AFC Championship Game Week Thread - Bills at Chiefs

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

18 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

You think we might have to score 40 to win when the Chiefs hasn't scored 31 all year 

 

Dude we played them without five or six starters last year.. they're not magically going to score 9 more points than they have all year 

 

Chiefs are going to be lucky to get 27 which would be high

The discussion around this game has been so bizarre I’m really excited(nervous?) to see what happens haha. I feel like all the advanced analytics and matchup type stuff favors the bills and the argument against the bills winning is just ‘well it’s the chiefs’ 

 

im seeing some predictions where the bills win like 28-17 and that’s honestly how it’s feeling to me.  
 

if the bills offense wasn’t so efficient maybe the chiefs point total could get high but like last year I feel like that’s gonna protect them against the point total getting crazy high.  If you throw Milano in for aj klein last year it’s a win imo 

 

these playoff games where the chiefs seemed to move at will we had Dane Jackson and Levi Wallace at corner against probably one of those most stacked offenses in recent memory and aj klein at the most important position on defense.  I don’t think there’s some playoff ‘magic’ that drove those point totals up.  The reg season matchup 13 seconds year that we held them to 20 tre white played 

Edited 6 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Straight Hucklebuck]

32 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Yeah I kind of would like it if the Bills could run the ball down the Chiefs throats. 

 

I don't need to see inefficient chucking to a blanketed Keon Coleman. 

 

Shakir of course will be reliable, and the crosser to Hollins has hit at times this year. 

[turbo044]

23 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Im extremely worried about our defense. Offense may have to score 40.

 

Watching the ALL-22, Ravens had open guys everywhere. We are extremely lucky Lamar didn’t see them, or they dropped them.

 

Similarly, watching the Chiefs game again, Worrhy was running open everywhere. We need to do better.

we didn't aggressively pass rush Lamar when rushing 4, we "contained" rushed him.  Mahomes has been taking some sacks lately due to his tackles and his ankle injury.  We should be able to get to him.  Buffalo also made adjustments and Worthy disappeared in the last 3 quarters.  If we score 30+ I think we will be happy in the end.

[Success]

Just now, turbo044 said:

we didn't aggressively pass rush Lamar when rushing 4, we "contained" rushed him.  Mahomes has been taking some sacks lately due to his tackles and his ankle injury.  We should be able to get to him.  Buffalo also made adjustments and Worthy disappeared in the last 3 quarters.  If we score 30+ I think we will be happy in the end.

 

We really came close to getting a few more sacks against Lamar, too - but he was just so quick & elusive.  Mahomes has some of that, but nothing like Lamar, and like you said his ankle is hurt which could slow him more.

 

That front 4 is going to be huge for us. I have a lot of faith.

 

[TwoFlocksofFury]

18 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

You think we might have to score 40 to win when the Chiefs hasn't scored 31 all year 

 

Dude we played them without five or six starters last year.. they're not magically going to score 9 more points than they have all year 

 

Chiefs are going to be lucky to get 27 which would be high

I'm thinking the Chiefs break 30 for the first time this year. 

[Logic]

I've seen a fair bit of "this is the week Brady and Josh open it up!" and "Time to unleash Josh" sentiments this week.

Allow me to be the boring contrarian who says the opposite: I want to see Josh continue with his smart and efficient play and not feel like it's time to do anything crazy unless and until absolutely necessary.

Last year, in fact, he was smart and efficient ALL GAME LONG...until the biggest moment of the game on the Bills' final offensive drive, at which time he eschewed a safe option that likely would have gone for first down yardage in favor of an end zone shot. It was almost certainly the wrong decision given the moment and all its variables.

I seem to remember feeling like Spags challenged the Bills offense to be patient and smart the whole game long, and Josh answered the bell....UNTIL that play. In the biggest moment of the game, he reverted to "Favre says touchdowns!" and it cost them the game.

So...be smart, Josh. Take what the defense gives you, play within yourself, and only pull on the Superman cape if you absolutely need to.

James Cook, Ray Davis, and Ty Johnson FTW.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Yeah I kind of would like it if the Bills could run the ball down the Chiefs throats. 

 

I don't need to see inefficient chucking to a blanketed Keon Coleman. 

 

Shakir of course will be reliable, and the crosser to Hollins has hit at times this year. 

We are going to out Chiefs the Chiefs. That should be the game plan. Last week was the Chiefest win the Bills have had all season.

We might hit one big play but it is going to come down to not making mistakes. Bills offense has been the best in the league all season not making the negative plays.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

12 minutes ago, TwoFlocksofFury said:

I'm thinking the Chiefs break 30 for the first time this year. 

This might be a warm take but I don’t think they would’ve broken 30 in any of the recent playoff games without a glaring defensive injury to one of our best players.  That 13 seconds game was 21-26 well into the fourth with our dynamite cb tandem of Wallace/dane Jackson.  Last year they had Klein to dunk on but also had that unfortunate fumble through the end zone so id probably predict low to mid 20s for them if anyone better than aj played lol 

 

I’d be pretty surprised if they broke 30 this year.  They could absolutely win still but it will be because they stifled us on offense 

Edited 6 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

13 minutes ago, TwoFlocksofFury said:

I'm thinking the Chiefs break 30 for the first time this year. 

Based on?

[Dan]

48 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

The at would make great viewing and pundits would be drooling.  
 

BUT…. I hope the Bills develop a game plan that allows Josh Allen to control a balanced game that leads to a win.   
 

I imagine that get less clicks though.  

[PRBills]

30 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

WE GONNA BEAT DOWN ON THED CHIEFS! REINING PAIN DOWN ON THEIR SORRY SOU:LS> BILLS WIN BIG THIS WEEKEND!!! LET"S GOOOOOOO BABY!!!!! WEE WILL DESTROY THEM. ENJOY THE GAME BOYS CAUSE IT"S GONNA BE FUN TO WATCH!!!!!!

Butch? From the east side? Is that you? 😂

[Einstein's Dog]

9 minutes ago, Logic said:

I've seen a fair bit of "this is the week Brady and Josh open it up!" and "Time to unleash Josh" sentiments this week.

Allow me to be the boring contrarian who says the opposite: I want to see Josh continue with his smart and efficient play and not feel like it's time to do anything crazy unless and until absolutely necessary.

Last year, in fact, he was smart and efficient ALL GAME LONG...until the biggest moment of the game on the Bills' final offensive drive, at which time he eschewed a safe option that likely would have gone for first down yardage in favor of an end zone shot. It was almost certainly the wrong decision given the moment and all its variables.

I seem to remember feeling like Spags challenged the Bills offense to be patient and smart the whole game long, and Josh answered the bell....UNTIL that play. In the biggest moment of the game, he reverted to "Favre says touchdowns!" and it cost them the game.

So...be smart, Josh. Take what the defense gives you, play within yourself, and only pull on the Superman cape if you absolutely need to.

James Cook, Ray Davis, and Ty Johnson FTW.

You forgot Shakir/Knox and Kincaid!

 

I'm with you, not the week to force opening it up.  KC has had trouble with the slot and TEs, lets see what they have done to shore that up first.  Once KC starts cheating defensively on shutting down the players above, then yes, a shot to A Cooper to keep them honest seems reasonable.

 

If we get Washington in the Superbowl, then I would hope the game plan would be to just try and pulverize them from the start with offense.

[PromoTheRobot]

The Chiefs do get favorable treatment from NFL officials.

 

 

[Fan in Chicago]

4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

The Chiefs do get favorable treatment from NFL officials.

 

 

" This only means we are better coached and are more disciplined than all our opponents". 

[eball]

11 hours ago, LEBills said:

We now enter the Championship game with much more favorable tends for the Bills than those we had going into the Ravens game.

 

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To editorialize a bit: The Chiefs will not beat themselves with turnovers, and playing on the road will be difficult. The Bills offense though is well suited to take advantage of the Chiefs defense. Look for our TEs and Shakir to have a day (unless they move McDuffie inside). And look for us to control the TOP with many 3rd down conversions using Joshs running and a good rushing attack led by our 6OL formations and the RT side of our OL. If we do that, the Chiefs offense is not explosive enough to make up lost TOP. Unlike last week where we needed the Ravens to make a few mistakes, there is a clear path to victory this week if we execute cleanly

 

Thank you, sir.  Best post of the week.

 

Go Bills!!!

 

[Boatdrinks]

33 minutes ago, TwoFlocksofFury said:

I'm thinking the Chiefs break 30 for the first time this year. 

The Chiefs played a lot of games vs competition that was lesser than the Bills. 

[Buffalo4Life01]

29 minutes ago, Logic said:

I've seen a fair bit of "this is the week Brady and Josh open it up!" and "Time to unleash Josh" sentiments this week.

Allow me to be the boring contrarian who says the opposite: I want to see Josh continue with his smart and efficient play and not feel like it's time to do anything crazy unless and until absolutely necessary.

Last year, in fact, he was smart and efficient ALL GAME LONG...until the biggest moment of the game on the Bills' final offensive drive, at which time he eschewed a safe option that likely would have gone for first down yardage in favor of an end zone shot. It was almost certainly the wrong decision given the moment and all its variables.

I seem to remember feeling like Spags challenged the Bills offense to be patient and smart the whole game long, and Josh answered the bell....UNTIL that play. In the biggest moment of the game, he reverted to "Favre says touchdowns!" and it cost them the game.

So...be smart, Josh. Take what the defense gives you, play within yourself, and only pull on the Superman cape if you absolutely need to.

James Cook, Ray Davis, and Ty Johnson FTW.

I get that and this is something that has been debated until we are all blue in the face.  I still say he made the correct call to attempt the pass to Shakiir who was wide open for a walk in TD until Chris Jones dog walks his man into Allen.  Let's say that Allen ends up throwing the shorter/safer pass to Diggs that would have moved the chains but he drops it.  We would have crucified Allen for not taking the kill shot.  He was in a no win situation there and if we are going to neuter him when the opportunity arises for what is normally a fairly routine TD pass for him, what's the point of having him as our QB in the first place?

Let Josh be Josh.  He has earned the right to be aggressive when he feels the opportunity is there and I hope he has that same mindset on Sunday. 

Go Bills!!!!

[VW82]

I think this game will come down to our injuries on D and our in/ability to cover for them. Josh will figure out how to score points even if we can't run it. 

 

But if Benford can't go or isn't 100% and Milano is a step slow with the hammy, we're in trouble. People thinking Mahomes won't shred our back ups because he hasn't done that as much this year are fooling themselves. Chiefs are dangerous on O.

 

We can win another Rams or Lions game but our best bet is with a healthyish D finally standing up to these guys in the playoffs. Fingers crossed for Benford, Milano, Bishop, and Taron. That's a lot of question marks.    

Edited 5 hours ago by VW82

[Big Turk]

 

 

Wait...wasn't it the Chiefs and Len Dawson that kept the Bills out of the Super Bowl alluded to in his infamous song?  Time to exact our revenge...

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

4 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

" This only means we are better coached and are more disciplined than all our opponents". 

I’ve been seeing a lot of ‘josh flops too’ type talk as far as rtp goes and I definitely get that, but I have never in my life seen a qb slow down along the sideline and wait for a defender so that they can put themselves in position for a flop attempt like mahomes did last week.  That was straight up preposterous  

 

Flops are annoying but part of the game at the moment, sideline antics like ‘oooo am I going out of bounds? Who knows?’ is the most bush league cr*p in the game.  He does that ragdoll like he got destroyed nonsense along the sideline that’s like his vintage move 

Edited 1 hour ago by Generic_Bills_Fan