Lopsided Ravens - Bills Box scores

[BillsFan130]

36 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

I don't understand this line of thinking. Every one of their turnovers was caused by something that our D was doing. This was not a Goff interception where the ball was thrown to the wrong uniform with little pressure. 

The Ravens did not give away the game. The Bills D caused the errors. Exhibit #1 is the Bernard perfect punch out. At game speed, open field, to make that accurate punch is spectacular. 

My overall point is the ravens outplayed them, and it took 3 turnovers to win the game by 2 points , and from a drop by Andrews.

I'm as thrilled as anyone with the win.

But Im getting crucified for saying the ravens were the better team lol- I thought pretty objectively they were as the yards were like 420 to 270.

They made a few massive mistakes. Bills did enough to hang on which is fantastic.

Now onto KC 

[Dafan]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

My overall point is the ravens outplayed them, and it took 3 turnovers to win the game by 2 points , and from a drop by Andrews.

I'm as thrilled as anyone with the win.

But Im getting crucified for saying the ravens were the better team lol- I thought pretty objectively they were as the yards were like 420 to 270.

They made a few massive mistakes. Bills did enough to hang on which is fantastic.

Now onto KC 

They made one mistake...Andrew's dropping on the 2pt.  Why can ppl not give the defense credit for forcing turnovers?  

[Straight Hucklebuck]

4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

My overall point is the ravens outplayed them, and it took 3 turnovers to win the game by 2 points , and from a drop by Andrews.

I'm as thrilled as anyone with the win.

But Im getting crucified for saying the ravens were the better team lol- I thought pretty objectively they were as the yards were like 420 to 270.

They made a few massive mistakes. Bills did enough to hang on which is fantastic.

Now onto KC 

I think the Bills outplayed the Ravens in the 1st-Half. 
 

The Bills capitalized on turnovers and the one drive was killed because of a horrendous holding call on Dawkins.

 

You could feel it in the stadium, the energy from the offense was down in the 2nd-Half. 

[SoCal Deek]

I didn’t read through every response here but what shocked me was that the Bills were flagged for ONE penalty. Yep….the Dawkins phantom holding call. 

[NewEra]

9 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

You could say the same things about Houston beating KC badly:

 

Except Houston had zero turnovers.  

[Mikie2times]

5 minutes ago, Dafan said:

They made one mistake...Andrew's dropping on the 2pt.  Why can ppl not give the defense credit for forcing turnovers?  

They get credit, but they're high variance events. Do we win the turnover battle 3-0 if we played again? Likely not. Do we win if we don't win the turnover battle 3-0? Likely not. Does that matter? Not in this game, we won, move on. Could it matter in forecasting future performance, sure. 

[dave mcbride]

8 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

The Bills felt like they went 4-wide more to tonight, but there were no shots deep after that first one to Hollins.

 

Kincaid continues to be invisible.

 

Tunnel screens again.

 

Even our backs didn’t get much work tonight. 

Allen hit Shakir on a 34-yard deep throw two plays after the Hollins miss.

[SoonerBillsFan]

10 hours ago, Beast said:

Whatever.

 

The Bills coaching staff became way too conservative on both sides of the ball in the second half. I was very surprised by that. I hope they learned their lesson because the Bills should have won this game by at least 2 scores.

 

 

McDermott does it all the time. He doesn't have a killer instinct. 

[zow2]

all the teams that won this weekend were outgained, some handily.  The losing clubs made the mistakes. Philadelphia only had 65 yards passing.  I think the mistakes hurt a team a lot more than the flashy plays help.  it’s a hard balance.

[BillsFan130]

42 minutes ago, Dafan said:

They made one mistake...Andrew's dropping on the 2pt.  Why can ppl not give the defense credit for forcing turnovers?  

I am giving the defence credit for making plays. The bigger question is- Why can't people acknowledge that Baltimore out played the bills?

 

Its ok to say that and still Be thrilled with the win.

KC gets out played in like 70 percent of their wins lol

[Fan in Chicago]

47 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

My overall point is the ravens outplayed them, and it took 3 turnovers to win the game by 2 points , and from a drop by Andrews.

I'm as thrilled as anyone with the win.

But Im getting crucified for saying the ravens were the better team lol- I thought pretty objectively they were as the yards were like 420 to 270.

They made a few massive mistakes. Bills did enough to hang on which is fantastic.

Now onto KC 

Again, the Ravens outplayed us in certain areas but we won which means we outplayed them overall. You should rightfully draw flak for your position. 

I did not like the play calling at all on O in the 3rd quarter but am very confident that Allen would have aired it out in the 4th quarter if it became critical to win the game. This was a very good defense we won against but we played better in the cold conditions. Period. 

[T master]

10 hours ago, Beast said:

Whatever.

 

The Bills coaching staff became way too conservative on both sides of the ball in the second half. I was very surprised by that. I hope they learned their lesson because the Bills should have won this game by at least 2 scores.

 

 

 

I think in part some of the adjustments that the Ravens made had a bit to do with it . They ran a lot more of their big package too which helped them especially in the run game & i also noticed they weren't allowing Millano as much freedom they had someone engage him so he couldn't have a free rush to the ball carrier .

 

Harbaugh is a really good coach and so is his staff, just like McD and the Bills coaches (although some here don't like to give out any atta boys) the Ravens made adjustments which helped but wasn't enough .

[zow2]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

I am giving the defence credit for making plays. The bigger question is- Why can't people acknowledge that Baltimore out played the bills?

 

Its ok to say that and still Be thrilled with the win.

KC gets out played in like 70 percent of their wins lol

 

I agree.  and that's why i keep saying the Bills game plan the past two weeks is mimic'ing the KC Chiefs.  They are playing football, not doing anything super risky, allowing the other team to make the dumb mistakes, and capitalizing on them.  

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

9 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Allen hit Shakir on a 34-yard deep throw two plays after the Hollins miss.

That’s right. 

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Fan in Chicago said:

Again, the Ravens outplayed us in certain areas but we won which means we outplayed them overall. You should rightfully draw flak for your position. 

I did not like the play calling at all on O in the 3rd quarter but am very confident that Allen would have aired it out in the 4th quarter if it became critical to win the game. This was a very good defense we won against but we played better in the cold conditions. Period. 

So you are basically saying every time a team wins, they automatically outplay the other team? 

[Fan in Chicago]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

So you are basically saying every time a team wins, they automatically outplay the other team? 

Yes, the result matters. Would anyone say that the Bills outplayed the Chiefs in the 13 second game?

[The Jokeman]

10 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

turnovers are a B word. MV3 though amirite?

but Lamar doesn't turn the ball over. I was sick of hearing that narrative going into the game as fumbles are turnovers too as we saw yesterday. 

Edited 23 hours ago by The Jokeman

[Mikie2times]

2 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Again, the Ravens outplayed us in certain areas but we won which means we outplayed them overall. You should rightfully draw flak for your position. 

I did not like the play calling at all on O in the 3rd quarter but am very confident that Allen would have aired it out in the 4th quarter if it became critical to win the game. This was a very good defense we won against but we played better in the cold conditions. Period. 

Totally disagree with this. 

 

This shows first downs, yards, and yards per play for yesterdays game along with our last 3 playoff losses. If you have any idea based on that which games we crucified McD for and the one we are now celebrating, more power to you. We played a great first half then went onto put out a mirror image of the Texans playoff loss in the 2nd half. Tight on offense with the defense falling apart. Massive win for us, but as I have said in previous threads, not really sure how you say, great Scott! it is all different now! We can play playoff defense! 

 

 

 

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

The ravens shot themselves in the foot. If you want to make the argument that the ravens lost the game with mistakes , fine.

 

"Before you can figure out how you are going to win the game, you first have to figure out how not to lose it. Most games aren't won, they are lost."

 

-Bill Belichick

14 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I am giving the defence credit for making plays. The bigger question is- Why can't people acknowledge that Baltimore out played the bills?

 

Its ok to say that and still Be thrilled with the win.

KC gets out played in like 70 percent of their wins lol

 

The Bills controlled the game. Baltimore led for under 6 minutes early in the first quarter and then never led again the entire game and were never even tied after the Bills went up 14-7.

 

Edited 23 hours ago by Big Turk

[Orlando Buffalo]

We won the first half decisively, the Ravens won the second half almost as much. The score was indicative of the overall game. Anyone saying the yardage is a good indicator of the game is wrong.