Personally, this Ravens matchup is my "McDermott Game."

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, FireChans said:

I mean it’s kind of illogical to let Harbaugh live off a single SB with a completely different staff, GM, QB, and roster 12 years ago. 

 

I get you would be okay with that kind of illogic (and so would I tbh) but I can admit it makes no sense. 
 

The Ravens fans as we know don’t agree. They think Harbaugh is wasting a generational QB and they have a point.

 

If McD wins a Super Bowl with Josh, Josh retires, everyone in the org leaves retires or is fired, and McD gets another HoF caliber QB and can’t break through, I would honestly really understand folks wanting him back on the hotseat.

 

Good HC’s can and do get fired. Much more often than they win Superbowls.

 

Do we think McVay has a 12 year rope when it comes to the Rams? Maybe. Should he? I’m honestly not sure.

 

100% agreed on every point

[Rigotz]

I’m kinda surprised this thread is still going. A bit surprised people went so crazy on me for just saying I wasn’t fully bought in to McDermott…

 

Just to be clear, he did a ton this game. His defense made plays when needed, he had a great plan coming in, and he won. It wasn’t an offensive track meet to have Josh bail him out.

 

This is exactly what I needed to see. No more complaints here. The same calibre of preparation and defensive play calling in the playoffs as what we have seen in regular season. I’m happy - enough with crucifying each other.

[section122]

49 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

If McD wins one this year, I'd love to be in the current Ravens situation. Being like "This guy has been here too long, but he did get us to the promise land so I guess he gets to stay as long as he wants". Win one, and McD could start every game by blowing all our Time Outs on Defense and I'd be like "There goes our Champ!". 🤣

 

 

I love the thought of this. I'm picturing you like TO and that's my QB lol.

 

 

[Rigotz]

On 1/17/2025 at 7:32 PM, Mister Defense said:

 

 

Wow, that is very cool. So I obviously feel the same.  And I cannot imagine anyone not accepting your very thoughtful and specific job retaining criteria for McDermott.

 

I am sure after McDermott read your post 4 hours ago it made his day. Gives him Hope. A great start to an important weekend for him.

 

So generous of you to allow him to coach here again next year, and maybe even for a second year!!, if  the Bills win--and also meet your generous terms, criteria.

 

 

 

I also think these type of responses come off as insecure and fragile.

 

We are on a Buffalo Bills message board. I am typing my opinion. You are responding.

 

Nobody expects Sean McDermott to read this… but you felt it necessary to attack a fellow fan for having an opinion that, let me guess, is different from yours? Time to look in the mirror bud. Enjoy the win, it was awesome. The rest is unnecessary and embarrassing.

[Alphadawg7]

4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

It is an odd question. In response to an odd statement "McD would get hired in a second".

 

Sure, of course he would. But what does that really say?

 

Huh?  It says he is a respected coach and teams would have interest.  What else do you need it to say?  And no disrespect, but saying he would get hired quickly is not an odd statement, its most likely the truth.  

 

4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Does the fact that teams like the Panthers, Raiders, Jets, Browns, and any other perennial basement dweller hold any relevancy to the debate on whether McD can/will get us a Championship?

 

Job openings are open for a reason most of the time...the team isn't currently very good or failing to meet expectations.  So what does the quality of those teams have to do with anything relating to McD?

 

4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

We are at a totally different level than a lot of other teams in the league. Therefore our coaching discussion is at a different level too. The fact he would (rightfully) get hired by SOME team doesnt really tell me anything I dont already know/believe.

 

I am not sure what it is you want to know/believe from the topic of whether or not McD would get a job quickly if he wasn't with the Bills.  

 

4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

The McD Riders throw this statement around like it should end all debate, since we arent allowed to have those higher level discussions around here without being labeled a "hater". But it isnt really relevant to what we're talking about.

 

One, what debate are you talking about?  Two, not sure what the higher level discussions you are referring to, I was only commenting on this string of comments about whether or not McD would get hired if he was available, and its pretty obvious he would.  

 

4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

So any playoff teams you could think of?

 

 

 

Again this is an odd and silly question.  For example, if Detroit shocked the world and fired Dan Campbell immediately after their loss..they aren't going outside the organization to make their next HC hire, it would almost certainly be internal with guys like Ben Johnson and Glenn there.  If Washignton suddenly lost Quinn tomorrow, would bet anything Kliff gets the job internally.  Just like if the Bills fired McD, we most likely would hire Brady as HC.  

 

So its not so cut and dry as to which playoff team would hire McD.  But if McD was available and all of the playoff teams lost their whole coaching staffs forcing them to go outside their organization, I am willing to bet he would be on most, if not all, of their short lists.  

[Rigotz]

7 hours ago, Mister Defense said:

 

Yes, makes perfect sense.

 

Win Win for the Bills. A Super Bowl victory and also losing this albatross the Bills have had around their necks for 7 long years now.

 

Fire him a day after the Bills win the championship.  This also fully supports the astute analysis, logic, and generous spirit of the OP as well.

 

In addition, with time left on his contract, the Bills should be able to get some extremely good draft picks after the Bills win it all this year.

 

Those teams won't know, the way a small percentage of very smart, astute, football savants in Buffalo know, such as  the OP, that he is a team killing coach, and his 'success' in Buffalo has been a mirage. 

 

Hopefully those teams won't do a deep dive, or look too closely at this board.

 

 

I finally took the time to read through this full thread. You responded what, 8 times attacking me for my initial post?

 

I didn’t say McDermott needs to be fired. I didn’t even say he’s bad. I corrected my initial post that said he’s “at worst average” because this offended you and others… with a clarification that I meant his detractors would call him average.

 

Im happy the Bills won. I’m extra happy for McDermott. This weird, smarmy, sarcastic tone you struck over and over again might be fun to watch by onlookers, but it’s sad. We like the same team. Good lord.

[Orlando Buffalo]

This was a big game for me as far judgement for McD went. He basically always beats the teams we match up well with but this game he had to put scheme another really good coach. Baltimore had the "better" talent but we had enough answers and McD is a big reason why 

[ColoradoBills]

37 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

I’m kinda surprised this thread is still going. A bit surprised people went so crazy on me for just saying I wasn’t fully bought in to McDermott…

 

Just to be clear, he did a ton this game. His defense made plays when needed, he had a great plan coming in, and he won. It wasn’t an offensive track meet to have Josh bail him out.

 

This is exactly what I needed to see. No more complaints here. The same calibre of preparation and defensive play calling in the playoffs as what we have seen in regular season. I’m happy - enough with crucifying each other.

 

I for one applaud your post and explanation of your OP and your current views.

The subject of McDermott (and for that matter Beane) bring out a lot of emotions.

McDermott and Josh have the team in the AFCCG.

Go Bills.

[DrDawkinstein]

1 hour ago, section122 said:

 

 

I love the thought of this. I'm picturing you like TO and that's my QB lol.

 

 

 

I'd be giving the signature McD claps too. Clappin for that mfer like 2 cheeks at Magic City during the NBA All Star Weekend!

 

"Look at my little Champion! *clap clap clap* Oh, he's got 12 men on the field to defend a FG! *clap clap clap* Silly McD, give him another $5M!"

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

100% agreed on every point

Stop being so mfing reasonable

[Mikie2times]

1 hour ago, Rigotz said:

I also think these type of responses come off as insecure and fragile.

 

We are on a Buffalo Bills message board. I am typing my opinion. You are responding.

 

Nobody expects Sean McDermott to read this… but you felt it necessary to attack a fellow fan for having an opinion that, let me guess, is different from yours? Time to look in the mirror bud. Enjoy the win, it was awesome. The rest is unnecessary and embarrassing.

I love this team. Been a fan for my entire life. I thought your posts were pretty balanced.  I think McD is going to waste the potential for a Dynasty. He's got Tony Dungy vibes all over him. My opinion will change when I see enough justification to change it. So according to plenty on here I shouldn't be a fan. I hate the Bills. They will debate anything but the actual topic and make the response personal every time. That is the price you pay for not conforming. Nothing new to this forum or life in general. 

[Mister Defense]

1 hour ago, Rigotz said:

I also think these type of responses come off as insecure and fragile.

 

We are on a Buffalo Bills message board. I am typing my opinion. You are responding.

 

Nobody expects Sean McDermott to read this… but you felt it necessary to attack a fellow fan for having an opinion that, let me guess, is different from yours? Time to look in the mirror bud. Enjoy the win, it was awesome. The rest is unnecessary and embarrassing.

 

I did not mean to embarrass you.

 

Having some good fun with a bizarre post, before a huge game, in which you clearly stated a win was not good enough reason to keep McDermott as our head coach, but it needed to be a win with specific criteria, criteria that were, as you know, almost impossible to meet.

 

You said it, and it showed the absurdity of the hatred for McDermott, so I shined a little light on that.

 

Go Bills!

 

 

 

 

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, Rigotz said:

I finally took the time to read through this full thread. You responded what, 8 times attacking me for my initial post?

 

I didn’t say McDermott needs to be fired. I didn’t even say he’s bad. I corrected my initial post that said he’s “at worst average” because this offended you and others… with a clarification that I meant his detractors would call him average.

 

Im happy the Bills won. I’m extra happy for McDermott. This weird, smarmy, sarcastic tone you struck over and over again might be fun to watch by onlookers, but it’s sad. We like the same team. Good lord.

I consider @Mister Defense and @PBF81 to be two sides of the same coin.

 

Yin and Yang.

[Mister Defense]

Just now, FireChans said:

I consider @Mister Defense and @PBF81 to be two sides of the same coin.

 

Yin and Yang.

 

Thank you!

 

I am assuming PBF81 is a great guy!

 

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

 

Thank you!

 

I am assuming PBF81 is a great guy!

 

He actually thinks McD is terrible and will go to any length to annihilate him on any given post, even when it borders on annoying and completely unproductive.
 

Yin and yang. You guys complete the board. 

[Mister Defense]

5 minutes ago, FireChans said:

He actually thinks McD is terrible and will go to any length to annihilate him on any given post, even when it borders on annoying and completely unproductive.
 

Yin and yang. You guys complete the board. 

 

No, don't be so humble.  It is your super objective, positive and even handed analysis of this team that completes the board.  More of that, please!

 

He sounds like he may be your long lost brother..

 

 

Edited 12 hours ago by Mister Defense

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

 

No, don't be so humble.  It is your super objective, positive and even handed analysis of this team that completes the board.  More of that, please!

 

He sounds like he may your long lost brother..

 

 

 

20 hours ago, FireChans said:

Probably the best win of McD’s postseason career tbh.

 

next week would supplant it. 
 

Im hoping he goes 2-0.

 

20 hours ago, FireChans said:

The first half defense was the best defensive half McD has had in the divisional round since 2020.

 

I think we all saw that first LJ TD and thought "here we go again."

 

I'm not sure what you wanted with Hamlin/Bishop on the backend tbh. They forced 3 TO's.  The Ravens never had the ball with the chance to take the lead after the 1st Q.

 

It wasn't perfect or pretty, for sure. BB's HoF SB gameplan came down to a missed FG.  Doing just enough to beat a great opponent is the way it goes.

How’s that for positive, Mr?

[PBF81]

16 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

Thank you!

 

I am assuming PBF81 is a great guy!

 

He is!  

 

 

[Mister Defense]

Just now, PBF81 said:

 

He is!  

 

 

 

And if the picture in your profile is legit, a beautiful person both inside and out!

 

 

[gonzo1105]

Who’s ready to start the “Chiefs game is my McDermott game “thread for this week