That FG Decision by McDermott

[KCNC]

It was the right call imo

[Fixxxer]

It was the right call. The offense wasn't sharp today, this game should have been decided earlier... 

[gobills404]

If Mark Andrews catches the 2 point conversion y’all would be calling it the worst decision he’s ever made.

[SinceThe70s]

11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

It was 100% the right call. If it only put them up 7 then it's different. But the calculation for me was kick go up 8 you give yourself 3 shots to win:

 

1. Stop them scoring the TD

2. Stop them scoring the 2pointer

3. Even if they score both get the ball with about 90 seconds and 2 time outs to kick a winning FG. 

 

You missed #4 imo. Take your chances in OT if 1-3 go the wrong way. The worst of the 4 but still a shot to win.

[<bills4life>]

16 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I still Hated it.

 

Needed two yards to win the game. If you don't get it, ravens need 98 yards.

It was an Andrews drop away from potentially being a disaster decision 

Exactly. Do this stupid stuff against kc and you lose.  We beat kc this year because we went for it.  If Andrews catches that 2 pointer and this easily could have been another blunder.  Happy with the win. But you play to win. Bills narrowly avoided disaster. This goes to ot I think we are singing a different tune. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

6 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I'm not worried about the KC defense having a blueprint tbh. I do need them to get Cooper involved more.

13 was over 18 on the depth chart today.  I'm thinking for his physical play.

[Ralonzo]

I found myself agreeing with McD on the critical calls in this game (evidence in the GDT). This is rare for me.

[JoshAllin]

Should not have came down to that decision. Allens sneaks have been gaining 2 yrds on each plays, they ran him instead on a designed run for a loss. Woulda been a comfortable 2 possesion lead

Edited 7 hours ago by JoshAllin

[cDAVIS]

I agree but that ball should have been placed closer, wanted him to challenge it. Also, where it was placed, do a QB sneak 2 times in a row. 95% chance to score there.

 

I am not a McDermott hater at all and his defense really stepped up, it was nice to see. 

 

Great win. Lets hope Rapp is OK but looks like he wont be. Bishop legacy game incoming...

 

[FireChans]

16 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

He doesn't call the offense.  Are you fire McDermott people brain dead?

Lmao,  McD gets credit for building the staff when they do good and and skates the blame when they gaffe.  @MJS come point out the hypocrisy.

 

[BillsFan130]

Just now, &lt;bills4life&gt; said:

Exactly. Do this stupid stuff against kc and you lose.  We beat kc this year because we went for it.  If Andrews catches that 2 pointer and this easily could have been another blunder.  Happy with the win. But you play to win. Bills narrowly avoided disaster. This goes to ot I think we are singing a different tune. 

Ya I thought Brady and McDermott were too conservative tonight.

 

You can't play to lose against KC and put it in the hands of Mahomes/ the refs 

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

13 was over 18 on the depth chart today.  I'm thinking for his physical play.

That's fine for packages or even 50%+.  But we backed KC off earlier in the year with a couple of explosives to Cooper early and that's what this offense was missing tonight imo.

Edited 7 hours ago by FireChans

[SoonerBillsFan]

26 minutes ago, Einstein said:

FG was the right call.

 

But the play-call by Brady before the Field Goal was insanely stupid.

 

Everyone in the world knows to run 2 QB sneaks there. Maybe you get in the first time, but your darn sure getting in the second time when you’re at the inch line.

 

 

Agreed.

[Ralonzo]

21 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I still Hated it.

 

Needed two yards to win the game. If you don't get it, ravens need 98 yards.

It was an Andrews drop away from potentially being a disaster decision 

 

Nah. The FG took the Bills dormie, as in there's no way they lose in regulation.

 

As it turned out, the ravens needed 88 yards after the kickoff and got it easily. 

 

Andrews drops it after you fail on 4th down and now you're trailing 25-24 and need to drive to win the game.

 

It's was absolutely the correct game management move, and I have been one of the more strident critics of McD's game management.

[PoundingDog]

Whatever works is the right call. No one argues that the Bills are headed to KC now.

 

Strategy wise, if it is well thought process, he should sleep well at night.

 

Look at the play sequence, on 1st down Cook gets to 5. I thought they may try a play-action but I get it they want to mill the clock. The next play Josh almost got in - I think that's their best play there and Josh is visibly pissed that he tripped so close.

 

Then the run option at the gun where Josh kept the ball --- I think that's where they went to the well too many times and the Ravens were ready for it. Keep that thought because I think you will see the Chiefs taking that Ravens approach seriously next week. 

 

If I were to call the play, I'd use the Davis TD play earlier where they made it look like a tush push play but allowed Davis to have some time to choose the gap to run it in. You gotta develp some variations from the Tush Push, especially against the big Ravens NT.  

[BillsFan130]

Just now, FireChans said:

That's fine for packages or even 50%+.  But we backed KC off earlier in there year with a couple of explosives to Cooper early and that's what this offense was missing tonight imo.

Ya I gotta see the all 22 clips. But it definitely looked like Baltimore crowded the box in the 2nd half.

You think that there should have been a few shot plays to Cooper, but never saw it

[SUNTANBILLS FAN]

This was the right call……. The third down no tush push was the head scratcher!

[HOUSE]

24 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Tyler Bass had a huge game. Needed every kick.

Considering he was waived 8 times on this board, he did pretty good tonight.

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Ralonzo said:

 

Nah. The FG took the Bills dormie, as in there's no way they lose in regulation.

 

As it turned out, the ravens needed 88 yards after the kickoff and got it easily. 

 

Andrews drops it after you fail on 4th down and now you're trailing 25-24 and need to drive to win the game.

 

It's was absolutely the correct game management move, and I have been one of the more strident critics of McD's game management.

You could have definitely lost it in regulation.  (Or in overtime and we all know the bills overtime record)

 

Andrews catches the ball, and you go 3 and out on offence.

 

The bills played not to lose on that sequence, and got a huge break with the drop

[Ralonzo]

3 minutes ago, cDAVIS said:

I agree but that ball should have been placed closer, wanted him to challenge it.

 

 

I thought about that but I'm not sure that's a challengeable thing whether to spot at the 1 or the 2 if it's NOT relevant to being a first down/not a first down or something like that. Just moving the spot, I hope someone has the actualy rule book, but without another element involved it might not be eligible.