Who is Buffalo's most under rated player?

[ryguy101]

shakir or johnson

[SoMAn]

Torrence. You rarely hear his name- and that’s a good thing. 

[skibum]

JaMarcus Ingram

[Don Otreply]

I’m tooting the entire O - Line’s horn, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

[buffblue]

Eli Ankou

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

CB Christian Benford for me, this guy never makes the pro bowl, I never hear him whining to the media. When is the last time you said man Christian Benford can't cover whoever the teams #1 WR?  I know there was times he got beat as even elite corners do but I think he must be 1 of the most underrated corners in the NFL. 64 tackles, 1 sack, 2 INT, also Courtland Sutton had 5 catches for 75 yards.

Edited 8 hours ago by BuffaloBillsGospel2014

[warrior9]

6 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

Offense: Mack Hollins

 

Defense: Dorian Williams

Surprised it took this long for Mack to be referenced. 

It seems like the team feeds off this guy (Josh too, of course) but he blocks, he's energetic, he makes plays when he has to, he hard nosed, stands up for his guys,  etc. 

I want him an Ty Johnson signed for 3-5 years. Mack is just one of those guys that feels like a "Buffalo guy." I have a feeling he'll be like a Lorenzo Alexander type for us. Bounced around for a little while, finally found a place where he fits and will end his career here. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Ty Johnson. Allen and Ty have connected on a bunch of highlight reel plays. It started in last seasons regular season Chiefs game and shows no signs off stopping. 

[Long Suffering Fan]

I'm putting another vote in for both Ty and McGovern.  

 

I don't watch/understand line play enough to diagram the difference, but his move to center contributed to the line getting much better.  Ty....he is just amazing at what he does.  He is a back up running back, might be the fastest guy on the team, and might have the best hands on the team.  

 

Fun Fact:  The Buffalo Bills website still lists Amari Cooper as second string behind Mack Hollins.  Not sure what is going on there.

[wnyguy]

13 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Agree.

Shakir is the first really good slot receiver we've had since Beasley. And he turned YAC into a thing again for the Bills.

McGovern is a huge upgrade over Morse. I like Morse, and love how he helped turn one of the worst O lines in the NFL into a good unit. But his best days are behind him, and McGovern has led a really superb unit.

I really like Shakir, I call him the human pinball but I gotta say I was worried when we lost Morse. Right now this O line is playing lights out and McGovern is a key part of that.

[bigK14094]

Underrated goes with the territory in Buffalo.   Small market, and the national media just doesn't care.  Sell more papers and get more clicks covering NY Chicago LA etc.

[KentuckyBillsFan]

Pretty easily Ty Johnson for me... Was considered a depth piece when he was signed for almost nothing and now he's a vitally important cog in the offensive machine

[JP51]

1 hour ago, SoMAn said:

Torrence. You rarely hear his name- and that’s a good thing. 

I considered him... he doesnt (fingers crossed) miss a snap... 

[McMuffin]

Alec Anderson

[nedboy7]

Feels like the team is filled with underrated talent.  Which it is. 

[Captain Hindsight]

Hamlin. Dude is always in the right spot. He’s not a playmaker and doesn’t wow people, but he’s starting because he’s good. It’s not some charity case as fans here suggest

[Ballhawk]

Alec Anderson. Dude comes out on fire and is always head hunting out there. 

[Savage]

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

It depends by who..... 

 

I think you have a group of non-heralded players who are underrated:

Connor McGovern is the leader in the clubhouse in that regard, but David Edwards is in that mix, Reggie Gilliam is in that mix and I think until the last few weeks arguably Ty Johnson too. 

 

Then there is a group that the fanbase generally underrates and indeed hates on at times that are better than their reputation:

The big two here are Greg Rousseau and Ed Oliver. Both first round picks and both among our best players on defense. I know PFF grades are not everything but they were ranked 1st and 3rd among our defensive starters in season grades (Benford was 2nd). Neither is elite and so get hated on but both are critical cogs in this D even though I don't think Oliver has had his best year (he came on strong late and was great the final 5 or 6 weeks). Also in this group though at a lower level is Damar Hamlin. I still maintain he is not a true starting standard NFL talent. But he has not been a total liability this season that some fans would have you think. Some of that is the scheme protecting him but he has clearly played better than Cole Bishop has when he has had opportunities and deserves to start. I think you can throw Dawson Knox in this category too, and there are certainly some fans who will never get past the dropsies he had earlier in his career. His is certainly overpaid for his current usage, which leads to some of the criticism he gets, but I still argue he is underused as a pass catcher (69% of his receptions as a Bill are for 1st downs or touchdowns compared to 49% for Kincaid and his underlying separation metrics are consistently strong) and he has become a critical part of our run game success. 

 

Then lastly there is a group that I think most Bills fans and watchers know are really good but who haven't got the national attention or accolades they deserve to this point:

Here I put Christian Benford who has been one of the best 5 or 6 outside corners in football this year, Khalil Shakir who is pretty much unknown outside of Buffalo circles and Spencer Brown who at worst was the 3rd best right tackle in football in 2024 and yet got not a single all pro vote while guys he is better than in Zach Tom and Brian O'Neill did pick up the scraps behind Penei Sewell and Lane Johnson. 

I definitely agree on the Hamlin take.

he gets it done.

 

[Rocky Landing]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

It depends by who..... 

 

I think you have a group of non-heralded players who are underrated:

Connor McGovern is the leader in the clubhouse in that regard, but David Edwards is in that mix, Reggie Gilliam is in that mix and I think until the last few weeks arguably Ty Johnson too. 

 

Then there is a group that the fanbase generally underrates and indeed hates on at times that are better than their reputation:

The big two here are Greg Rousseau and Ed Oliver. Both first round picks and both among our best players on defense. I know PFF grades are not everything but they were ranked 1st and 3rd among our defensive starters in season grades (Benford was 2nd). Neither is elite and so get hated on but both are critical cogs in this D even though I don't think Oliver has had his best year (he came on strong late and was great the final 5 or 6 weeks). Also in this group though at a lower level is Damar Hamlin. I still maintain he is not a true starting standard NFL talent. But he has not been a total liability this season that some fans would have you think. Some of that is the scheme protecting him but he has clearly played better than Cole Bishop has when he has had opportunities and deserves to start. I think you can throw Dawson Knox in this category too, and there are certainly some fans who will never get past the dropsies he had earlier in his career. His is certainly overpaid for his current usage, which leads to some of the criticism he gets, but I still argue he is underused as a pass catcher (69% of his receptions as a Bill are for 1st downs or touchdowns compared to 49% for Kincaid and his underlying separation metrics are consistently strong) and he has become a critical part of our run game success. 

 

Then lastly there is a group that I think most Bills fans and watchers know are really good but who haven't got the national attention or accolades they deserve to this point:

Here I put Christian Benford who has been one of the best 5 or 6 outside corners in football this year, Khalil Shakir who is pretty much unknown outside of Buffalo circles and Spencer Brown who at worst was the 3rd best right tackle in football in 2024 and yet got not a single all pro vote while guys he is better than in Zach Tom and Brian O'Neill did pick up the scraps behind Penei Sewell and Lane Johnson. 

I’ve noticed you didn’t include Tyler Rapp? Perhaps I’m not remembering things accurately, but I seem to remember you being especially sour on him in the offseason/training camp? Certainly, you were critical of the safety position in as a whole. Personally, I’ve considered Rapp one of the most underrated players since last season, and I think he still is. I have to believe he’s exceeded your expectations, no?

[DaggersEOD]

Tremaine Edmunds obviously. He even makes plays just by being there and I think he graduates HS next year!!

 

But seriously, Ty Johnson #26. This guy has been clutch all year and every time they give him a bigger role, he fills it out very nicely. 
 

Also, I’ve always been a sucker for great hands RBs since the Thurminator.