daz28 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I get it, and respect your right to that opinion. In my opinion, the democrat leadership team, in chorus, that the 2016 election was illegitimate, stolen and a coup was equally unconscionable (and perhaps moreso because they did it first). From start to finish, it was a dogcrap premise, election interference and sowed the seeds of division and mistrust amongst citizens. Absent that disgrace, Stop the Steal never happens--or if it does, I'd think it loses steam quite a bit faster. This crap all started one day when some turd stood up in Congress and said, "we need to investigate 'X", and his equally terdy opposition said, "then we'll investigate 'Y'". They had no clue just how far down the craphole modern media could take this nonsense. 1
BillsFanNC Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago For me it's unforgivable if someone buys 81 million votes and the most secure election in US history narrative. Only Biden is mentally fit beats it by a nose. 1
Doc Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, daz28 said: I thought it was 5, but I can't see any elections in the near future that aren't going to be very close. If 3 states trump won by like an average of 1 or so percent went the other way, it would have changed this one, too. All that said, if he ain't showed us the "massive fraud" yet, he's never going to. He literally claimed it before they even finished counted the votes. Press conference, "stop counting the votes!". Probably the least presidential thing I've seen in my life. Probably. My reply was to the FNG who made it seem like Joe won it by a landslide. It wasn't. Even if you believe it was legit.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: This crap all started one day when some turd stood up in Congress and said, "we need to investigate 'X", and his equally terdy opposition said, "then we'll investigate 'Y'". They had no clue just how far down the craphole modern media could take this nonsense. I don't understand exactly what you're saying here, but if you're saying the allegations were simply 'turdy', that doesn't cover it. It was election interference, a misinformation campaign (coordinated through the media, that is true) that was more successful than the Russians ever could ever dream of. In fact, it likely goes much deeper than that. The good news for all citizens now..it ultimately backfired. People got tired of claims of illegitimate presidents and steal stoppage...grifts like the Kavanaugh accusations and armed raids by law enforcement and the like. Trump has an interesting needle to thread here--moving on, leading the country, identifying wrongdoers if they exist, bringing people to justice...but not exhausting the public with overkill. We'll see if he's successful before too long.
daz28 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I don't understand exactly what you're saying here, but if you're saying the allegations were simply 'turdy', that doesn't cover it. It was election interference, a misinformation campaign (coordinated through the media, that is true) that was more successful than the Russians ever could ever dream of. In fact, it likely goes much deeper than that. The good news for all citizens now..it ultimately backfired. People got tired of claims of illegitimate presidents and steal stoppage...grifts like the Kavanaugh accusations and armed raids by law enforcement and the like. Trump has an interesting needle to thread here--moving on, leading the country, identifying wrongdoers if they exist, bringing people to justice...but not exhausting the public with overkill. We'll see if he's successful before too long. No no, I'm saying all this crap started in like 1834, and it's snowballed into this ball of trash heap we have now. Not talking about anything in particular, just that almost every one of the million investigations since then have turned up nothing of substance or we weren't allowed to see it. The JFK release today is a pretty great example actually.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 10 minutes ago, daz28 said: No no, I'm saying all this crap started in like 1834, and it's snowballed into this ball of trash heap we have now. Not talking about anything in particular, just that almost every one of the million investigations since then have turned up nothing of substance or we weren't allowed to see it. The JFK release today is a pretty great example actually. Ah, I understand. I think the silliness was supersized with hanging chads and notched up substantially in 2015/16. Like, exponentially, but I can understand your perspective and why you would disagree with mine. 1
daz28 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Ah, I understand. I think the silliness was supersized with hanging chads and notched up substantially in 2015/16. Like, exponentially, but I can understand your perspective and why you would disagree with mine. I don't disagree with you completely. 1
Steve O Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, daz28 said: This crap all started one day when some turd stood up in Congress and said, "we need to investigate 'X", and his equally terdy opposition said, "then we'll investigate 'Y'". They had no clue just how far down the craphole modern media could take this nonsense. Actually Washington, in his farewell address, not only had a clue but actually warned against how far down the craphole things would go when warning against the party system. I've deleted a lot in the quotes below but the entire address is easy enough to find on the world wide web. "Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally... The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions..." Almost sounds prophetic. 1 1
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