Punch Posted January 19 Posted January 19 If I were a Chiefs fan, the last thing I would ever think of doing is go to a rival team's fan message board to argue that they shouldn't criticize the Chiefs. The fans of the other 31 teams all feel same way, even Troy Aikman was loudly grousing during yesterday's broadcast. Regardless of the validity of the claims, you're wasting your time. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted January 19 Posted January 19 "Looked closer at the stats. Mahomes is fourth in rate of RtP calls in the playoffs for starting QBs this year. J. Daniels: 1 game, 1 call, 1.000 per game D. Carr: 1 game, 1 call, 1.000 per game Kirk Cousins: 5 games, 2 calls, .400 per game Patrick Mahomes: 18 games, 7 calls, .389 per game Josh Allen: 11 games, 2 calls, .182 per game (both in 2020) Nobody else has over .150 per game, average appears to be closer to .120, maybe .140. so he is effectively 2.5x more likely to get a RtP call." 1 Quote
Ralonzo Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 7:09 PM, SaulGoodman said: Again, he’s been penalized MUCH more than in Jacksonville, and it started immediately after he joined the Chiefs. Somehow, in haters’ minds, an immediate dramatic increase in penalty rate indicates favoritism for KC. Please make it make sense. Expand If he wasn't getting called for cheating on the snap in Jax and he is getting called (not enough) for cheating on the snap in KC, then Occam's Razor tells me that the Chiefs coach him to cheat. Does that make sense? Well, considering the DB's, it might. 1 Quote
SaulGoodman Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 7:13 PM, HappyDays said: This is loser stuff. Your team has won three championships. Be a better fan than this. Expand But it’s not “loser stuff” to blame every single KC win on officiating? Lol. Wow. Quote
947 Posted January 19 Posted January 19 I blame Taylor Swift. KC has gotten an overabundance of favorable calls for several years, but it really took off when Swift started appearing at their games. The NFL has hundreds of thousands of new people tuning in just to see her shown up in the box. The powers that be obviously prefer another Taylor Swift-laden Chiefs appearance in the super bowl to CJ Stroud. Quote
SaulGoodman Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) On 1/19/2025 at 7:16 PM, Ralonzo said: If he wasn't getting called for cheating on the snap in Jax and he is getting called (not enough) for cheating on the snap in KC, then Occam's Razor tells me that the Chiefs coach him to cheat. Does that make sense? Well, considering the DB's, it might. Expand No, what makes sense is that there was a national uproar from fans/media after Collinsworth bitched about Taylor in game 1 last year. This led to the NFL relentlessly targeting him beginning in week 2. Edited January 19 by SaulGoodman Quote
HappyDays Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 7:24 PM, SaulGoodman said: But it’s not “loser stuff” to blame every single KC win on officiating? Lol. Wow. Expand You're not here to engage in good faith. Even the other Chiefs fans here at least make an attempt. You instead have made yourself the debate club president of the fanbase and not a single conversation on here has ever been enriched by you joining it. Homers of losing teams are endearing. Homers of dynasties are weird freaks. Don't be a weird freak. Quote
SaulGoodman Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 7:13 PM, Punch said: If I were a Chiefs fan, the last thing I would ever think of doing is go to a rival team's fan message board to argue that they shouldn't criticize the Chiefs. The fans of the other 31 teams all feel same way, even Troy Aikman was loudly grousing during yesterday's broadcast. Regardless of the validity of the claims, you're wasting your time. Expand You could argue that almost every minute spent on any message board is a waste of time. But if it’s interesting or entertaining to you, I’d argue it’s not a waste of time. I wouldn’t expect fans of 31 fanbases to change their minds. At least you admit that bias plays a huge part in the perception. That’s enough for me. Quote
Ralonzo Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 7:31 PM, SaulGoodman said: No, what makes sense is that there was a national uproar from fans/media after Collinsworth bitched about Taylor in game 1 last year. This led to the NFL relentlessly targeting him beginning in week 2. Expand The game where he lined up in the backfield and false started every play and made the league look dumb for letting it all go? Why would they hold that against him? Blaming Collinsworth for pointing it out is like jailing the witness to a crime. Your argument isn't really getting extra traction here. Quote
SaulGoodman Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 7:39 PM, Ralonzo said: The game where he lined up in the backfield and false started every play and made the league look dumb for letting it all go? Why would they hold that against him? Blaming Collinsworth for pointing it out is like jailing the witness to a crime. Your argument isn't really getting extra traction here. Expand I’m explaining what happened. I don’t care what Collinsworth says. On 1/19/2025 at 7:38 PM, HappyDays said: You're not here to engage in good faith. Even the other Chiefs fans here at least make an attempt. You instead have made yourself the debate club president of the fanbase and not a single conversation on here has ever been enriched by you joining it. Homers of losing teams are endearing. Homers of dynasties are weird freaks. Don't be a weird freak. Expand I’m a weird freak for bringing some facts into the hate party. Lol. Okay. Hate on. Quote
Simon Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 7:07 PM, GunnerBill said: He lines up illegally on almost every play. Expand He certainly pushes the envelope of having his hat on the Guards hip Quote
Punch Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 7:38 PM, SaulGoodman said: You could argue that almost every minute spent on any message board is a waste of time. But if it’s interesting or entertaining to you, I’d argue it’s not a waste of time. I wouldn’t expect fans of 31 fanbases to change their minds. At least you admit that bias plays a huge part in the perception. That’s enough for me. Expand We're not here to fête other teams, but I wouldn't call that bias. You're acknowledging you're here to glean some satisfaction from agitating other fanbases, which proves the assertion you're not posting in good faith. 1 1 Quote
BruceVilanch Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 7:38 PM, SaulGoodman said: You could argue that almost every minute spent on any message board is a waste of time. But if it’s interesting or entertaining to you, I’d argue it’s not a waste of time. I wouldn’t expect fans of 31 fanbases to change their minds. At least you admit that bias plays a huge part in the perception. That’s enough for me. Expand You truly live up to your username with these arguments 1 1 Quote
Ralonzo Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 7:31 PM, SaulGoodman said: there was a national uproar from fans/media after Collinsworth bitched about Taylor in game 1 last year. Expand On 1/19/2025 at 7:41 PM, SaulGoodman said: I’m explaining what happened. I don’t care what Collinsworth says. Expand So... was it 4 posts before you contradicted yourself, or 5? On 1/19/2025 at 8:01 PM, BruceVilanch said: You truly live up to your username with these arguments Expand If the username was "Slip'n Jimmy" 2 Quote
Punch Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 7:38 PM, SaulGoodman said: You could argue that almost every minute spent on any message board is a waste of time. But if it’s interesting or entertaining to you, I’d argue it’s not a waste of time. Expand To hone in on this point, I certainly do think message boards can be a waste of time, but perspective and moderation should be considered. For me, I'm a displaced Bills fan living 7 hours away. I've been a member of this board for nearly two decades and it's a way for me to experience community around our common bond. I don't think its much more complicated than that. The reasons for your persistent agitating presence, however, are somewhat more elusive to say the least. 1 Quote
st pete gogolak Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 7:31 PM, SaulGoodman said: No, what makes sense is that there was a national uproar from fans/media after Collinsworth bitched about Taylor in game 1 last year. This led to the NFL relentlessly targeting him beginning in week 2. Expand “Relentlessly targeted”. Hilarious. He can be called for false start or not being on the LOS 50% of the time. Actually being called once a game is hardly being targeted. Quote
SaulGoodman Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 7:59 PM, Punch said: We're not here to fête other teams, but I wouldn't call that bias. You're acknowledging you're here to glean some satisfaction from agitating other fanbases, which proves the assertion you're not posting in good faith. Expand No, I didn’t say that. If it agitates you for someone to offer a factual counter argument to “NFL’s fixing every Chiefs game,” then maybe your KC hatred is reaching unhealthy levels. Quote
Punch Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 9:00 PM, SaulGoodman said: No, I didn’t say that. If it agitates you for someone to offer a factual counter argument to “NFL’s fixing every Chiefs game,” then maybe your KC hatred is reaching unhealthy levels. Expand What's undeniably unhealthy is your insistence on trolling a Bills message board to win arguments no one is making. Quote
SaulGoodman Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 8:08 PM, Punch said: To hone in on this point, I certainly do think message boards can be a waste of time, but perspective and moderation should be considered. For me, I'm a displaced Bills fan living 7 hours away. I've been a member of this board for nearly two decades and it's a way for me to experience community around our common bond. I don't think its much more complicated than that. The reasons for your persistent agitating presence, however, are somewhat more elusive to say the least. Expand I’d say I’m pretty respectful. Even when I’m insulted by someone, I generally don’t respond with an insult. Again, if it agitates you for someone to disagree with a very subjective and conspiratorial narrative, maybe I’m not the problem. Quote
muppy Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/19/2025 at 6:22 PM, stevewin said: The Anderson bit was the stupidest waste of time I ever saw on network TV - his whole argument for both was predicated on hits to the head that did not happen. Wasn't even vaguely trying to hide the fact he was there just to make excuses for the shield Expand my question to you and anyone else. Is there an "acceptable human error quotient" that needs be implemented towards our attitudes regarding officiating? I'm asking because someone here will have a well thought out opinion and answer. Humans will never be perfect nor will their "vision" be it skewed or not, bad angle etc I'm hopeful to come up with a formula that I can apply for MYSELF to not allow these crap calls to steal my joy in a game I love. There has got to be some way. we as a species are growing in knowledge every day. right? Quote
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