McDermott Winner of 36th Earle “Greasy” Neale Award as the Most Outstanding Coach in pro football

[kirkwoodus13]

McDermott is an excellent coach. The bills would have played in a superbowl if Reid and the Chiefs were not around. Chiefs has always had the better team. Infact they definitely have the better team this year. No one expected the Bills to be good this year. This a testament to coaching and Josh Allen. With the turnover of the roster before the season. All the injuries during the season, and team to still win more games than last year and is right back in playoff. I have been saying that he is Coach of the year and it’s a shame that all you idiots can’t see the big picture. Right now we don’t have the best team!! But we do have arguably the best player in the league and a damn good coach!!!

[Beast]

26 minutes ago, kirkwoodus13 said:

McDermott is an excellent coach. The bills would have played in a superbowl if Reid and the Chiefs were not around. Chiefs has always had the better team. Infact they definitely have the better team this year. No one expected the Bills to be good this year. This a testament to coaching and Josh Allen. With the turnover of the roster before the season. All the injuries during the season, and team to still win more games than last year and is right back in playoff. I have been saying that he is Coach of the year and it’s a shame that all you idiots can’t see the big picture. Right now we don’t have the best team!! But we do have arguably the best player in the league and a damn good coach!!!

No they don’t.

[Don Otreply]

Good on ya Sean! 
Your “process” dragged a perennial under performing franchise into being a perennial playoff / superbowl contender, we Bills fans owe you big time! 
 

GO BILLS!!!

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

Seems most teams who get that superstar QB often ascend quickly out of know where, make some bold sometimes somewhat risky moves to get over the top (see Diggs, Miller), but more offend it gets them close, but not all the way and puts them in cap trouble.  Coaches and front office folks will also learn from some of their roster building mistakes and do it slightly different after that.  So then the team rebuilds/retools around the QB and some other players which is where the Bills are now.  Based on preseason expectations, think it went better so far than expected.  Bills, Bengals, Dolphins, 49ers all followed that path to name a few.  Think the Bengals and Dolphins are couple years behind the Bills so will be interesting to see how they recover.  Will they quickly bounce back like Bills did or sink into oblivion like many other teams have done over the years.  Dolphins also have the problem of having a QB who is very good, top 10 when healthy, but staying on the field is a problem for him.

 

Why were the Chiefs the exception, likely because they were already a good team before Mahomes ever got there.  Also had a coach with around 15 years experience with roster building (and never winning the SB) before he ever got to KC.  Still took him 7 years there before winning his first SB.   Chiefs didn't have to "grow up fast" like others did as they already had a decent core to build around the QB. 

 

Add to all that little bit of luck, favorable playoff matchups, avoiding key injuries and events and bad times, and not getting hurt by bad calls all help too.

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

Seems most teams who get that superstar QB often ascend quickly out of know where, make some bold sometimes somewhat risky moves to get over the top (see Diggs, Miller), but more offend it gets them close, but not all the way and puts them in cap trouble.  Coaches and front office folks will also learn from some of their roster building mistakes and do it slightly different after that.  So then the team rebuilds/retools around the QB and some other players which is where the Bills are now.  Based on preseason expectations, think it went better so far than expected.  Bills, Bengals, Dolphins, 49ers all followed that path to name a few.  Think the Bengals and Dolphins are couple years behind the Bills so will be interesting to see how they recover.  Will they quickly bounce back like Bills did or sink into oblivion like many other teams have done over the years.  Dolphins also have the problem of having a QB who is very good, top 10 when healthy, but staying on the field is a problem for him.

 

Why were the Chiefs the exception, likely because they were already a good team before Mahomes ever got there.  Also had a coach with around 15 years experience with roster building (and never winning the SB) before he ever got to KC.  Still took him 7 years there before winning his first SB.   Chiefs didn't have to "grow up fast" like others did as they already had a decent core to build around the QB. 

 

Add to all that little bit of luck, favorable playoff matchups, avoiding key injuries and events and bad times, and not getting hurt by bad calls all help too.

 

 

Bengals went to the SB  Burrows 2nd season, Taylor's 3rd and were back in the AFCC game  the next season.....

[Augie]

12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Bengals went to the SB  Burrows 2nd season, Taylor's 3rd and were back in the AFCC game  the next season.....

 

….and now they failed to make the playoffs. I’ve said all along I don’t fear them long-term. Ownership is too cheap to surround him with the parts he needs. I like our future much better than theirs. 

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, Augie said:

 

….and now they failed to make the playoffs. I’ve said all along I don’t fear them long-term. Ownership is too cheap to surround him with the parts he needs. I like our future much better than theirs. 

 

they are in a far tougher division.  The AFCE is the 2nd worst in the NFL. 

 

It's hard to knock an organization that took a new HC and QB to the AFCC twice in a row (SB once) in less time than McD/Josh have been around as "couple of years behind the Bills"....

[DrDawkinstein]

7 hours ago, freddyjj said:

A common mistake here, the 13 second loss was at KC in divisional round after 2021 season.  KC lost to Bengals in AFC championship the week after. 

 

Bills lost to KC in AFC championship after 2020 Covid season.  

 

Not a mistake. Nick said a 3rd home divisional loss WOULD be unacceptable. #1 Bengals in Buffalo in 2022, #2 Chiefs in Buffalo last year, #3 would be this Sunday. And all 3 of those would follow the 2021 13 seconds debacle.

Edited 7 hours ago by DrDawkinstein

[Augie]

17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

they are in a far tougher division.  The AFCE is the 2nd worst in the NFL. 

 

It's hard to knock an organization that took a new HC and QB to the AFCC twice in a row (SB once) in less time than McD/Josh have been around as "couple of years behind the Bills"....

 

Here’s the difference…..I’m looking forward while you are looking backwards. 

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Here’s the difference…..I’m looking forward while you are looking backwards. 

 

well, we all are still looking.....

 

plus, I would love to have Josh "surrounded" by the skill position "parts" "cheap" ownership has surrounded Burrow with (Chase, Higgins, Brown, Gesicki)

Edited 7 hours ago by Mr. WEO

[hondo in seattle]

8 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Unfortunately for McDermott, no matter what good he does in the regular season or Wild Card round the 13 seconds game will be the main thing he's remembered for if the Bills don't at least make it to the Super Bowl.  Josh and this offense was about to win the game despite the porous defense and that's when the late game coaching malpractice by McDermott happened.  It not only cost the Bills an AFC Championship home game but every time we hear how there hasn't been a current AFC QB except for Burrow who's been able to beat Mahomes head to head in the playoffs it reinforces that bad memory of 13 seconds.  Every time our defense puts up a dud or McDermott screws up late game situational management that anger from that game comes rushing back. 

 

The anxiety of having a generational QB not being able to win a Super Bowl here is another reason people want to pivot away from McDermott immediately before Josh's prime years are over.  The dread of going into another drought post Allen is definitely on my mind.  I guess that's my long way of saying it's not easy being a Bills fan.

 

 

I have a different take on 13 seconds.  I'm not sure exactly what went wrong and who was responsible except that, as head coach, McD is accountable for everything the team does.  I give McD credit for getting us into that game.  I give him credit for going toe-to-toe with Reid-Spags duo and nearly winning.  And I blame him for flubbing at the end.  

 

But imagine you're an art expert visiting the Louvre.  When you get close to the masterpieces, you see imperfect brush strokes.  But when you stand back, you see beautiful works of art.

 

"13 Seconds" was a huge disappointment.  But when I stand back, I like McD overall body of work.  I think he gives us a better chance of winning it all than most head coaches.  

 

 

[freddyjj]

51 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Not a mistake. Nick said a 3rd home divisional loss WOULD be unacceptable. #1 Bengals in Buffalo in 2022, #2 Chiefs in Buffalo last year, #3 would be this Sunday. And all 3 of those would follow the 2021 13 seconds debacle.

Not exactly...his mistake was saying 13 seconds game was in 2021 AFC Championship game when in fact it was in Divisional Round.  

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Bengals went to the SB  Burrows 2nd season, Taylor's 3rd and were back in the AFCC game  the next season.....

 

Yup and how's they do lately?  Did they win the SB, did I miss that?  They seem to fit the model of exactly what I described, fast rise, plateau, then falling. 

 

Lets face if the Bills made it to the SB this year and lost, all the McD haters would still be calling for his head.  Many would be disappointed if the Bills won the SB as then they'd not be able to argue he needs to be fired.  But I'm sure they could still find a reason

Edited 6 hours ago by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

[DrDawkinstein]

11 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

Not exactly...his mistake was saying 13 seconds game was in 2021 AFC Championship game when in fact it was in Divisional Round.  

 

Ah, word, that detail slipped by me. Go Bills

[eball]

Great, another "fire McDermott" thread.

 

[gjv]

Well deserved and long overdue.

[hondo in seattle]

There's a certain flavor of Bills fan (you know who you are!), who give credit to Josh when we win and assign blame to McDermott when we lose.

And that's fine.  But it's almost as if we don't have 52 other players, and Sean doesn't do anything to contribute to our wins, and Josh never contributes to our losses, and Beane has nothing to do with any of it.  

 

[Logic]

Sean McDermott: an objectively very good football coach.

In order to be considered a GREAT football coach, we all know he needs to win a championship.

But no matter how you want to look at it, be it win % amongst Bills coaches, win % amongst his peers or historically, consistency of divisional success, consistency of playoff entry...McDermott ranks very favorably. 

Again, the one area where he is not yet GREAT is playoff win % and championship wins. If he checks off those boxes and continues to win as consistently as he does, it is not a stretch to say that he could be considered an all-time GREAT NFL head coach.

Congrats, coach McDermott. 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

They should wait until the end of the year to give this award out.