Lets talk complementary football and the 2nd half

[zevo]

13 minutes ago, BidsJr said:

McDermott took the ball out of Allen’s hands and almost lost the game.  That is unforgivable.

how do you know this?

[4merper4mer]

14 minutes ago, BidsJr said:

McDermott took the ball out of Allen’s hands and almost lost the game.  That is unforgivable.

Let’s almost lose twice more and maybe you’ll be in a forgiving mood.

[PBF81]

14 minutes ago, BidsJr said:

McDermott took the ball out of Allen’s hands and almost lost the game.  That is unforgivable.

 

Was it ever in Allen's hands, the game that is?  

 

He went 16 of 22 for 127, 0 passing TDs.  

 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Just now, NoSaint said:

but even early in drives in the 3rd quarter? 
 

Did he have zero carries and maybe 10 air yards passing in the first 20 minutes after halftime? I’m sure I’m forgetting some plays but generally…. We can’t say Josh is the mvp because he doesn’t have the talent around him and then make the choice to contain him in the backfield and put all the pressure on the other guys to make a play. 
 

I’ll buy that in September to preserve health but in January he’s got to be bigger in putting the nail in the coffin instead of bleeding clock with other guys taking the hits for him

Agreed. I misunderstood your prior post (thought it was about the lack of a sneak on the goal line). 
 

If Brady had a do-over, I am guessing he would have sprinkled in some more aggressive first down plays; we never tested their outside corners, and I think there were huge plays to be had on the outside. Also, he could have used Davis more in the run game. 

[UConn James]

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So I didn;t at first love the 2nd half strategy...byt when I looked at them having just FOUR possesions, and the defense forcing a FG? That's just great game management. 

The defense forcing the FG is not game management. That’s mostly luck, especially how they were running all over us in the second half.
 

You only really truly have anything like control when on O. On D, it’s your guys reacting.

 

Not doing a couple of sneaks from the 1 / 1.5 was stupidity. There was no need for Brady to get cute there. Cook wasn’t getting anything in the 3rd.

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[Doc Brown]

16 minutes ago, appoo said:

I think you can only challenge a spot on whether its a first down or not

It would terrify me if McDermott thought that too.

[reddogblitz]

20 minutes ago, Dr Krentist said:

 

My only gripe is that the game could have been done if they tush pushed twice to make it a two possession game.

 

That might have worked. We'll never know. But what we do know for certain is what Coach McDermott did worked.  Bring on KC.

[That's No Moon]

4 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

Was it ever in Allen's hands, the game that is?  

 

He went 16 of 22 for 127, 0 passing TDs.  

 

 

They won the game against a great team without having to ask Allen to win it. That should excite all of you tremendously.

[appoo]

2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

It would terrify me if McDermott thought that too.

https://operations.nfl.com/officiating/instant-replay/replay-assistance-rule/

 

[Beast]

It was garbage by the coaching staff.

 

The Bills had a chance to take an 18 point lead but the coaching staff played conservative ball all second half. The Bills won today, IMO, in spite of their coaching staff hamstringing the team.

 

You have a chance to drive a stake through Dracula’s heart in the playoffs you better damned well do it.

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[PBF81]

1 minute ago, That's No Moon said:

They won the game against a great team without having to ask Allen to win it. That should excite all of you tremendously.

 

Since we won, but it came down to the wire.  Had we lost everyone's sentiment would be entirely different.  

 

Besides, I was commenting on BidsJr.'s comment that McD took the ball out of Allen's hands at the end of the game.  The point is that was never really in his hands per se.  

 

That was the third fewest Attempts he's had all season.  (SF, @Miami) 

It's one of three without a passing TD.  (@ Balt, @Indy)  

 

 

[That's No Moon]

Just now, PBF81 said:

 

Since we won, but it came down to the wire.  Had we lost everyone's sentiment would be entirely different.  

 

Besides, I was commenting on BidsJr.'s comment that McD took the ball out of Allen's hands at the end of the game.  The point is that was never really in his hands per se.  

 

That was the third fewest Attempts he's had all season.  (SF, @Miami) 

It's one of three without a passing TD.  (@ Balt, @Indy)  

 

 

They were in control of that game the entire time.  Even if Andrews catches the ball they are handing it to Allen with a minute twenty and 2 TOs.  No shot they don't get a FG. No shot.

[LABILLBACKER]

Sorry but no one can convince me that Brady didn't crap the bed in the 2nd half.  Especially in the 3rd quarter.  What's the point of double dipping if your OC crawls into a conservative hole.  The defense wasn't perfect but the importance of "take-aways" that Sean has instilled in his guys has been absolutely brilliant.  It saved us today.  Brady figure it out between interviews. 

Edited 5 hours ago by LABILLBACKER

[Maine-iac]

Not counting Josh, the Bill's RB's had 26 rushes for 127 yards vs the Ravens.  The Ravens made a few stops in the second half but we still sprinkled in some really nice runs even though we got stuffed a few times.  Cook and Johnson both had 8 yard runs on the last FG drive.

[colin]

I think we were good and also lucky to get trucked statistically like we did and still win.

 

Our d is simply not staffed or coached to stop the ravens, few teams are.  There was a bit of room to be better there (blitz edge guys not up the gut, we suck so bad at inside blitzes) but frankly not much.

 

On O Brady lost his flipping mind in the second half.  The ravens knew what we were going to do based on our personnel and formation nearly every time.  We did almost nothing to stress the defense, we just let them bully us near the Los and played weak small ball.  Brady simply does not have is do anything to outside wrs.  What bothers me is if he's gonna not do that, then passes to RBs (we did like 4 and they were very effective) and play action or roll outs or something but not an obvious cool hand off on 1st was needed.

 

Ty was covered and accounted for approximately zero times all game, Baltimore sucks covering backs, how Brady can't figure that vs his trash screens is baffling to me.  A single TD on either of the first two 3rd quarter drives ice's the game for us, he has Allen but runs plays like he has Chicago's QB and ol

 

 

Nearly the worst half of football I've seen from Brady, he better flip that script hard

[GolfandBills]

The ravens are good.  I figured they’d make a run at us.  Enjoy the win

13 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Sorry but no one can convince me that Brady didn't crap the bed in the 2nd half.  

Ravens had good adjustments that we struggled to counter.  They are a good well coached team.  

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

I don’t think Brady called a game that accounted for the fact that he has the best player in the NFL.  Josh hit Shakir on that huge 3rd and 8 on the opening possession and then didn’t go downfield again except for the DPI against Coleman.

[TheBrownBear]

I think you're right.  The first drive of the 2nd half was killed by Kincaid's drop.  I don't have an issue with the play-calling.  I thought the second drive was a poor one, and after that I think they were trying to bleed clock and limit the Ravens' possessions.  It was clear we couldn't stop them straight up in the second half, so the strategy is shorten the game, squeak out a couple additional points and hold on for dear life. 

[TheBrownBear]

27 minutes ago, Beast said:

It was garbage by the coaching staff.

 

The Bills had a chance to take an 18 point lead but the coaching staff played conservative ball all second half. The Bills won today, IMO, in spite of their coaching staff hamstringing the team.

 

You have a chance to drive a stake through Dracula’s heart in the playoffs you better damned well do it.

Yes, but what does that mean?  The Bills were running the ball effectively the entire first half.  It would have been moronic to abandon it to start the second half.  So, they hand the ball to Cook who's stuffed, then Kincaid drops a catchable pass and you're behind the sticks and punting. The Ravens get back to doing what they do best and the script gets flipped.  The Ravens are a good team and they started executing.

[reddogblitz]

29 minutes ago, Beast said:

It was garbage by the coaching staff.

 

The Bills had a chance to take an 18 point lead but the coaching staff played conservative ball all second half. The Bills won today, IMO, in spite of their coaching staff hamstringing the team.

 

You have a chance to drive a stake through Dracula’s heart in the playoffs you better damned well do it.

 

I believe if I'm not mistaken, Dracula is flat on his back with a stake in his heart on a 747 headed back to Baltimore.

36 minutes ago, appoo said:

https://operations.nfl.com/officiating/instant-replay/replay-assistance-rule/

 

 

So does this mean we could challenge it or not? Kind of sounds like not but I am not a lawyer.