Marcell Dareus Arrested in Alabama on DV Charges

[JP51]

10 hours ago, GoBills! said:

How does this effect our Comp picks?

New England gets a 3... 

2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

He and Marshawn Lynch are on my list of least favorite Bills.   

Dont forget Willis MaGahee.... 

[colin]

in terms of sheer rareness, a DT who can plug up on runs and rush the passer is the biggest unicorn -- getting a man that big, strong, fast, agile, mobile, flexible, resilient, tough, etc etc is just not common.

 

like, the truth of the matter shines through, really talented guys who get out of bed 330# and fast and strong are just way too rare.  you can tell dareous or haynesworth or peters ( the guy on the panthers, i think nebraska player, him and his brothers are from up the street from where i live!) they have to focus and be smart and work hard, but the reality is they are desired because of their extremely rare physical traits.  they can party, do drugs, be lazy, have attitudes and there is still no one who can do what they do.

 

on DL there is also a mentality that is different than on the OL.  OL have to work as a unit, protect, be consistent.  they can't change the game as a result of one of their individual plays, they need others to also do their job, and it takes timing and practice and such.  a sick DT can blow past his man off the snap and destroy a drive in under 2 seconds.  also, DL have to smash and get smashed and still run down the ball.  a true impact DT might be the most rare person in the NFL.

 

it's also a super miserable job.  concussions, fights, not being a star like the qb or WR, even DEs get more shine.  aaron donald is often said to be the best ever (if he isn't, he's like top 5 at the absolute worst) was on top of the world and recognized, and a workout warrior, and a loved teammate, and paid a ton, and he hung it up with some clear tread still on the tires.  

 

so, i'm not saying MD isn't a sub moron (he is, he's literally too dumb and immature to exist as a functioning human even tho he's a young millionaire in america), but it's gotta be hard to convince a guy to straighten up and fly right when the truth is his god given talent is why anyone gives a crap about him and the moment he can't physically maul nfl giants on a regular basis he will be shipped out with a quickness.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, Dopey said:

Maybe it’s cuz I’m Dopey, but I don’t get the point here. Feels like you picked the wrong thread to try and disparage Beane. I’ll take what Beane has done with this team over fat ass having two good years. Thank you. 

Two wrongs don't make a right.  Dareus going to crap doesn't make Beane's track record of the DL any better. Now if Miller had not blown out his ACL maybe the story would be different.  Oliver hasn't lived up to his contract extension or his draft position but he still is a decent starter that can be very very good for a few games a year.  Star was a massive waste of money.  

Kudos for Beane and McD recognizing Dareus was a lost cause and getting rid of him when they did

[HOUSE]

The guy is 34 years old and out of the NFL for 5 years.

What a waste

[Mr. WEO]

he's 34--right in Beane's sweet spot!    go to the 1 year contract pile McBeane!

[JP51]

10 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

The guy is 34 years old and out of the NFL for 5 years.

What a waste

Totally... its  not like he was Aaron Maybin and totally incapable... he had the tools.. not that I relish him screwing things up cause I dont, I feel bad for him in a way that he made his choices as he did... but now I feel worse for the people who have the misfortune of having to deal with him. The whole thing is kinda sad really... 

[PoundingDog]

The problem with Beane is he didn't try hard enough so far. Oliver and Carter last year is his only investment on DT. I know he put a lot investment in DE position and those who can also play DT. How about some projects there like we invested in O-Line? I agree with colin above that getting a DT who pans out like Chris Jones is the most direct way to improvement your overall defense.

[Madbillsfan]

Imagine if we had police officers when Kelly played.

[ProcessTruster]

16 hours ago, Pete said:

Yes.  Getting rid of him, and others, and replacing them with good people who were overachieving, high effort players helped mold the Bills DNA which pumps through current players veins 

and if the don't win the SB this year,

 

most on this board will be pounding the table to tear it all down and start over with whoever and whatever

[Ethan in Cleveland]

14 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

and if the don't win the SB this year,

 

most on this board will be pounding the table to tear it all down and start over with whoever and whatever

Nah. Unless we get embarrassed on Sunday even those of us that don't think McDermott is the answer realize he isn't going anywhere.  Even I would be willing to give him one more shot with a fresh group of front 7 defenders. 

Plus he already had his scapegoat lined up in the special teams guy. 

[TheBrownBear]

Interesting to look back on the drought years to see how many low character and/or headcase players we brought in.  While I understand that talent is talent and it usually wins out regardless of character, for every guy like Fred Jackson, Fitz, Takeo and Kyle Williams, we had a Dareus, Karlos Williams, Sammy Watkins, Travis Henry, etc.  

 

Maybe I'm just looking at the current roster through rose colored glasses, but it seems like character is very highly emphasized by McBeane.

[machine gun kelly]

My response to drafting Marcel Dumbarss.

 

 

[JP51]

2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

Interesting to look back on the drought years to see how many low character and/or headcase players we brought in.  While I understand that talent is talent and it usually wins out regardless of character, for every guy like Fred Jackson, Fitz, Takeo and Kyle Williams, we had a Dareus, Karlos Williams, Sammy Watkins, Travis Henry, etc.  

 

Maybe I'm just looking at the current roster through rose colored glasses, but it seems like character is very highly emphasized by McBeane.

Totally agree.. Marshawn, Travis Henry, McGahee, Maybin,  Ko "dont you know who I am" Simpson.... lots of problem children and me players.. all about themselves.. 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

20 hours ago, Beast said:

I bet she made fun of his captains hat.

yes, i thought maybe he was arrested for trying to sail a boat on the interstate.

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 09:35 PM by ControllerOfPlanetX

[Comebackkid]

18 hours ago, BigDingus said:

 

We should've just let them continue free lancing then, because that DL was a menace.

 

Remember the stretch of playing Manning (the good one), Brady & Rodgers, all while making them look awful in the process? Pretty sure we still lost some of those games, but the D looked outstanding & the line was racking up a ton of sacks.

 

Didn't 3 of the 4 guys make the Pro Bowl at the same time? Or was that NFL Top 100? Kyle Williams, Mario Williams, Marcel Dareus & Jerry Hughes tore it up until Rex Ryan got there.

probably both.   and yeah they hated playing coverage under rex and just gave quit.  

[Big Turk]

That idiot should have been a 10 time pro bowler with his talent. SMFH

Edited Thursday at 01:40 AM by Big Turk

[BillsPride12]

8 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

Interesting to look back on the drought years to see how many low character and/or headcase players we brought in.  While I understand that talent is talent and it usually wins out regardless of character, for every guy like Fred Jackson, Fitz, Takeo and Kyle Williams, we had a Dareus, Karlos Williams, Sammy Watkins, Travis Henry, etc.  

 

Maybe I'm just looking at the current roster through rose colored glasses, but it seems like character is very highly emphasized by McBeane.

 

5 hours ago, JP51 said:

Totally agree.. Marshawn, Travis Henry, McGahee, Maybin,  Ko "dont you know who I am" Simpson.... lots of problem children and me players.. all about themselves.. 

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