1:33 left on the clock

[Sweats]

Just now, Buffalo03 said:

I think we would have opened the game up and driven down close enough for it, yes. You think we would have ran the same conservative stuff we did all night?

 

 

 

You don't think the Ravens DB's would be licking their chops just sitting back waiting for JA to throw the ball and looking for the INT to seal the game?

 

There's a reason why we were ultra conservative in the 2nd half and limiting the opportunities for the Ravens to get a turnover off us, however, there is no secret with 1:33 left on the clock that the ball will be passed around, allowing opportunities for the Ravens to make a play.

 

I know our O would have opened it up.........the Ravens D would have known it too.

[Buffalo03]

4 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said:

The 1:33 remaining in the game was not just my comfort factor but my cause for optimism as the Ravens went for two. I was confident Josh would get us to at least three and was looking forward to our MVP putting his stamp of clutch on the game.

No, we would have let Josh be Josh. And he would have won the game.

By opening up the game lol

[JMM]

I had NO doubt Josh would have gotten us in position for game winning FG. NO DOUBT

[Buffalo03]

1 minute ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

You don't think the Ravens DB's would be licking their chops just sitting back waiting for JA to throw the ball and looking for the INT to seal the game?

 

There's a reason why we were ultra conservative in the 2nd half and limiting the opportunities for the Ravens to get a turnover off us, however, there is no secret with 1:33 left on the clock that the ball will be passed around, allowing opportunities for the Ravens to make a play.

 

I know our O would have opened it up.........the Ravens D would have known it too.

Yes, but that doesn't mean that Josh and the Bills couldn't have went down the field. We were wayyyyyy to conservative last night and it almost cost us. I think if we open it up that last drive, we make it into field goal range

[Jauronimo]

41 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

.........exactly.

 

What i've been trying to say all thread long (and probably not real coherent about it) is that with 1:33 left on the clock, there is no guarantee what the outcome will be. As a Bills fan, it's easy to say that JA would have put on the cape and "willed" the team down to FG range to win the game, however realistically, the chances of us going 3 and out and handing the ball back to the Ravens with just under a minute left was a real possibility, as we didn't really move the ball successfully in the 2nd half.

They had one timeout remaining?  I don't think we would have been so careless with the clock.

[Sweats]

Just now, Buffalo03 said:

Yes, but that doesn't mean that Josh and the Bills couldn't have went down the field. We were wayyyyyy to conservative last night and it almost cost us. I think if we open it up that last drive, we make it into field goal range

 

 

 

I think we should have opened it up all 2nd half. We should have come out of half time swinging for the fences, dictate the pace and put the game away.......we had the opportunity and didn't capitalize and basically left the door open for the Ravens.

 

We've been fairly aggressive all season long, so yesterday in playing conservative, is an anomaly to me.

4 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

They had one timeout remaining?  I don't think we would have been so careless with the clock.

 

 

 

 

So, we've never been careless with the clock?.........got it.

[Mikey]

Yesterday was another horribly called game by McDermott. Nonetheless I’m confident that Josh would’ve led Bills down field for the Win with 1:33 left on clock-

[Jauronimo]

2 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

I think we should have opened it up all 2nd half. We should have come out of half time swinging for the fences, dictate the pace and put the game away.......we had the opportunity and didn't capitalize and basically left the door open for the Ravens.

 

We've been fairly aggressive all season long, so yesterday in playing conservative, is an anomaly to me.

 

 

 

 

So, we've never been careless with the clock?.........got it.

Is that what I f@#$ing said?  Looks like you don't got it.  Like not even close to getting it.  

 

Let me try it your way so you can see just how obnoxious and childish it is to discuss a topic in this way:

 

So you're saying they ALWAYS botch time management?.....got it.  

 

I feel like dirty and stupid typing that out.

[Buffalo03]

4 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

I think we should have opened it up all 2nd half. We should have come out of half time swinging for the fences, dictate the pace and put the game away.......we had the opportunity and didn't capitalize and basically left the door open for the Ravens.

 

We've been fairly aggressive all season long, so yesterday in playing conservative, is an anomaly to me.

 

 

 

 

So, we've never been careless with the clock?.........got it.

I do agree we should have opened it up all of the second half. We had a 21-10 lead at halftime. We should have come out and went for the kill shot on that first drive out of halftime. I think if we get to 28-10, there is no way, they come even close to winning that game. And then we could have relaxed more at that point. But the whole 2nd half game plan nearly cost us

[peterpan]

2 hours ago, Sweats said:

So, Larry (our office Ravens fan) actually brought up a good point this morning.......

 

Even if Andrews caught the 2-point conversion and tied the game, there was still 1:33 on the clock, which he believed the Bills would have had plenty of time to go down the field and score a FG to win the game anyways.

 

I don't know, man........we weren't having a lot of success in large plays all game long, so the chances of the Ravens suddenly just allowing us to march down the field seems suspect.

Thoughts?!?

Dude it was beyond guaranteed that Allen would save the day and get us down the field.  Probably a TD with too much time left, allowing the ravens another chance. 
 

zero doubt whatsoever

2 hours ago, Buffalo4Life01 said:

I would have given the Bills about a 90% chance of marching down the field for a short, game winning FG.  Most of the reason Buffalo didn't have success passing the ball is that their game plan was to rely on the running game to bleed the clock and keep the Ravens offense off the field.  It almost back fired but it worked out okay.  IF they HAD to pass the ball at the end of the game, I think Brady would then open up the playbook and let Josh go win the game.  It can be argued that he should have done that from the very beginning but a win is a win.

Go Bills!!

Perfect answer 

[I'mBuff]

1 hour ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

 

............just like against the Texans?

 

How'd that work out for us when the game was on the line, JA had to march down the field for a game winning FG and the suspect play calling?

And you're confident that the Ravens who would not really let us get any air game going, were just going to let us prance our way down the field to win the game?

 

I'm not so sure, but thankfully we didn't need to find out.

Not so sure it was the Ravens not letting us get the air game going. That was a choice of Brady and McDermott.

[Sweats]

7 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Is that what I f@#$ing said?  Looks like you don't got it.  Like not even close to getting it.  

 

Let me try it your way so you can see just how obnoxious and childish it is to discuss a topic in this way:

 

So you're saying they ALWAYS botch time management?.....got it.  

 

I feel like dirty and stupid typing that out.

 

 

 

Relax man, i'm just getting your goat........but if any other man makes a play for your goat, i'l slap him.

[Bookie Man]

That's why I said in the GDT that bleeding the clock down and taking a TO was a bad move. Time wasn't much of a factor. 3:30 is more than enough time for a team like Baltimore to go down and score. If they could have gotten the clock to under 2:30, then that move would make more sense. They ended up scoring quickly, so 1:33 with 2 timeouts is plenty of time to get in FG range.. usually. But say Baltimore didn't score on on a big play and they were in the 10 yard range. Harbaugh definitely would have milked the clock down to give Bills minimal time, so the extra time and TO would have been huge. 

[Einstein's Dog]

11 minutes ago, Mikey said:

Yesterday was another horribly called game by McDermott. Nonetheless I’m confident that Josh would’ve led Bills down field for the Win with 1:33 left on clock-

These type of comments make me feel a lot of people don't understand game management.  This was a near masterpiece out of McDermott and we have people who are so blinded by a preconceived bias they refuse to acknowledge it when it unfolds before their eyes.

 

 

[Playoffs?]

2 hours ago, Dafan said:

Everyone was celebrating the 2pt drop by Andrew's.  I was freaking out.  I believed we would have driven down and won the game before overtime.  But once that drop happened....my stomach turned.  In old Bills fashion I thought "f***, now Ravens are gonna get the onside kick and Tucker will get the game winning field goal."

 

That drop had me more worried than if he had caught it.

Haha!  I was thinking the same… 

“Please don’t give the ravens the ball back!”

[BarleyNY]

2 hours ago, Sweats said:

So, Larry (our office Ravens fan) actually brought up a good point this morning.......

 

Even if Andrews caught the 2-point conversion and tied the game, there was still 1:33 on the clock, which he believed the Bills would have had plenty of time to go down the field and score a FG to win the game anyways.

 

I don't know, man........we weren't having a lot of success in large plays all game long, so the chances of the Ravens suddenly just allowing us to march down the field seems suspect.

Thoughts?!?

 

That was my thought at the time as well. 93 seconds plus we had time outs left. We had plenty of time to score. I wasn’t even worried about it being on a Bass FG. At the start of their drive I predicted they’d get the TD but fail on the 2 pt conversion. They’d already turned the ball over 3x and dropped some passes. It just seemed like the Ravens were going to find a way to lose that game. They were choking and the Bills were cool, calm and collected. Nice to have it be the other team that makes mistakes in a game like this. The Ravens had more talent, but the Bills were the better team yesterday. 

[ColoradoBills]

2 hours ago, Sweats said:

So, Larry (our office Ravens fan) actually brought up a good point this morning.......

 

Even if Andrews caught the 2-point conversion and tied the game, there was still 1:33 on the clock, which he believed the Bills would have had plenty of time to go down the field and score a FG to win the game anyways.

 

I don't know, man........we weren't having a lot of success in large plays all game long, so the chances of the Ravens suddenly just allowing us to march down the field seems suspect.

Thoughts?!?

 

Josh would have moved the ball down the field and Bass would have kicked the winning FG.

Josh was not going to be denied.  

[section122]

2 hours ago, Dafan said:

Everyone was celebrating the 2pt drop by Andrew's.  I was freaking out.  I believed we would have driven down and won the game before overtime.  But once that drop happened....my stomach turned.  In old Bills fashion I thought "f***, now Ravens are gonna get the onside kick and Tucker will get the game winning field goal."

 

That drop had me more worried than if he had caught it.

 

2 hours ago, mjt328 said:

 

All the scenarios were going through my head.

The Ravens getting the onsides kick...

Fumbling the snap on the kneel down...

 

Being a Bills fan is hard.

 

I hate how true both of these statements are.  I didn't celebrate the missed 2 pointer.  I dreaded the onside kick.  Then they lined up to run a play and I was even more stressed.  I celebrated hard when they got that first down though!

 

To the thread I said immediately they left too much time on the clock for Josh.  Don't forget Marlon Humphrey was injured and out of the game.  That either opens the slot or forces Hamilton down into the slot and makes deep passing plays easier.

[colin]

if they converted, they'd kick it deep (they'd rather have their d on the field to force overtime than rely on their kick coverage) and we'd have the ball at the 30 w 93 seconds and two TOs.  we'd need to get to the 34, 56 yards. 

 

I say we'd have put Ty Johnson on the field, he's who we go with on these high leverage downs, and he can run it, block and make great catches (he was criminally underused, cook is great but we just lined him up and ran and they crush that).  Allen would buy time, run the ball and Ty would find space on broken plays.  i think we'd have gotten to the 20s with a quickness, rumbled allen for a first down, and kick it from the 10 or so with no time on the clock.

 

i honestly think more Ty (baltimore is just bad vs rb passes) in the 3rd quarter we run an extra 4 minutes off the clock in the first two drives and score between 7 and 14 extra points.  the game would have been won after the ravens 2nd 2nd half possession with some time burned and a FG.

 

just like vs detroit, the coaches actually came out with some solid game plans (way more on d than o last night) but got way too conservative way too quickly.  the ease we made those first downs to win those games with plays to the outside tells me it was always there and we coulda taken it early.

[jkeerie]

And McD did not use a defensive time out in the 4th quarter, Correct?   That's a first!   The Bills would have had 1:33 and 3 time outs.