Who is Buffalo's most under rated player?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 hours ago, Shortchaz said:

He’d qualify for an overrated thread. 

 

 

Exactly my point.

[Mark Vader]

Offense: Mack Hollins

 

Defense: Dorian Williams

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, Governor said:

Cook.

 

Fans think he can be replaced with any 4th rounder and I don’t believe that. His unique skill set and ball security commands a premium that we should be willing to pay.

There's plenty of running back prospects every year that can do what Cook can do.  It's on Beane to find him in the draft.

 

Christian Benford is the most underrated by the casual fans here and overall nationally. 

 

[Scott7975]

By Bills fans.. Knox. By the rest of the league Josh Allen. As proven by "most overrated player"

[Donuts and Doritos]

Connor McGovern

[Kelly to Allen]

Dawson knox and Bernard 

[Pete]

Reggie Gilliam

[BillsBlue]

9 hours ago, HOUSE said:

I am going with RT Spencer Brown .

I don't think there is a better right tackle in the league. The guy is a mauler, destroys pass rushers every week.

My 2nd choice has to be Ray Davis

because he is only a rookie. The Bills got lucky drafting that guy. Great balance and never makes a mental mistake, doesnt fumble either.Plays like a veteran. A 4th round steal, kudos to Brandon Beane.

 

You're right about Spencer he's unreal he's realized his potential he's better than schnowman imo 🤷  my favorite underrated would have to be Von-i think he's back

[NoName]

Jimbo….hes a pro bowl caliber player

[Marlton Bills]

Frank Gore, Jr.  he is going to run for 150 and 2 touchdowns!

[machine gun kelly]

Benford.  He’s one of the elite CB’s in the league.  A 6th round pick who grabbed Elam’s spot from him, and has not disappointed at all.  We still have one of the best DB groups in the league.  Hamlin may not be the most athletic, but plays smarter than many.  Rapp is clearly more athletic, but our CB’s, Taron, Rasul, and Benford have played extremely well.

 

There were other good options mentioned like McGovern who have been stellar.

[CSBill]

I have a few candidates: C McGovern, T Rapp, C Benford, S Brown, Ty Johnson, D. Williams

[Mango]

Hollins as a ST’er.  It getting any votes was criminal. 

[H2o]

10 hours ago, HOUSE said:

I am going with RT Spencer Brown .

I don't think there is a better right tackle in the league. The guy is a mauler, destroys pass rushers every week.

My 2nd choice has to be Ray Davis

because he is only a rookie. The Bills got lucky drafting that guy. Great balance and never makes a mental mistake, doesnt fumble either.Plays like a veteran. A 4th round steal, kudos to Brandon Beane.

 

Yes, but is Spencer Brown good enough to make that wallet appear so you can buy a jersey? THAT is the true test. 

[GunnerBill]

It depends by who..... 

 

I think you have a group of non-heralded players who are underrated:

Connor McGovern is the leader in the clubhouse in that regard, but David Edwards is in that mix, Reggie Gilliam is in that mix and I think until the last few weeks arguably Ty Johnson too. 

 

Then there is a group that the fanbase generally underrates and indeed hates on at times that are better than their reputation:

The big two here are Greg Rousseau and Ed Oliver. Both first round picks and both among our best players on defense. I know PFF grades are not everything but they were ranked 1st and 3rd among our defensive starters in season grades (Benford was 2nd). Neither is elite and so get hated on but both are critical cogs in this D even though I don't think Oliver has had his best year (he came on strong late and was great the final 5 or 6 weeks). Also in this group though at a lower level is Damar Hamlin. I still maintain he is not a true starting standard NFL talent. But he has not been a total liability this season that some fans would have you think. Some of that is the scheme protecting him but he has clearly played better than Cole Bishop has when he has had opportunities and deserves to start. I think you can throw Dawson Knox in this category too, and there are certainly some fans who will never get past the dropsies he had earlier in his career. His is certainly overpaid for his current usage, which leads to some of the criticism he gets, but I still argue he is underused as a pass catcher (69% of his receptions as a Bill are for 1st downs or touchdowns compared to 49% for Kincaid and his underlying separation metrics are consistently strong) and he has become a critical part of our run game success. 

 

Then lastly there is a group that I think most Bills fans and watchers know are really good but who haven't got the national attention or accolades they deserve to this point:

Here I put Christian Benford who has been one of the best 5 or 6 outside corners in football this year, Khalil Shakir who is pretty much unknown outside of Buffalo circles and Spencer Brown who at worst was the 3rd best right tackle in football in 2024 and yet got not a single all pro vote while guys he is better than in Zach Tom and Brian O'Neill did pick up the scraps behind Penei Sewell and Lane Johnson. 

[Royale with Cheese]

The entire offensive line.  Allen was sacked only 15 times and how often do we see him consistently under pressure?  Very rarely.  
 

They keep him clean and they open holes for our RB’s. 
 

They don’t get much credit and instead you’ll hear…Josh has no help and does it all himself.

[HOUSE]

21 minutes ago, H2o said:

Yes, but is Spencer Brown good enough to make that wallet appear so you can buy a jersey? THAT is the true test. 

I said he was underrated BUT he's Not that good. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

11 hours ago, HOUSE said:

I am going with RT Spencer Brown .

I don't think there is a better right tackle in the league. The guy is a mauler, destroys pass rushers every week.

My 2nd choice has to be Ray Davis

because he is only a rookie. The Bills got lucky drafting that guy. Great balance and never makes a mental mistake, doesnt fumble either.Plays like a veteran. A 4th round steal, kudos to Brandon Beane.

 

I haven't read the thread yet but I will after this. Wanted to cast my vote before being influenced.

 

I'd say it's between 3 OL. McGovern,  Edwards or Anderson. 

 

McGovern stepped in for Morse and not only didn't the unit miss a beat it got better. Edwards has been solid. And Anderson has been a key to our running game. 

[GASabresIUFan]

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

There's plenty of running back prospects every year that can do what Cook can do.  It's on Beane to find him in the draft.

No there aren't.  If there were every team would have a couple and they don't.  They don't even have one in most cases.  

[Man with No Name]

I think the fans realize all the contributions from everyone on offense at this point. Ty, Knox, Spencer, Hollins, etc. They're all appreciated and have stood out at various points in the season. 

 

The defense is harder to have that kind of appreciation for. Until last week, our 3rd and long defense was so poor all year, it's difficult to be excited about anyone in the secondary. Granted there have been a lot of injuries, and now we've got the entire band back together!  the opposite of what we rolled into the post season with last year. 

 

Give me one more game to start appreciating those guys!