strive_for_five_guy Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I think McD has the chance for this to be his finest moment. It kind of reminds me of last year when Miami had just put up 70 on Denver, and then coming into our house. All the pundits were crowning the Dolphins already. We obviously smoked them. 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: I think McD has the chance for this to be his finest moment. It kind of reminds me of last year when Miami had just put up 70 on Denver, and then coming into our house. All the pundits were crowning the Dolphins already. We obviously smoked them. It was a good game to put on that regular season mantle. Which for us is the only mantle we have in the house. I really want this one, so I hope the defense can give us a chance. 1 Quote
BuffaloBill Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: McDermott has been at least average in the regular season. The playoffs are another story. Maybe this year is different. Round 1 over Denver was a huge defensive win. Holding them to 7 points was impressive. In the 7 games prior to our Wild Card matchup, the Broncos had scored 29, 41, 31, 34, 24, and 38. Round 2, we face a Ravens offense that has been dominant. If McDermott shuts down the Ravens or at least holds them under 20'ish points, that's it for me. I'll stop talking about his job security. No coach can shut down every elite QB and elite offense every year and yes, he's had some poor defensive performances in the playoffs. However, if he gets it done this time, I've seen enough. Bring him back with open arms next year and probably again the following year. Anybody else feel the same? I’m sure Pegula and Beane will call you to get a final opinion. 1 Quote
mjt328 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 40 minutes ago, SoMAn said: I’m sure McD can sleep well tonight knowing he has your blessing to continue for at least another season as the Bills head coach. 🙄 Anyone who’s entertained the notion of firing McDermott is a complete idiot in my opinion. The team has won 14 of 18 games in what was expected to be a ‘transition year’ with the exodus of several key players. It would probably have been 15 of 18 if they’d played their best team against the pats. In the process, they handed defeats to the top seeded teams each conference, and also both teams from the last Super Bowl. But yeah, let’s start looking for McDs replacement if they lose. When I hear the ‘fire McDermott’ chants, I’m convinced they’re coming from the same idiots who went ballistic when the Bills chose Josh Allen rather than Josh Rosen. There needs to be more balance from both sides when it comes to the Sean McDermott debate. I agree that some Bills fans go totally overboard, wanting to fire him every time he misses a replay challenge or makes a slightly questionable time management decision. But I also don't think he should just get an unlimited leash for the rest of his career, like some people seem to suggest. Is Josh Allen one of the Top 2 quarterbacks in the entire NFL? Is Brandon Beane one of the best GMs in the league? If those things are both true, then why do we keep falling short of winning the Super Bowl? Not just being the champion, but we are currently at 3 straight home losses in the Divisional Round (hopefully that breaks on Sunday evening). For all our regular season success, we can't even seem to get the AFC top seed either. It's either the talent or the coaching. Can't have it both ways. We all realize where this franchise was pre-2017. We all realize what McDermott has helped build us into. He's a great guy, the locker room clearly loves him, and I really want to see him succeed. Winning the AFC East is much nicer than going back to the drought days. But I'm not willing to just keep accepting second place forever. It doesn't make me or anyone else an "idiot" for refusing to accept falling short. The Bills absolutely MUST win a championship (and soon), or something needs to change. 2 Quote
Beast Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago He’s coming back next year and the following year regardless of what happens Sunday. 1 Quote
Rigotz Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, appoo said: I feel like I'm taking crazy pills if you classify McDermott as ***** "at least average" At least average means even doubters would call him average. Would you prefer that I call him elite? Quote
appoo Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Rigotz said: At least average means even doubters would call him average. Would you prefer that I call him elite? yes 2 Quote
CoudyBills Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Rigotz said: McDermott has been at least average in the regular season. The playoffs are another story. Maybe this year is different. Round 1 over Denver was a huge defensive win. Holding them to 7 points was impressive. In the 7 games prior to our Wild Card matchup, the Broncos had scored 29, 41, 31, 34, 24, and 38. Round 2, we face a Ravens offense that has been dominant. If McDermott shuts down the Ravens or at least holds them under 20'ish points, that's it for me. I'll stop talking about his job security. No coach can shut down every elite QB and elite offense every year and yes, he's had some poor defensive performances in the playoffs. However, if he gets it done this time, I've seen enough. Bring him back with open arms next year and probably again the following year. Anybody else feel the same? At least average? Gtfoh 1 Quote
appoo Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Sean McDermott is at this point one of the 5 best HC's in the NFL. Andy Reid, Sean McVay, Jon Harbaugh, McDermott, Jim Harbaugh Quote
Jauronimo Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: We are 0-6 against seeds 1-4 under McD Lets not pretend people who questions his ability to lead us to a Super Bowl are wildly irrational. I don't really care about the loss to the Texans or Jags. McD had little to do with us coming up short in those games. 0-4 to top seeds is the focus. It is worth noting that in 2 of the 4 years we lost to the AFC super bowl representative. 1 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: I don't really care about the loss to the Texans or Jags. McD had little to do with us coming up short in those games. 0-4 to top seeds is the focus. It is worth noting that in 2 of the 4 years we lost to the AFC super bowl representative. Texans loss I care about, Jags not so much. Also worth noting that half of them have occurred at home as favorites. At some point we need to show our regular season performance is capable of translating to the postseason. 1 Quote
appoo Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Y'all get frustrated at HOF dudes doing HOF ***** against a Bills D that's mostly injured, and project those frustrations on to McDermott. IMAGINE TRYING TO DEFEND JOSH ALLEN ON A HEATER!! WITH ANY DEFENSE. I wish more of you watched more sports. This is like claiming wins is a QB stat, or that Jim Kelly ISNT a HOF QB because he never won a SB. So much of winning a SB comes down to luck, health and who's HOF player is going bonkers. The best team in NFL history lost the SB because a good but nor great QB delievered a ***** Helmet catch to a WR who's the eptiome of a replacement level guy in this league. But y'all keep wanting to blame Mcdermott for getting his team in the position to beat elite teams, and then having luck and injuries and HOF players doing HOF things go against him Just now, Mikie2times said: Texans loss I care about, Jags not so much. Also worth noting that half of them have occurred at home as favorites. At some point we need to show our regular season performance is capable of translating to the postseason. weve already proven this. McDermott is already proven. Done and dusted. Period. Quote
Mikie2times Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, appoo said: Y'all get frustrated at HOF dudes doing HOF ***** against a Bills D that's mostly injured, and project those frustrations on to McDermott. IMAGINE TRYING TO DEFEND JOSH ALLEN ON A HEATER!! WITH ANY DEFENSE. I wish more of you watched more sports. This is like claiming wins is a QB stat, or that Jim Kelly ISNT a HOF QB because he never won a SB. So much of winning a SB comes down to luck, health and who's HOF player is going bonkers. The best team in NFL history lost the SB because a good but nor great QB delievered a ***** Helmet catch to a WR who's the eptiome of a replacement level guy in this league. But y'all keep wanting to blame Mcdermott for getting his team in the position to beat elite teams, and then having luck and injuries and HOF players doing HOF things go against him weve already proven this. McDermott is already proven. Done and dusted. Period. You think we have proven that we are as good a postseason team as we are a regular season team? 1 Quote
JPP Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Definately not going to completely shut down the Ravens Offence and vice versa.....But if the Bills keep it "manageable" unlike the week 4 game and get the win than McD deserves praise and than some IMO.....But we shall see... Quote
appoo Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Doug Pederson and Nick Foles won a super bowl against Bill Belichak, Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski. How does that play into the narrative? Just now, Mikie2times said: You think we have proven that we are as good a postseason team as we are a regular season team? yes. 1 1 Quote
appoo Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) There has been exactly ONE game where the Buffalo Bills have underperfomed in a playoff game. That was against the Bengals in the divisional round. A game where they had a huge amount of injuries defense, and mentally they were seemingly broken. Josh Allen played like ass. Stef diggs played like ass. The defense struggled to stay in the game (and they did barely btw - 17 - 10 half way through the 3rd Q). Everything fell flat and the Bills played well under their talent level. Every other playoff game in the McDermott era the Bills showed up and played well and mostly played to their talent levels. That is the definition of being a good playoff team. As a coach all you can do is do your best to prepare youor team to play well, and then the rest is up to fate and luck. You can't control for Pat Mahomes playing like a football god. You can't control for the Chiefs having a flat out better roster in 2021. You can't control for having the entire gut of your defense not being available in 2024 and the chiiefs having an elite defense. You give credit/critique of the things that your coach actually has control over. That's 2022 you can attack him for how the last 13 seconds of that chiefs game played out. But not really for the other losses Edited 3 hours ago by appoo Quote
Mikie2times Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, appoo said: Doug Pederson and Nick Foles won a super bowl against Bill Belichak, Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski. How does that play into the narrative? yes. 2020: 3rd best DVOA in football, lost to a worse DVOA 2021: 2nd best DVOA in football, lost to a worse DVOA 2022: 1st best DVOA in football, lost to a worse DVOA 2023: 3rd best DVOA in football, lost to a worse DVOA We played home games the last two years in the playoffs when we lost because we performed better in the regular season than the teams we have eventually lost to. We have beat KC in the regular season 4 consecutive times, we have never beat them in the postseason. I know your logic seems sound and all, but just not following Quote
jaybeezee Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, Rigotz said: McDermott has been at least average in the regular season. The playoffs are another story. Maybe this year is different. Round 1 over Denver was a huge defensive win. Holding them to 7 points was impressive. In the 7 games prior to our Wild Card matchup, the Broncos had scored 29, 41, 31, 34, 24, and 38. Round 2, we face a Ravens offense that has been dominant. If McDermott shuts down the Ravens or at least holds them under 20'ish points, that's it for me. I'll stop talking about his job security. No coach can shut down every elite QB and elite offense every year and yes, he's had some poor defensive performances in the playoffs. However, if he gets it done this time, I've seen enough. Bring him back with open arms next year and probably again the following year. Anybody else feel the same? A win is a win and under these circumstances I will gladly take a 1-point win on Sunday. If we lose by 1- depending on how and why we lose, I will be the "Time to start looking" train. If we get blown out at home, in the elements that benefit us more than them, then I will be with the "Fire Him" masses. Not too many on this board feel this way, but many Bills fans nationwide feel like this. 1 Quote
appoo Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Mikie2times said: 2020: 3rd best DVOA in football, lost to a worse DVOA 2021: 2nd best DVOA in football, lost to a worse DVOA 2022: 1st best DVOA in football, lost to a worse DVOA 2023: 3rd best DVOA in football, lost to a worse DVOA We played home games the last two years in the playoffs when we lost because we performed better in the regular season than the teams we have eventually lost to. We have beat KC in the regular season 4 consecutive times, we have never beat them in the postseason. I know your logic seems sound and all, but just not following The 2021 Chiefs having a worse DVOA than the Bills should tell you how important that metric is for the playoffs. It's a tremendous regulr season measure, an d even then I'm guessing the DVOA's of those games were pretty damn close 1 Quote
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