MikePJ76 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago If you did a poll before the game every single one of us would have been excited that Allen would have had the ball in a tie game with 1:33 left. but for the first time maybe ever the other team made a critical mistake. that Andrews drop was like if frank wycheck air mailed a ball two rows deep into the stands instead of a completed forward pass to Kevin Dyson. 5 1 Quote
Ya Digg? Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Sweats said: So, Larry (our office Ravens fan) actually brought up a good point this morning....... Even if Andrews caught the 2-point conversion and tied the game, there was still 1:33 on the clock, which he believed the Bills would have had plenty of time to go down the field and score a FG to win the game anyways. I don't know, man........we weren't having a lot of success in large plays all game long, so the chances of the Ravens suddenly just allowing us to march down the field seems suspect. Thoughts?!? I could not disagree with this more. Josh would’ve been throwing, using his legs-Brady is smart enough to know not to take the ball out of his hands. I actually think there is little doubt Josh would’ve gotten the team into short field goal range and they would win the game 3 1 4 Quote
Sweats Posted 20 hours ago Author Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ya Digg? said: I could not disagree with this more. Josh would’ve been throwing, using his legs-Brady is smart enough to know not to take the ball out of his hands. I actually think there is little doubt Josh would’ve gotten the team into short field goal range and they would win the game ............just like against the Texans? How'd that work out for us when the game was on the line, JA had to march down the field for a game winning FG and the suspect play calling? And you're confident that the Ravens who would not really let us get any air game going, were just going to let us prance our way down the field to win the game? I'm not so sure, but thankfully we didn't need to find out. 1 1 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, Sweats said: ............just like against the Texans? How'd that work out for us when the game was on the line, JA had to march down the field for a game winning FG and the suspect play calling? And you're confident that the Ravens who would not really let us get any air game going, were just going to let us prance our way down the field to win the game? I'm not so sure, but thankfully we didn't need to find out. They had the ball inside their own 5 without shakir. It was a tough ask against a very good defense. that Houston game has no parallels to yesterday. 1 1 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Sweats said: So, Larry (our office Ravens fan) actually brought up a good point this morning....... Even if Andrews caught the 2-point conversion and tied the game, there was still 1:33 on the clock, which he believed the Bills would have had plenty of time to go down the field and score a FG to win the game anyways. I don't know, man........we weren't having a lot of success in large plays all game long, so the chances of the Ravens suddenly just allowing us to march down the field seems suspect. Thoughts?!? With 3 TOs, 1:30 and getting the ball on the 30, you only need 40-50 yards to get a legit chance. Bills likely get it. Ravens almost certainly sit back on the first few plays and give up 20-25 yards to try to get us to burn TOs in the middle of the field. After that Josh and Shakir and the RBs continue to work and set up the FG to win with 10-15 seconds left. 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 28 minutes ago, Sweats said: So, Larry (our office Ravens fan) actually brought up a good point this morning....... Even if Andrews caught the 2-point conversion and tied the game, there was still 1:33 on the clock, which he believed the Bills would have had plenty of time to go down the field and score a FG to win the game anyways. I don't know, man........we weren't having a lot of success in large plays all game long, so the chances of the Ravens suddenly just allowing us to march down the field seems suspect. Thoughts?!? 1st thing on my mind was " 1:33 and we have Allen. We win this" Edited 20 hours ago by SoonerBillsFan 5 Quote
BananaB Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) Josh didn’t have a big game because he wasn’t asked to have a big game. Had Andrews made that catch Allen would have taken over, he is pretty clutch lat in games. Do doubt he gets us in FG range. Be more worried about Bass making the kick Edited 20 hours ago by BananaB 2 Quote
Sweats Posted 20 hours ago Author Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said: They had the ball inside their own 5 without shakir. It was a tough ask against a very good defense. that Houston game has no parallels to yesterday. Trying to gain yards and work your way down the field for a game winning FG against a good D doesn't garner any parallels?!? Um, yeah........no. 1 Quote
RiotAct Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago I posted the exact same sentiment last night in the PGT… I strongly suspect we still would have won, but more than glad to not test that theory! 1 Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Sweats said: ............just like against the Texans? How'd that work out for us when the game was on the line, JA had to march down the field for a game winning FG and the suspect play calling? And you're confident that the Ravens who would not really let us get any air game going, were just going to let us prance our way down the field to win the game? I'm not so sure, but thankfully we didn't need to find out. On the road. No Shakir. Inside the 5 yard line. 30 seconds left. Arguably best defensive line in the league in terms of pass rush. Totally different circumstances from what the Bills would have been up against. 3 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Sweats said: So, Larry (our office Ravens fan) actually brought up a good point this morning....... Even if Andrews caught the 2-point conversion and tied the game, there was still 1:33 on the clock, which he believed the Bills would have had plenty of time to go down the field and score a FG to win the game anyways. I don't know, man........we weren't having a lot of success in large plays all game long, so the chances of the Ravens suddenly just allowing us to march down the field seems suspect. Thoughts?!? I think there is a very good chance the Bills would have gotten into long FG range - 45 to 50 yards. Quote
Tulsabillsfanz Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) I think we would’ve opened the playbook back up, driven down the field and won the game. We played not to lose way too much with second half play calls. It would’ve been different on the final drive. Like no behind the line, wide out throws to Dawson Knox on 3rd & 5. Josh has led many late scoring drives in big games. He did it twice in one game in Kansas City a few years ago! I think he would’ve done it again! Edited 20 hours ago by Tulsabillsfanz 1 1 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Sweats said: ............just like against the Texans? How'd that work out for us when the game was on the line, JA had to march down the field for a game winning FG and the suspect play calling? And you're confident that the Ravens who would not really let us get any air game going, were just going to let us prance our way down the field to win the game? I'm not so sure, but thankfully we didn't need to find out. As others have pointed out the situation was 100% different then last night. We were at our own 5 yard line and on the road. Quote
H2o Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago I had faith that JA17 would have put the cape on and did his thing. Turned out he didn't have to. The main thing is the Ravens are on the couch and we are moving on. Could care less about any of the 🤡's on TV right now. 2 Quote
Sweats Posted 20 hours ago Author Posted 20 hours ago I'm not saying that we wouldn't have not won the game if JA had 1:33 to work with, 2 time outs and an open playbook to march down the field for a game winning FG.........how confident are you that this scenario would have happened? Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 22 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: i think we should have scored 7 instead of 3, having been at the 2 yard line before that last drive of the Ravens. would have put the game away and we wouldnt be worrying about it this morning. maybe we kick a field goal to win if the Ravens had tied it, or maybe the offense that hadnt done much the whole 2nd half gets stopped. either way im glad it worked out in our favor. McD made the smart move going for 3 and ensuring we went up by 8. If we go for it and don’t get the TD, Ravens TD would have put them ahead. And maybe today rather than having won the game, we’re lamenting losing the game. By going up 8, Ravens at best could have tied the game on their possession, if they got a TD (which they did) and then the two point conversion, which they failed under pressure. I’m not worrying about that decision at all. It worked out as planned and we won the game. 1 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Sweats said: Trying to gain yards and work your way down the field for a game winning FG against a good D doesn't garner any parallels?!? Um, yeah........no. The bills were at home, they more than likely barring some huge mistake would not have been inside their own 5 and they had all their guys on offense. so no there are none. Starting at your own 30 at home with all your guys is vastly different. 1 Quote
SinceThe70s Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago I went from elation that they missed the two point conversion to dread at the thought that the game came down to covering an on-sides kick in bad conditions vs. trusting Josh to get us into FG position with 1:33 and two time outs left. 1 Quote
scuba guy Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Well if you watch the reply of the 2 point conversion. Marks back side was out of bounds. He was also short of the goal line. So maybe it is a moot point 3 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, scuba guy said: Well if you watch the reply of the 2 point conversion. Marks back side was out of bounds. He was also short of the goal line. This is a great point. His momentum was definitely taking him out of bounds so even if he had caught the pass his back was to the plane of the end zone and the ball may never have broken the plane before he slid out of bounds. Edited 20 hours ago by CincyBillsFan 1 Quote
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