1/19/25 Division Round Playoff Post Game Thread Bills vs. Ravens

[paulmm3]

The rush 3 soft zone defense we play to not give up "the big play" in crunch time has got to freaking go. It reliably allows teams to march down the field in less than a minute.

[YoloinOhio]

4 minutes ago, notpolian said:

The lack of separation is what worries me most about next week.  KC can play man and really clamp down when needed.  I think we need to get Cooper isolated 1:1 and also throw it to the RBs as much as possible.  We will need to score points.

Allen had no problem throwing the ball when they beat them earlier this season. And that was with NO help from the running game and no Kincaid. That said the chiefs have Watson back. But it’s crazy how cook only had 20 yards. Josh got loose though.

[Cash]

8 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Yep, you need some luck in the playoffs if you’re going to reach the big show. 

Big agree. Do a deep dive and I’m pretty sure every single Super Bowl champion has a few crucial bits of luck go their way. We’ve generally had bad luck in recent history. If this is the year the coin flips go our way, great!

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

9 minutes ago, paulmm3 said:

The rush 3 soft zone defense we play to not give up "the big play" in crunch time has got to freaking go. It reliably allows teams to march down the field in less than a minute.

 

That was a train wreck; looked like massive miscommunication issues too, with Rapp out and then TJ going on some too.

[Chaos]

Just now, Cash said:

Big agree. Do a deep dive and I’m pretty sure every single Super Bowl champion has a few crucial bits of luck go their way. We’ve generally had bad luck in recent history. If this is the year the coin flips go our way, great!

We had very good luck yesterday.  Playoff Lamar gave away two unforced turnovers.  Refs gave us a DPI setting up a TD score, that was questionable was lucky.  Not getting called for late hit on Lamar was also lucky. Andrews dropping the ball was also luck.  Thats five lucky plays in one game.  The only bad luck play was the bogus holding call on Dawkins in the first half.  +4 on luck  may be the best we have every had in a playoff game. 

[Kelly to Allen]

8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Allen had no problem throwing the ball when they beat them earlier this season. And that was with NO help from the running game and no Kincaid. That said the chiefs have Watson back. But it’s crazy how cook only had 20 yards. Josh got loose though.

 

The key is going to be can we run on KC. We couldn't last time but still won. But that was at home. 

 

Being able to run on them especially if we're up by a ten late to help put the game away is critical 

[dave mcbride]

Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

 

That was a train wreck; looked like massive miscommunication issues too, with Rapp out and then TJ going on some too.

The defense seemed to be scrambling to get aligned properly on almost every play of that final possession. Keystone cops-like.

[PromoTheRobot]

8 hours ago, MarkMiller said:

So much loser talk in here. Bills didn’t “steal” anything. They won the turnover battle, made huge plays when it really mattered, and did it in their terms. Yeah, there were some drops, but those happen every game and if the Ravens were so incredible they wouldn’t have let it come down to that play. Bills WIN on their terms yet again, and the goal posts keep moving. Get on the bus or take a walk BILLS BY A BILLION. 

It's not loser talk to say you got some luck to win. Ravens D was so fast we couldn't get any yards after catch on those quick outs. (But Brady kept calling them, grrrr.) That's just a fact. But it's also a fact the Ravens deserved to lose because of what we did.

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, Chaos said:

We had very good luck yesterday.  Playoff Lamar gave away two unforced turnovers.  Refs gave us a DPI setting up a TD score, that was questionable was lucky.  Not getting called for late hit on Lamar was also lucky. Andrews dropping the ball was also luck.  Thats five lucky plays in one game.  The only bad luck play was the bogus holding call on Dawkins in the first half.  +4 on luck  may be the best we have every had in a playoff game. 

Andrews also dropped an easy first in the second quarter at the Bills 20, and Jackson took the sack/fumble on the next play.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

The defense seemed to be scrambling to get aligned properly on almost every play of that final possession. Keystone cops-like.

 

Someone should set that last Lamar TD to the benny Hinn music. I think all the bills rushers may have run into each other. 

[stosh64]

18 minutes ago, Pete said:

Last week every "nfl expert repeatedly said "Bills cant stop Henry.  35-10.  Lamar, yada yada."  Pete Prisco, Dan Orlasky, Jon Gruden, and Dave Portnoy were the only people I heard, who were smart enough to see the emperors new clothes.  Steven A Smith corrected Sharpe during a Bills bashing segment, and said "Josh is the greatest divisional QB.  not the greatest playoff QB."  The disrespect is everywhere.

 

So today I have been trying to revisit those dumbass sights.  I search youtube Bills-Ravens, and I click on every take outside Buffalo  One headline -Ravens mistakes cost them the game"  another "Did Lamar do enough to win?"  Sharpe said the Ravens lost because the weather, and Lamar slipped out of his hands.  No one give Buffalo any credit.

 

Denial is not a river in Egypt.  The Big Bad Bills just bullied the Ravens.  KC- you are next.  After we plow over KC,  we will steamroll the NFC.

 

GO BILLS!

Yep, the media narrative makes me sick, it is the Ravens threw the game away, nothing about the Bills doing enough to win.  I am kind of glad, just more fuel to the fire.  I truly believe that fuel was enough to give us the win when all was said and done.

Go BILLS

[YoloinOhio]

20 minutes ago, Pete said:

Last week every "nfl expert repeatedly said "Bills cant stop Henry.  35-10.  Lamar, yada yada."  Pete Prisco, Dan Orlasky, Jon Gruden, and Dave Portnoy were the only people I heard, who were smart enough to see the emperors new clothes.  Steven A Smith corrected Sharpe during a Bills bashing segment, and said "Josh is the greatest divisional QB.  not the greatest playoff QB."  The disrespect is everywhere.

 

So today I have been trying to revisit those dumbass sights.  I search youtube Bills-Ravens, and I click on every take outside Buffalo  One headline -Ravens mistakes cost them the game"  another "Did Lamar do enough to win?"  Sharpe said the Ravens lost because the weather, and Lamar slipped out of his hands.  No one give Buffalo any credit.

 

Denial is not a river in Egypt.  The Big Bad Bills just bullied the Ravens.  KC- you are next.  After we plow over KC,  we will steamroll the NFC.

 

GO BILLS!

The people you mentioned (gruden etc)have actual football minds. People like Stephen A do not. As far as this week, it’s a gift that the Bills will again be treated like “not that great” bc they didn’t look amazing last night on offense. If they had, I think a lot of people would immediately pick them to beat KC. That’s the opposite of what we want. The chefs OL is trash and that’s the matchup I’m keying in on. Get to Kermit. He’s mobile but he’s not Lamar. Pacheco is good but he’s not Henry. Lfg. 

[Fan in Chicago]

1 hour ago, Ralonzo said:

Away we go on the morning shows to see what narrative is coalescing:

 

ESPN: Highlight package shows the Tre DPI.

Damien Woody "Baltimore is the better team"

Louis Riddick "Baltimore's Achilles Heel is themselves"

Dan Orlovsky "I'm not making this about Baltimore... Buffalo's QB stopped worrying so much about stats. Buffalo has figured out how to play their very best when it's needed"

Louis Riddick "Joe Brady called a perfect game"

Greenberg "I have no idea how Baltimore lost that game"

Alex Smith "If they play 10 times, Baltimore is winning 8 of them"

Greenberg "The Ravens were the best team in the AFC last year and the best team in the AFC this year"

 

So, Baltimore choked and low-key implying the refs helped. Pretty much Orlovsky on an island saying Buffalo earned it by playing the right way, and Allen has evolved into "an elite decision maker, playing smart but not careful, agressive but not reckless"

This should go in the "Random talking head said something about the Bills" thread. 😃

[PromoTheRobot]

20 minutes ago, paulmm3 said:

The rush 3 soft zone defense we play to not give up "the big play" in crunch time has got to freaking go. It reliably allows teams to march down the field in less than a minute.

 

And yet we keeping winning that way. 🙄

 

If you're playing a team that can strike quick, you're a dummy if you dare them to do that on you.

[Cash]

2 minutes ago, Chaos said:

We had very good luck yesterday.  Playoff Lamar gave away two unforced turnovers.  Refs gave us a DPI setting up a TD score, that was questionable was lucky.  Not getting called for late hit on Lamar was also lucky. Andrews dropping the ball was also luck.  Thats five lucky plays in one game.  The only bad luck play was the bogus holding call on Dawkins in the first half.  +4 on luck  may be the best we have every had in a playoff game. 

Eh, I don’t think that’s fair accounting.
-Lamar’s INT was unforced for sure, but his fumble was under huge duress. Yes he dropped the ball but that probably doesn’t happen without a Bill spinning him around. 
-Textbook DPI was missed on a Shakir crosser on 3rd down. Hand around the waist, turned the receiver and slowed him down; no call. 

-Oliver was held very clearly at least twice that was uncalled (to be fair, one of them was on a sack and we would’ve declined it). 

-Broadcast replayed a textbook helmet to helmet shot on Allen by Humphrey that wasn’t called. 
 

I'm sure there’s more (both for and against us), and I don’t have the inclination to go through and total everything up. Bottom line is that we won the game, and we “deserved” to win just as much as any winner in any close game. 
 

GO BILLS!

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

I knew it was coming, but all the morning shows have spent more time talking about how great Lamar Jackson is than how the Bills won

[finn]

5 minutes ago, Chaos said:

We had very good luck yesterday.  Playoff Lamar gave away two unforced turnovers.  Refs gave us a DPI setting up a TD score, that was questionable was lucky.  Not getting called for late hit on Lamar was also lucky. Andrews dropping the ball was also luck.  Thats five lucky plays in one game.  The only bad luck play was the bogus holding call on Dawkins in the first half.  +4 on luck  may be the best we have every had in a playoff game. 

Depends how you define "luck." If it's luck that Andrews drops a pass or Lamar fumbles a ball, why is it not luck that Andrew catches a ball or Lamar throws a TD? No, the Bills simply played better yesterday, which means they were the better team. We can debate the relative talent of the rosters, but that doesn't get you very far. All the questions are settled on the field, a harsh reality that Bills fans have had to live with forever. Yesterday, we were on the right side of that calculus. Let's enjoy it. 

[Coach Tuesday]

1 minute ago, Cash said:

Eh, I don’t think that’s fair accounting.
-Lamar’s INT was unforced for sure, but his fumble was under huge duress. Yes he dropped the ball but that probably doesn’t happen without a Bill spinning him around. 
-Textbook DPI was missed on a Shakir crosser on 3rd down. Hand around the waist, turned the receiver and slowed him down; no call. 

-Oliver was held very clearly at least twice that was uncalled (to be fair, one of them was on a sack and we would’ve declined it). 

-Broadcast replayed a textbook helmet to helmet shot on Allen by Humphrey that wasn’t called. 
 

I'm sure there’s more (both for and against us), and I don’t have the inclination to go through and total everything up. Bottom line is that we won the game, and we “deserved” to win just as much as any winner in any close game. 
 

GO BILLS!

Lamar’s INT was not at all “unforced” Milano won his rep and got right in his face causing an early throw.

[Bob in STL]

9 hours ago, zow2 said:

 

Three turnovers?  You don’t win in the playoffs with three turnovers. 

[Cash]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

The people you mentioned (gruden etc)have actual football minds. People like Stephen A do not. As far as this week, it’s a gift that the Bills will again be treated like “not that great” bc they didn’t look amazing last night on offense. If they had, I think a lot of people would immediately pick them to beat KC. That’s the opposite of what we want. The chefs OL is trash and that’s the matchup I’m keying in on. Get to Kermit. He’s mobile but he’s not Lamar. Pacheco is good but he’s not Henry. Lfg. 

First sentence: major exception for Portnoy, who is about as far from a football mind as it gets. 
 

The rest: Yes! Everyone please keep counting us out. Get that line up to Chiefs minus a touchdown. Start breaking down Chiefs Super Bowl hypotheticals on the talking head shows. I want MAXIMUM disrespect for the Bills this week. 

3 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

Three turnovers?  You don’t win in the playoffs with three turnovers. 

Ravens are definitely not the first team to lose in the playoffs with 3 turnovers!