Personally, this Ravens matchup is my "McDermott Game."

[CoudyBills]

I particularly enjoy when people call up wgr and complain about hail mary completions.  As if that has anything to do with anything besides the players on the field.  

[Mister Defense]

5 hours ago, Rigotz said:

McDermott has been at least average in the regular season. 

The playoffs are another story. Maybe this year is different.

 

Round 1 over Denver was a huge defensive win. Holding them to 7 points was impressive.

In the 7 games prior to our Wild Card matchup, the Broncos had scored 29, 41, 31, 34, 24, and 38.

 

Round 2, we face a Ravens offense that has been dominant.

If McDermott shuts down the Ravens or at least holds them under 20'ish points, that's it for me. I'll stop talking about his job security.

 

No coach can shut down every elite QB and elite offense every year and yes, he's had some poor defensive performances in the playoffs.

 

However, if he gets it done this time, I've seen enough. Bring him back with open arms next year and probably again the following year.

 

Anybody else feel the same?

 

 

Wow, that is very cool. So I obviously feel the same.  And I cannot imagine anyone not accepting your very thoughtful and specific job retaining criteria for McDermott.

 

I am sure after McDermott read your post 4 hours ago it made his day. Gives him Hope. A great start to an important weekend for him.

 

So generous of you to allow him to coach here again next year, and maybe even for a second year!!, if  the Bills win--and also meet your generous terms, criteria.

 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Mister Defense

[mjt328]

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Taking the chiefs down to the wire in the playoffs is literally the peak of what any afc head coach has been able to do in the playoffs lol. Pats had a coin flip fall their way to win a game in ot, bengals just squeaked one out once that felt like more luck than anything seeing as it’s pretty generally accepted Zac Taylor is kind of a mess.

 

Our goal should be #1 in the NFL.  Better than the Chiefs.  Not proudly amongst the other franchises who took them down to the wire.

 

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

 

i just don’t buy this ‘mental hump’ business and you are risking the future of the entire franchise on this false notion that ‘things can’t get worse’. A lot of you sound like you want to replace a hc with a sterling record against the only other afc east opponent that has a shot of doing anything that plays the chiefs as consistently well as anyone for a completely unproven no head coaching experience type guy.  And y’all expect this unproven guy to be able to accomplish a feat that no other coach in the league is doing with any kind of regularity. Chiefs are 1-8 against active head coaches not named Sean McDermott this decade in the playoffs.  It’s pure insanity and would be mocked mercilessly by the nfl world. 
 

To make the change, you absolutely need to acknowledge that things could get worse.  But staying the same, they also may never get better.  That is the dilemma.  Some fans are so afraid of going back to the drought days, they would be ok if we never got over the hump.

Think about the Steelers.  Mike Tomlin has mastered the art of finishing above .500, making the playoffs and going no farther.  At what point do you demand more?

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

28 minutes ago, Governor said:

Would Andy Reid still be the Chief’s coach if their offense was the reason why they lost every year?

Andy Reid had his share of good regular season/bad playoff performance years with kc and he stuck around.  A small contingent of fans on chiefs message boards wanted him gone but boy did they jump the gun 😂

 

I’d think if it’s truly freaky Friday and the bills are the team on the unbelievable playoff heater  and the chiefs offense came up short against Buffalo several times there’s no shot Reid goes anywhere to be honest with you

Edited 3 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Governor]

7 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Andy Reid had his share of good regular season/bad playoff performance years with kc and he stuck around.  A small contingent of fans on chiefs message boards wanted him gone but boy did they jump the gun 😂

 

I’d think if it’s truly freaky Friday and the bills are the team on the unbelievable playoff heater  and the chiefs offense came up short against Buffalo several times there’s no shot Reid goes anywhere to be honest with you

But you see why our situation is quite different. Andy Reid finally went out and got the best DC on the planet to get over the hump because his side of the ball wasn’t the problem.

 

What do we do?

[DaVinci]

statistically, For the season, the Ravens have ran for 1 more yard per play than the bills and given up one less yard per play.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, mjt328 said:

 

Our goal should be #1 in the NFL.  Better than the Chiefs.  Not proudly amongst the other franchises who took them down to the wire.

 

To make the change, you absolutely need to acknowledge that things could get worse.  But staying the same, they also may never get better.  That is the dilemma.  Some fans are so afraid of going back to the drought days, they would be ok if we never got over the hump.

Think about the Steelers.  Mike Tomlin has mastered the art of finishing above .500, making the playoffs and going no farther.  At what point do you demand more?

Oh yea that’s the situation…as it stands I think the odds things get worse greatly exceed the odds things get better.  Pretty much anything can happen bringing in a first time head coach.  
 

if we start losing not very close playoff games consistently or choke in the wildcard round, blow the division title etc the decision gets a lot easier/low risk but we’re not there yet imo.  If we lose a two score game to the ravens that’s certainly ammo for the fire side.

 

 

I do think the regular season success vs kc is getting downplayed a bit personally which factors in.  They are mostly the same kind of games as the playoff ones with us making the 1-2 more plays that can swing a close game instead of them. Only difference is the sample size.  If these teams played eachother 20 times playoffs or not I think you’d end up with a pretty even split in wins.  People repeat ‘the chiefs don’t try in the regular season’ thing but the last two times we saw them they were fighting for an undefeated season and trying to deliver the killshot to knock us out of the playoffs. 

[PromoTheRobot]

6 hours ago, Rigotz said:

McDermott has been at least average in the regular season. 

The playoffs are another story. Maybe this year is different.

 

Round 1 over Denver was a huge defensive win. Holding them to 7 points was impressive.

In the 7 games prior to our Wild Card matchup, the Broncos had scored 29, 41, 31, 34, 24, and 38.

 

Round 2, we face a Ravens offense that has been dominant.

If McDermott shuts down the Ravens or at least holds them under 20'ish points, that's it for me. I'll stop talking about his job security.

 

No coach can shut down every elite QB and elite offense every year and yes, he's had some poor defensive performances in the playoffs.

 

However, if he gets it done this time, I've seen enough. Bring him back with open arms next year and probably again the following year.

 

Anybody else feel the same?

 

Sometimes the other team is just better than you. It does happen. Not every loss is a coaching error. 

 

I expect this game to be a shootout. It'll probably come down to the last big play made. I also think the cold will be an advantage for us.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Governor said:

But you see why our situation is quite different. Andy Reid finally went out and got the best DC on the planet to get over the hump because his side of the ball wasn’t the problem.

 

What do we do?

Best DC on the planet is pretty strong recency bias.  Pretty sure the chiefs averaged 25+ ppg allowed in every playoff run up to last season.  That ain’t far off mcd numbers.  Really the only year he’s earned potential ‘best DC on the planet’ label is last year.  
 

They haven’t had a playoff run where they didn’t have a game allowing over 30 until 2023. I really think 13 seconds is warping peoples memory a bit and like I get it that was horrible but godda*n you’re facing potentially  3 other teams with hof level qbs in the afc playoffs there’s gonna be games you need to drop 30+ no matter who your coach is and your offense is gonna need to make a play late to seal it.  Idk how bringing in another coach is gonna do much to change that fact.  I’m all for Josh Allen is the best player in the world type talk but mahomes, burrow, and Lamar are right behind even for believers of that 

Difference is when the chiefs offense has needed a dagger to seal a game late in the playoffs they pretty much always come up with it.  Heck even Chad freakin henne came in and led a td drive in the playoffs to pick up an injured mahomes one year 😂. 

 

Like yea the chiefs replaced DCs after losing to NE in the playoffs a few times (Reid’s offense also blew one and lost to pit 16-18), but Brady also left the conference haha I think that’s pretty significant to mention 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[billsfan89]

I would love to see a "signature" defensive gameplan for McDermott. McD in the divisional round has only had one great defensive game and that was the 2020 divisional round and that was a very windy day that also had Lamar get hurt half way through the game (I think, I know he got hurt during that game). I would love to see McD come up with something that throws the Ravens off offensively. 

[QLBillsFan]

6 hours ago, MDH said:

Just win.

 

Don’t care if it’s 13-10 or 42-40.
 

Just win. 

Absolutely! The coaches job is to win and ave is all that matters to me. When Quinn was HC in Atlanta and KS was OC , KS went for style points vs the Pats. Didn’t use clock making it impossible for Brady to come back. A win over arguably a better team ( by some opinions) is all that matters.

[CaseyatBat]

At some point Allen needs to beat a good QB in the playoffs.
 

I understand McDermott criticisms for sure, but Allen makes a lot of money, it’s time to simply outscore a good QB in the playoffs that’s not Mason Rudolph or Mac Jones 

 

Jim Kelly beat the likes of Elway, Marino, Montana, etc in the playoffs just sayin

 

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by CaseyatBat

[Governor]

39 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Best DC on the planet is pretty strong recency bias.  Pretty sure the chiefs averaged 25+ ppg allowed in every playoff run up to last season.  That ain’t far off mcd numbers.  Really the only year he’s earned potential ‘best DC on the planet’ label is last year.  
 

They haven’t had a playoff run where they didn’t have a game allowing over 30 until 2023. I really think 13 seconds is warping peoples memory a bit and like I get it that was horrible but godda*n you’re facing potentially  3 other teams with hof level qbs in the afc playoffs there’s gonna be games you need to drop 30+ no matter who your coach is and your offense is gonna need to make a play late to seal it.  Idk how bringing in another coach is gonna do much to change that fact.  I’m all for Josh Allen is the best player in the world type talk but mahomes, burrow, and Lamar are right behind even for believers of that 

Difference is when the chiefs offense has needed a dagger to seal a game late in the playoffs they pretty much always come up with it.  Heck even Chad freakin henne came in and led a td drive in the playoffs to pick up an injured mahomes one year 😂. 

 

Like yea the chiefs replaced DCs after losing to NE in the playoffs a few times (Reid’s offense also blew one and lost to pit 16-18), but Brady also left the conference haha I think that’s pretty significant to mention 

 

 

There’s been 4 defensive meltdowns in the playoffs. Chiefs twice, Bengals, and the Texans.

 

Spags was fresh off a SB wins with the Giants over a juggernaut Patriots team. Reid said “that is the guy I need” and the rest was history.

Edited 1 hour ago by Governor

[T master]

6 hours ago, Rigotz said:

McDermott has been at least average in the regular season. 

The playoffs are another story. Maybe this year is different.

 

Round 1 over Denver was a huge defensive win. Holding them to 7 points was impressive.

In the 7 games prior to our Wild Card matchup, the Broncos had scored 29, 41, 31, 34, 24, and 38.

 

Round 2, we face a Ravens offense that has been dominant.

If McDermott shuts down the Ravens or at least holds them under 20'ish points, that's it for me. I'll stop talking about his job security.

 

No coach can shut down every elite QB and elite offense every year and yes, he's had some poor defensive performances in the playoffs.

 

However, if he gets it done this time, I've seen enough. Bring him back with open arms next year and probably again the following year.

 

Anybody else feel the same?

 

Ii hate to burst your bubble but McD will be back next season & in the future no matter what the fans/haters think he just signed a extension . 

 

The last good teams the Broncos played were the Chiefs & the Ravens which they lost both games, from that point they played the Falcons, Raiders, Browns, & Colts, not exactly a gauntlet of teams .

 

Then the Bills put 31 on the broncos #2 defense in the entire NFL & the same team that had the most sacks in the league this year at 63 the Bills allowed only 2 sacks in that game . 

 

This week will tell us all where the Bills have improved since week 4 when they lost with 5 starters out against the Ravens .

[Mikie2times]

If we lose this game we will be 0-7 against 1-4 seeds and 0-3 at home. This will be across 5 separate teams. No excuses besides ones that are empty. I don’t imagine any coach in NFL history has compiled a worse record in this spot. If you have one by all means let us know. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Mikie2times

[Mikie2times]

2 hours ago, CoudyBills said:

I particularly enjoy when people call up wgr and complain about hail mary completions.  As if that has anything to do with anything besides the players on the field.  

Actually you can rush a QB on that spot. Just like you can jam a WR with 13 seconds left. The actual strategy tends to matter the higher up you get.

[BringBackFergy]

Ridiculous. The coach has brought us more wins (regular and post season) than any other. Just stop. 

[VW82]

Disagree. We could win or lose this game and unless it's one-sided against in terms of coaching, it won't make a difference.

 

Ravens are favoured on the road for a reason. 

 

McD needs to outcoach Reid in a playoff W. That will put him on a level that's harder to (harshly) criticize (as many have done here).

[Shortchaz]

7 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Ridiculous. The coach has brought us more wins (regular and post season) than any other. Just stop. 

Josh. Allen.

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, CaseyatBat said:

At some point Allen needs to beat a good QB in the playoffs.
 

I understand McDermott criticisms for sure, but Allen makes a lot of money, it’s time to simply outscore a good QB in the playoffs that’s not Mason Rudolph or Mac Jones 

 

Jim Kelly beat the likes of Elway, Marino, Montana, etc in the playoffs just sayin

 

Allen has beaten Phillip Rivers in the playoffs.  Rivers is generally considered to be a very good QB

Allen has beaten Lamar Jackson in the playoffs.  We've been hearing all month and more what a Super Amazing Fantastic Marvelous QB he is

As for the rest you play who you play, and the rest of the team has something to say about the win.