine the fan reaction and outrage if that happened?!?.........no matter if the Ravens had scored to win the game or not, the fans would be calling for heads.

[Boatdrinks]

29 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

This is why you put the game away 4th and goal at the 3. Limit the scenarios

What if the Bills committed an untimely TO?

Still far from a certainty . Statistically unlikely . The most likely scenario there is a game winning FG. I’d rather have the ball in that situation than be on defense. Most football fans would agree I’m sure. 

Edited 20 hours ago by Boatdrinks

[Charles Romes]

Interestingly, most of the Ravens fans agree that Allen would have driven the Bills down for the FG:

 

https://forum.russellstreetreport.com/showthread.php?293737-Even-if-Andrews-had-caught-the-2-point-conversion%85

[The Red King]

32 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

This is why you put the game away 4th and goal at the 3. Limit the scenarios

What if the Bills committed an untimely TO?

 

Entirely possible, and also could have resulted in no OT.

[Alphadawg7]

4 hours ago, Sweats said:

So, Larry (our office Ravens fan) actually brought up a good point this morning.......

 

Even if Andrews caught the 2-point conversion and tied the game, there was still 1:33 on the clock, which he believed the Bills would have had plenty of time to go down the field and score a FG to win the game anyways.

 

I don't know, man........we weren't having a lot of success in large plays all game long, so the chances of the Ravens suddenly just allowing us to march down the field seems suspect.

Thoughts?!?

We moved the ball fine, we had just marched the field the drive before.  I have supreme confidence we win that game regardless of the 2 point conversion.  Bills were doing fine until they got conservative and safe in 3rd quarter.  They got back to what they do and moved much better in the 4th.  
 

The bigger question is does Bass make the kick (I think he does), not if we would have gotten into position or not.  
 

We never even turned Josh loose because we didn’t have to.  It was crystal clear the game plan was long drives to keep the Ravens off the field.  In poor throwing conditions weather wise and against a defense that has been the best in the NFL at defending the 20+ yard plays, they came out intending to let our OL work, control the LOS and slow the game down.  Especially once we started winning the turnover battle and got to steal possessions.
 

But in the 4th up just 2, they went back to opening up a little more and we were moving the ball better even though we still weren’t pushing anything really.  
 

This is exactly like last year when Bass missed the tying kick.  KC and Mahomes had about the same amount of time left and there was no way they weren’t going to win that game as they would have gotten the FG.  Allen is elite like Mahomes, he would have gotten us in range even if he had to put his Superman cape on.  Especially given there isn’t even pressure, game isn’t on the line, only OT is.  

Edited 20 hours ago by Alphadawg7

[Danger Mouse]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

It wouldn't have been a 4 down drive with the game being tied.

Maybe a 4th/1 inside the Ravens 40 with under 20-30 seconds left, but outside that they couldn't have afforded to risk giving Baltimore the ball back in a tie game.

 

ah yes, of course. 

[The Jokeman]

2 hours ago, The Red King said:

Actually, that's something that's really upsetting me.  A lot of people are saying they dropped a two-point conversion that would have led to OT. Um...still time left.  Regulation was not over at that point.

Or worse talking heads that claim that the Ravens were one play away from winning (Andrews' drop). I don't buy it as the drive before we scored the FG that ultinately won it for us. 

[Buffalo03]

5 hours ago, The Red King said:

Actually, that's something that's really upsetting me.  A lot of people are saying they dropped a two-point conversion that would have led to OT. Um...still time left.  Regulation was not over at that point.

GMFB this morning said "if Andrews catches that, it goes to OT and they believe the Ravens win in OT because they had all the momentum". All I was thinking was, how ignorant do they have to be to forget that there was still 1:33 left and 2 timeouts for us to go down the field and get a FG. Everyone on GMFB seemed upset lol

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 tos and 1:33 needing only a fg is plenty of time

Edited 14 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[without a drought]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

2 tos and 1:33 needing only a fg is plenty of time

I was feeling good about that, I was glad it wasn't the other way around.

 

Then the dropped 2pt conversion and it didn't matter.

[MJS]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking at the time. Even if they tied it up, the Bills had plenty of time. I think they had two time outs as well? Not totally sure on that.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

4 minutes ago, MJS said:

Yeah, that's what I was thinking at the time. Even if they tied it up, the Bills had plenty of time. I think they had two time outs as well? Not totally sure on that.

They had one left after their last offensive possession that they used rather spitefully after we sealed the game 🤣

Edited 14 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Orlando Buffalo]

9 hours ago, Sweats said:

So, Larry (our office Ravens fan) actually brought up a good point this morning.......

 

Even if Andrews caught the 2-point conversion and tied the game, there was still 1:33 on the clock, which he believed the Bills would have had plenty of time to go down the field and score a FG to win the game anyways.

 

I don't know, man........we weren't having a lot of success in large plays all game long, so the chances of the Ravens suddenly just allowing us to march down the field seems suspect.

Thoughts?!?

We have the greatest weapon in NFL history who we had not unleashed up to that point, I have faith Josh gets us the FG from about the 15 yard line. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 hours ago, The Red King said:

Actually, that's something that's really upsetting me.  A lot of people are saying they dropped a two-point conversion that would have led to OT. Um...still time left.  Regulation was not over at that point.

Same thing happened on that stupid Kelce lateral play against kc last year with the offensive Offside.  Everyone acted like it was a walkoff win that they missed out on due to a technicality but there was plenty of time for us to drive down and score even if that counted 

Edited 14 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan