AFC Championship Game Week Thread - Bills at Chiefs

[90sBills]

3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

But it’s not at a neutral site ? It’s at KC so they are clearly the favourites ,,,

No chance that the media won’t be pumping up the Chiefs all week

Yeah it’s at KC. The number 1 seed in the conference. And the line is only 1.5. That’s the disrespect.

 

As for the media pumping KC…not sure how much media you consume. For me it’s a lot. Even going into last weekend’s divisional game many talking heads were saying the Texans would upset KC. That KC’s line was vulnerable to Houston’s vaunted pass rush etc. And since that game it’s been Houston could’ve won if not for bad calls. I don’t think that narrative would suddenly switch to KC is great and Bills have no chance in the next few days. 

[Beck Water]

48 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Dreading the injury update. I don't like the mystery on Milano at all. Benford and Milano were the MVPs of the Ravens game. 

 

Gotta put in a word for my guy Bernard.

 

If you watch the Cover1 piece on the D, they don't mention it, but Bernard is all over the place before the snap, re-aligning the players.

 

There's no question in my mind that Terrell Bernard is the beat of the Bills defensive heart.

 

And Jesus Christ, where were the officials?  Ravens OL was clotheslining our DTs all day.  Ed Oliver and BigJ musta had ropeburns on their necks after the game.

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Beck Water

[Aussie Joe]

1 minute ago, 90sBills said:

Yeah it’s at KC. The number 1 seed in the conference. And the line is only 1.5. That’s the disrespect.

 

As for the media pumping KC…not sure how much media you consume. For me it’s a lot. Even going into last weekend’s divisional game many talking heads were saying the Texans would upset KC. That KC’s line was vulnerable to Houston’s vaunted pass rush etc. And since that game it’s been Houston could’ve won if not for bad calls. I don’t think that narrative would suddenly switch to KC is great and Bills have no chance in the next few days. 

The line is 2 at plenty of places …that’s about on par with the Home Ground advantage these days ….

 

I consume plenty of media too … I saw a lot saying KC would win easily last week …. And they did  to be fair …they were never losing that game 

 

 

[zow2]

I'm concerned about Worthy.  He's going to get behind our guys.  Mahomes missed him on a bomb TD by like half yard vs Houston.  I think he just missed him on a bomb in our game.  They are going to connect one of these times.  The Chiefs offense has been a little off most of the season but they have some guys.

[YoloinOhio]

16 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Yeah it’s at KC. The number 1 seed in the conference. And the line is only 1.5. That’s the disrespect.

 

As for the media pumping KC…not sure how much media you consume. For me it’s a lot. Even going into last weekend’s divisional game many talking heads were saying the Texans would upset KC. That KC’s line was vulnerable to Houston’s vaunted pass rush etc. And since that game it’s been Houston could’ve won if not for bad calls. I don’t think that narrative would suddenly switch to KC is great and Bills have no chance in the next few days. 

I mean that’s not really disrespect, they are playing the 2 seed who just beat them two months ago. 

[Dan]

2 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

How many times have two playoff teams played eachother 4 times in a 5 year span out of curiosity.  just the collision course these two teams are on every year feels historic before you even get to results 

 

I just am so sick of it always being the Chiefs in the playoffs that we have to get through!  It's like the groundhog day movie.  Just beat this F'in team and get past this.   I'm sure it’s been mentioned, and I missed it, but it’s even bizarre that this is nearly the same scenario we had in last championship game appearance.  We had a marginal WC team at home, beat a good Ravens team.. and have to beat the Chiefs in KC.   That was a younger, less experienced Bills team.  I think we're primed and ready to roll this year.

 

 

2 hours ago, billieve420 said:

I feel if the offense can put up 30+ points they have very high percentage of winning the game. After strong first half this past weekend, the offense went into a shell and game was closer than it should have been.

 

Defense just needs to make enough play to keep team in game and have hard time envisioning this iteration of the Chiefs scoring more than 30 points in this game. So for me this game begins and ends with the offense.

if we score 30+ points, we dam well better win the game!  You think people are screaming for McD to be replaced now… let the offense s ore 301 points and lose the game!   
 

All I can say is this is it.  There should be no holding back.  This is the game you play if you're hurt. You use the super secret plays you've been practicing all year.  You never take your foot off the pedal because you may see them again.   This is the game you give them absolutely everything you've got and a lot they've never seen before.   Just get it frigggin done!

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Yea I think we swapped them in because they were fresh and fresh did not outrank talent in that moment haha watchin Baltimore pancake the entire dline was wild.  A couple of those plays there wasn’t even a passrusher standing 😂

somehow it sort of worked out accidentally because I don’t think we were stopping them in 4 down territory and they scored so fast there was plenty of time left for our offense 

I got a few thoughts about hoe the game ended:  if you drop 8 guys into coverage… they should never be as wide open as those ravens players were!  You can't tell from the tv view.. but I can only imagine the Bills defenders all just stood in some zone and watched the ravens players run around.  
 

My pet theory is that McD didn't let them score, but kinda didn't play aggressive because he wanted more time on the clock if they scored.  Knowing that it takes a TD and a 2 pt conversion, just to tie the game.  It was a luxury you can consider.    
 

And along that line of reasoning, if that was the idea, was he pulling starters after the 2 min warning so they'd be better rested for an overtime, if we missed the game winning FG try?   4D chess!   LOL

[90sBills]

1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:

The line is 2 at plenty of places …that’s about on par with the Home Ground advantage these days ….

 

I consume plenty of media too … I saw a lot saying KC would win easily last week …. And they did  to be fair …they were never losing that game 

 

 

It has jumped to 2 because of public money since it has opened. Not sure how that changed my initial point. Majority of the media has criticized them all year and that has provided Reid with a disrespected platform that he can use to motivate his team. Which, as a good coach, he should be doing. 
 

I’m not sure what media you saw but I didn’t see anyone mainstream saying ‘KC would win easily’ last week. It would discourage the casual fans from watching the actual games. So they always go with hot takes and say that whatever teams would have a shot. Couple that general sentiment with the feeling that almost everyone is sick of KC’s success and you’re gonna get more love for their opponents.

 

That narrative trend will continue this week imo. 

 

 

[Dukestreetking]

17 hours ago, Harold Jackson said:

Where's the doom and gloom part? This assumes a emotional connection to the outcome.

 

I'm gonna go against the board, and say that your posts--all of which I've read--are legitimately interesting. Actually enjoy reading, tbh.

 

But the bolded above is a non-sequitur, esp in context. Or cleverly professorial, or even monkish, at the very least.

I mean, why be vested in anything (here, the Bills) if one has no "emotional connection".

Anyway, let's not get into a to and fro. Honestly, I don't want that for the group. 

 

Point of personal privilege though...

 

As someone who was/is a clever professor, but who spent 10+ years in the (recent) wars: 

Sometimes, ya gotta absolutely--no sh*t, right goddamn now--pick your side, and start slitting fuc*king throats.

 

 @hondo in seattle and others probably know what I'm talking about.

 

So, I'm gonna stand w my brothers (and muppy) and slit fuc*king KC throats.

 

(But...I'm fine w disagreement, he said sheepishly)

[Simon]

19 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

Gotta put in a word for my guy Bernard.

 

Hate to say it, but I thought he arguably had his worst game in a Bills uniform on Sunday.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

3 hours ago, YattaOkasan said:

I got 4 for 23 with 2 TDs and 2 more first downs from pro football reference (care to link yours). “Big Day” was maybe hyperbolic but he was important to them maintaining and finishing drives. Worthy seemed to be focus of their explosive plays. 

 

Yes it's on ESPN Chiefs/Texans box score.  https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401671884

Edited 12 hours ago by BuffaloBillsGospel2014

[90sBills]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

I mean that’s not really disrespect, they are playing the 2 seed who just beat them two months ago. 

It is if you’re the coach of the team. Which is what Reid was doing, rightly so. If the line had been KC -4 McD would have a great talk point for the Bills.

 

For me it’s a fair line. But from a gambling perspective I wish it was Bills +3 or +4. That way the ML would be a little extra when I bet.  

[Success]

The Chiefs are to us like the Patriots were to Manning's Colts, or the Pistons were to Jordan's Bulls. 

 

Narratives were established that one team just couldn't get past the other - until they did.  We have an excellent chance to flip the script on Sunday.  This KC team is not as dominant as KC teams from the past.  They're not better than the Bills - they have homefield, but they don't have any significant advantage in talent.  

 

I feel confident that McDermott will have a gameplan for the ages on this one, and that we finally prevail.

 

Edited 12 hours ago by Success

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

41 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

According to Vegas oddsmakers KC would be underdogs at a neutral site. So Reid isn’t wrong for saying that.

 

With how the media has treated KC this whole season I wouldn’t be surprised if the narrative would lean towards the Bills this week.

Unless they have decided to play at a neutral site, Reid is wrong.

[Aussie Joe]

3 minutes ago, Success said:

The Chiefs are to us like the Patriots were to Manning's Colts, or the Pistons were to Jordan's Bulls. 

 

Narratives were established that one team just couldn't get past the other - until they did.  We have an excellent chance to flip the script on Sunday.  This KC team is not as dominant as KC teams from the past.  They're not better than the Bills - they have homefield, but they don't have any significant advantage in talent.  

 

I feel confident that McDermott will have a gameplan for the ages on this one, and that we finally prevail.

 

Will the Bills need to improve on what they showed last week to win , is the question I’ve been reflecting on … I think so … the Chiefs won’t be spotting you +3 on the turnovers , and Kelce won’t be spilling his lollies like Andrew’s did…

 

 

[PaattMaann]

6 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Will the Bills need to improve on what they showed last week to win , is the question I’ve been reflecting on … I think so … the Chiefs won’t be spotting you +3 on the turnovers , and Kelce won’t be spilling his lollies like Andrew’s did…

 

 

 

week to week league. You don't improve on what you show from one week to another because every matchup is completely different. Game plans, how the game unfolds, execution...

 

Also why you can't draw conclusions based on past results, none of that matters. You have other teams tendencies and tape, build a game plan around that and make adjustments as the game unfolds. Talent, scheme, execution and a little bit of luck determine outcomes.

Edited 12 hours ago by PaattMaann

[Beck Water]

21 minutes ago, Simon said:

Hate to say it, but I thought he arguably had his worst game in a Bills uniform on Sunday.

 

Say more.  I assume you have some basis for this?

Edited 12 hours ago by Beck Water

[Success]

7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Will the Bills need to improve on what they showed last week to win , is the question I’ve been reflecting on … I think so … the Chiefs won’t be spotting you +3 on the turnovers , and Kelce won’t be spilling his lollies like Andrew’s did…

 

 

 

For sure - I think we'll see a whole different gameplan.  I think they open it up a lot more; Allen will have 30+ passing attempts and I'd guess a few more designed runs.

 

[SCBills]

33 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I'm concerned about Worthy.  He's going to get behind our guys.  Mahomes missed him on a bomb TD by like half yard vs Houston.  I think he just missed him on a bomb in our game.  They are going to connect one of these times.  The Chiefs offense has been a little off most of the season but they have some guys.

 

Same concern for me.. Worthy and Brown. 

 

Douglas on either one of them is a tricky proposition and we're currently having to hope Rapp and/or Benford can go. 

 

Baltimore was always the bigger challenge for our Defense, but Pacheco, Hopkins, Brown, Worthy, Gray and Playoff Kelce is a legit group of weapons for Mahomes when we know his OL is going to be able to hold & false start all game. 

[RiotAct]

28 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Hate to say it, but I thought he arguably had his worst game in a Bills uniform on Sunday.

that forced fumble was a thing of beauty though 

[Mat68]

21 minutes ago, Success said:

The Chiefs are to us like the Patriots were to Manning's Colts, or the Pistons were to Jordan's Bulls. 

 

Narratives were established that one team just couldn't get past the other - until they did.  We have an excellent chance to flip the script on Sunday.  This KC team is not as dominant as KC teams from the past.  They're not better than the Bills - they have homefield, but they don't have any significant advantage in talent.  

 

I feel confident that McDermott will have a gameplan for the ages on this one, and that we finally prevail.

 

I think its very much Bulls v Pistons.  Allen and Buffalo wins.  He takes the lead in the head to head match up.  If they win it all.  Allen and the Bills beat Jackson’s Ravens and Mahomes Chiefs.  Allen would be viewed as best in the sport.  Or at minimum has a very good argument.