Mikie2times Posted Monday at 05:14 AM Posted Monday at 05:14 AM (edited) 12 minutes ago, Big Turk said: If you turn the ball over are you really the better team? I think it would be a bit absurd to say whoever loses the turnover battle in a single event is somehow better or worse. We have a high propensity for generating turnovers. It is part of the McD way. It's still a fairly volatile outcome over the long term. You would like to be able to be good enough to win without turnovers. I don't believe we would have been good enough today. We have some holes and our defense looked very playoff like in the 2nd half. But at the end of the day we have 2 more games. We match up decent with KC and I would roll the dice with any NFC team. So pretty incredible, we have a legit shot even in not being perfect. Edited Monday at 05:15 AM by Mikie2times Quote
Nelius Posted Monday at 05:16 AM Posted Monday at 05:16 AM Let your hair out Mike they beat the Ravens ffs 2 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted Monday at 05:18 AM Posted Monday at 05:18 AM The Bills felt like they went 4-wide more to tonight, but there were no shots deep after that first one to Hollins. Kincaid continues to be invisible. Tunnel screens again. Even our backs didn’t get much work tonight. 2 Quote
Mikie2times Posted Monday at 05:19 AM Posted Monday at 05:19 AM (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nelius said: Let your hair out Mike they beat the Ravens ffs I'm actually rather happy my dude. It was a huge win. Only two more. I have no hair, that's why I'm so F'n miserable. Edited Monday at 05:20 AM by Mikie2times 3 Quote
djp14150 Posted Monday at 05:20 AM Posted Monday at 05:20 AM 1 hour ago, PoundingDog said: If you just look at that, you would say the Ravens win handlily Then you see the turnover below: Turnover is critical between quality teams in the playoffs. We saw last night in Detroit as well. I am also very encouraged by the Bills rushing yards, out-pacing the passing yards. Remember Ravens has the #1 run defense. In January football, you need to be able to run the ball and we do have it now. Now they do need to pick up the passing game some heading into KC. by possession….. balt TD 73 yds Bills TD 70 yds balt INT -1 bills punt 4 balt fumble 54 bills TD 24 ( missing fumble return yardage) balt FG 57 Bills TD 70 ——— balt net gain 15 yds Buf punt 1 BAL FG 54 BUF punt 18 BAL TD 80 BUF FG 37 BAL fumble 26 BUF FG 52 BAL TD 88( most of this drive was passing) Quote
JohnNord Posted Monday at 05:21 AM Posted Monday at 05:21 AM 1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Felt like we played conservatively on offense. Had we pushed the ball down field more we would have most likely had more yards but maybe one or two more turnovers. Was better to play the conservative ball control game this game given we had a a lead for most of the game. What concerns me is the possibly of Bills WR’s not getting open downfield. I’m waiting to hear what Joe Marino says Quote
ganesh Posted Monday at 05:21 AM Posted Monday at 05:21 AM 48 minutes ago, JoshAllin said: The last drive prevents are killer. They gave up huge chunk plays, if you're gonna give huge chunk plays then let them get it by blitzing and not giving Lamar all day to throw. they did try to blitz and pressure the QB on that last drive...but couldn't get to Lamar. Quote
Nelius Posted Monday at 05:22 AM Posted Monday at 05:22 AM 1 minute ago, Mikie2times said: I'm actually rather happy my dude. It was a huge win. Only two more. I have no hair, that's why I'm so F'n miserable. I don’t either but lean on this guy named Jason Statham for confidence. You got this my bald brother. Big win! 1 Quote
djp14150 Posted Monday at 05:24 AM Posted Monday at 05:24 AM 2 minutes ago, ganesh said: they did try to blitz and pressure the QB on that last drive...but couldn't get to Lamar. I’d have to se all 22. I think they had a spy on lamar near the line Quote
Big Turk Posted Monday at 05:52 AM Posted Monday at 05:52 AM 36 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: I think it would be a bit absurd to say whoever loses the turnover battle in a single event is somehow better or worse. We have a high propensity for generating turnovers. It is part of the McD way. It's still a fairly volatile outcome over the long term. You would like to be able to be good enough to win without turnovers. I don't believe we would have been good enough today. We have some holes and our defense looked very playoff like in the 2nd half. But at the end of the day we have 2 more games. We match up decent with KC and I would roll the dice with any NFC team. So pretty incredible, we have a legit shot even in not being perfect. Maybe, maybe not, but I doubt we would have been so conservative offensively either in that scenario. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted Monday at 05:54 AM Posted Monday at 05:54 AM All 4 games the team with more yardage lost in the divisional round. Kind of crazy but Turnovers and sacks will do that 1 Quote
iccrewman112 Posted Monday at 05:58 AM Posted Monday at 05:58 AM 2 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: Turnovers were the difference. agreed. I consider the 3 and outs in the playoffs as basically a turnover. So that first possession of the 2nd half for the bills. Quote
pigpen65 Posted Monday at 06:05 AM Posted Monday at 06:05 AM (edited) Lamar very careless with the ball. He cost them the game. Edited Monday at 06:06 AM by pigpen65 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted Monday at 12:26 PM Posted Monday at 12:26 PM 7 hours ago, Big Turk said: If you turn the ball over are you really the better team? The ravens shot themselves in the foot. If you want to make the argument that the ravens lost the game with mistakes , fine. Quote
skibum Posted Monday at 12:34 PM Posted Monday at 12:34 PM Bills also won the TFL battle 7-3, plus time of possession. Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted Monday at 12:44 PM Posted Monday at 12:44 PM (edited) 7 hours ago, JohnNord said: What concerns me is the possibly of Bills WR’s not getting open downfield. I’m waiting to hear what Joe Marino says It’s concerning how stagnant this passing game can suddenly look. It’s been a theme all year that this everyone eats looks alot like everyone snacks, everyone nibbles at times. You’re playing the Divisional Round and the WR your GM gave a third round pick for has a 4-yard out attempt and that’s it. In the moment, being at the game, I screamed until my voice is gone, but I do hope Brady gets asked about how erratic this pass game is. There has been no progression for Coleman - he’s a jump baller only now, Cooper doesn’t even run go-routes anymore. I don’t know - Kansas City is right there for the taking and somehow this team lives off turnovers and James Cook runs and is able to win. Edited Monday at 01:19 PM by Straight Hucklebuck Quote
Sweats Posted Monday at 12:44 PM Posted Monday at 12:44 PM 8 hours ago, Beast said: Whatever. The Bills coaching staff became way too conservative on both sides of the ball in the second half. I was very surprised by that. I hope they learned their lesson because the Bills should have won this game by at least 2 scores. I agree. We had the chance to put the game away in the 3rd right after halftime and we let the Ravens hang around. The biggest thing i saw was that even though the Ravens had 3 TO's, they were within a 2-point conversion of tying it up in the 4th. We should have been leading by at least 2 scores by then and at the point of just running the ball to chew up clock. We've got some things to clean up before the KC game cause they rarely turn the ball over. It'll be interesting. 2 Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted Monday at 12:51 PM Posted Monday at 12:51 PM 22 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: The ravens shot themselves in the foot. If you want to make the argument that the ravens lost the game with mistakes , fine. I don't understand this line of thinking. Every one of their turnovers was caused by something that our D was doing. This was not a Goff interception where the ball was thrown to the wrong uniform with little pressure. The Ravens did not give away the game. The Bills D caused the errors. Exhibit #1 is the Bernard perfect punch out. At game speed, open field, to make that accurate punch is spectacular. Quote
peterpan Posted Monday at 12:58 PM Posted Monday at 12:58 PM 8 hours ago, zow2 said: The running and being conservative is obviously intentional. They ran 44 times vs Denver and 35 times tonight. They weren’t really looking to push the ball way downfield much in either game. Run the ball, get takeaways, No giveaways, Move the chains, Score a few TDs, Make your FGs. Dont be risky with the football and throw it recklessly o That is a great gameplan for teams with game manager or rookie QBs. We happen to have the best qb in the nfl. Now our best pass catcher may be our third string running back but still, I think we should open up the passing game some. Quote
Mikie2times Posted Monday at 01:09 PM Posted Monday at 01:09 PM 12 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: I don't understand this line of thinking. Every one of their turnovers was caused by something that our D was doing. This was not a Goff interception where the ball was thrown to the wrong uniform with little pressure. The Ravens did not give away the game. The Bills D caused the errors. Exhibit #1 is the Bernard perfect punch out. At game speed, open field, to make that accurate punch is spectacular. The point is can we play at a level without turnovers to win games like this? I would argue no, but maybe it doesn’t matter. This team is likely going to keep protecting the ball and we can usually get a couple to go our way. Sort of a McD calling card. The Carolina defense he had in the Super Bowl did eventually come up dry and they lost. If you want to live and die with turnovers it’s going to be a bumpy road usually. But here we are, only two games left, this team isn’t perfect, defense is a big issue, but it doesn’t really matter at this point. Just win baby. 1 Quote
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