AFC Championship Game Week Thread - Bills at Chiefs

[Steptide]

I mean, how true is this.... 

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

15 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

So, Rapp out and Benford possibly out so we have to rely on Bishop and who? JaMarcus Ingram or Kaiir Elam this week? It was fun while it lasted

I’d bet my house that benford plays 

Edited 11 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[stlbills13]

Bishop just needs to not drown out there. If he can keep his head above water we will be fine. I have said this 5x already but if you can get to Mahomes and win in the run game against this weak(er) offensive line, you can cover up some deficiencies

[section122]

6 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

No data, just the eye test. For additional support to that opinion, our LBers, Safeties and CBs have 5.5 combined sacks this year. That has to be near the bottom of the league. That doesn’t take into consideration pressures or blitz rate.

 

My immediate thought to the bolded stat was no way that is true.  It is and that is kind of crazy!

 

[Johnnycage46]

17 minutes ago, Logic said:

Benford going into the weekend still limited and being listed as Questionable for the game was EXPECTED.

He wasn't going to magically clear protocol today and come off the injury report.

All indications are that he's in stage 4 of concussion protocol, and presuming there are no setbacks, I am cautiously optimistic that he will clear protocol and be active on Sunday.

Milano and Taron appear to be good to go, which is ENORMOUS news.

We may only be missing Taylor Rapp for this game. And while that's obviously not ideal, let's not forget that the Chiefs are missing their best wide receiver, Rashee Rice. Of those two players being out, I'd list Rice's absence as the biggest factor by far.

So yes, it's frustrating that we'll be missing our starting SS. I'm sure the Chiefs are frustrated that they won't have their WR1. Injuries are a part of the NFL, and being down only potentially ONE player in the AFCCG counts as a health win overall, IMO.

 

The only pushback I would give to the comparison of Rice to Rapp is that Rice has been out for most of the season, so KC has lived with it. With Rapp it's fresh and newly exploitable, which sucks.

[Goin Breakdown]

2 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I mean, how true is this.... 

 

 

I'd kick a hole in my wall

[Straight Hucklebuck]

10 minutes ago, stevewin said:

Taron will play - but the shoulder will still be concerning.  It could affect his play and very possible to aggravate it - even just reaching out with an arm.  He's gutted it out before, but sometimes there's a limit 

Yeah I mean I expect him to stay down after a play at least once in this game.

 

He always is. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I mean, how true is this.... 

 

 

lol the NFL must be absolutely dreading something like this happening which leads me to believe we’re gonna get the classic no flag game where guys get away with a ton of stuff 

[HappyDays]

This is from Joe Buscaglia's review of the Ravens game:.

 

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When the Bills played zone coverage against the Ravens, Lamar Jackson went a perfect 12-of-12 for 180 yards and two touchdowns. He added another 44 yards on four scramble opportunities. That yields a simply dominating 15 yards per attempt and with the scrambles mixed in, the Ravens averaged 14 yards per dropback.

 

When the Bills were in man coverage, Jackson completed only six passes on 13 attempts (46.2 percent), and the Ravens gained only 74 yards. On top of that, Jackson’s lone interception and both sacks — including the fumble takeaway — were when they were in man coverage. The Ravens averaged only 5.6 yards per attempt against man coverage, and factoring in the yardage lost on the sacks, they averaged only 4 yards per dropback.

 

That is almost a 10-yard difference in yards per attempt, and exactly a 10-yard difference in yards per dropback. And if that doesn’t drive the point home enough, Jackson didn’t have a single scramble against man coverage — taking out one of the prongs of his game that makes him one of the most dynamic in the NFL.

 

More man coverage this week, please. Elite QBs tear up our zone defense annually in the playoffs. KC's receivers are pretty average overall. Don't be afraid to man them up and don't be afraid to blitz Mahomes. The book on stopping their offense has changed.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I feel Like when it finally happens, it will be like when we finally got through New England. We aren’t going to sneak bye with a 23-20 win. The damn will break and we will beat KC 38-7. Like a day where they just know…no more. You don’t own us anymore and you need to go reload to beat us now. Not saying that happens Sunday. I just feel like the day we finally get through. We don’t sneak a tight one out. We leave nothing to chance and beat the wheels off them 

[Success]

I had Cole Bishop scheduled for a big year 2 leap - but it's okay if it starts this Sunday.

 

[Logic]

20 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

I don't think them missing Rashee Rice means anything. They have been missing him all season and it hasn't changed anything. The Chiefs are fully healthy for this game. They shouldn't be missing anyone

I don't think missing the best WR on your team can be discounted in terms of its impact on a game, even if he HAS been out all year.

In other words: Who would you rather face this weekend, the Chiefs WITH Rashee Rice or the Chiefs WITHOUT Rashee Rice?

Who do you think the Chiefs would rather face this weekend, the Bills WITH Khalil Shakir or the Bills WITHOUT Khalil Shakir?

I get your point, but I disagree.

 

9 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

The only pushback I would give to the comparison of Rice to Rapp is that Rice has been out for most of the season, so KC has lived with it. With Rapp it's fresh and newly exploitable, which sucks.

Fair point.

My counter argument to THAT would be that Rapp and Hamlin have both missed time this year, meaning Cam Lewis and Cole Bishop have both had to get meaningful snaps at safety. It isn't a brand new missing player, where his backup is being thrust into the starting lineup for the first time.

I'd also argue that the dropoff from Rapp to Bishop/Lewis is much smaller than, say, the dropoff from Benford to Elam/Ingram, or Johnson to Lewis (as a nickel).

But yeah...there's no way around it: Rapp being out for this game SUCKS. 

Edited 11 hours ago by Logic

[Buffalo03]

2 minutes ago, Logic said:

I don't think missing the best WR on your team can be discounted in terms of its impact on a game, even if he HAS been out all year.

In other words: Who would you rather face this weekend, the Chiefs WITH Rashee Rice or the Chiefs WITHOUT Rashee Rice?

Who do you think the Chiefs would rather face this weekend, the Bills WITH Khalil Shakir or the Bills WITHOUT Khalil Shakir?

I get your point, but I disagree.

I don't see why he should be counted when he hasn't played since week 4 and it's made no difference in the outcome of their season. They still won 15 games and made the AFC Championship game. I wouldn't even bring Rice up at this point 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I feel Like when it finally happens, it will be like when we finally got through New England. We aren’t going to sneak bye with a 23-20 win. The damn will break and we will beat KC 38-7. Like a day where they just know…no more. You don’t own us anymore and you need to go reload to beat us now. Not saying that happens Sunday. I just feel like the day we finally get through. We don’t sneak a tight one out. We leave nothing to chance and beat the wheels off them 

If we win I don’t think it’s gonna be all that close.  For once I think the most likely outcome in the trenches is we bully them a bit.  A loss is still likely if that doesn’t go as expected of course 

[Logic]

Just now, Buffalo03 said:

I don't see why he should be counted when he hasn't played since week 4 and it's made no difference in the outcome of their season. They still won 15 games and made the AFC Championship game. I wouldn't even bring Rice up at this point 

That's fine. We can agree to disagree that a team missing its WR1 isn't worth mentioning in terms of potential impact on a playoff game.

 

[Comebackkid]

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

He can tackle-  he’s just a little inconsistent.  Cam lays it all out there on every hit.  I don’t think tackling is a big problem with him- small one for sure

cant remember which game it was i watched him pretty closely....maybe the rams.   he made some plays but he bounced off just every 

tackle.   

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

I don't see why he should be counted when he hasn't played since week 4 and it's made no difference in the outcome of their season. They still won 15 games and made the AFC Championship game. I wouldn't even bring Rice up at this point 

Ehh I think it’s made a difference in their offensive metrics despite finding ways to win anyway.  Of the 40 teams that have advanced to the superbowl in the last 20 years, only 5 have had a regular season net points under 60. 
 

Hopkins has helped but I don’t think he’s been as smooth of a fit as rice is 

Edited 11 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Buffalo03]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

That's fine. We can agree to disagree that a team missing its WR1 isn't worth mentioning in terms of potential impact on a playoff game.

 

They have beaten good teams all season. Why would the fact this game has "playoff" in front of it matter as far as a guy that hasn't played since week 4 would have any impact?

Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Ehh I think it’s made a difference in their offensive metrics despite finding ways to win anyway.  Of the 40 teams that have advanced to the superbowl in the last 20 years, only 5 have had a regular season net points under 60. 
 

Hopkins has helped but I don’t think he’s been as smooth of a fit as rice is 

They were finding ways to win in the 4 games Rice played lol. They still never scored 30 points in the 4 games he played

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said:

They have beaten good teams all season. Why would the fact this game has "playoff" in front of it matter as far as a guy that hasn't played since week 4 would have any impact?

how bad would you feel if rice were coming back for this game?

because that's how good you should feel that he's out

[Buffalo03]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

how bad would you feel if rice were coming back for this game?

because that's how good you should feel that he's out

It wouldn't matter to me because their offense wasn't all that much better when he played the first 4 games. They still struggled to win games

9 minutes ago, Logic said:

That's fine. We can agree to disagree that a team missing its WR1 isn't worth mentioning in terms of potential impact on a playoff game.

 

Don't you think Hollywood Brown is good enough to be their WR 1?