BillsFan130 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: Denver’s defensive metrics this year were on the whole better than Baltimore, significantly better in most regards, more sacks, #3 in rush defense (Ravens #1), much, much better in pass defense. Ravens are very good but they certainly beatable. You're right- however those defences went on different paths. I listened to locked on broncos and they said their defence was a disaster the last 5-6 games. (Minus against the chiefs backups) Meanwhile Baltimore was horrible to start the season, but arguably have been the best defence since week 11. I still have faith in the bills offence- But those defensive stats are a bit misleading , as those defences were/are going in opposite directions 1 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I remember when people tried convincing themselves that Henry was washed up and wouldn't provide Baltimore with any better run game since their run game was already pretty great. He's a freakin cheat code on that team. It's a matchup problem for any team really. My only real hope is that Baltimore has one of those off days they seem to have once every few games or so. 1 1 Quote
Comebackkid Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 hours ago, boater said: Derrick Freaking Henry. That's why they are difficult. 6'2" 247 pounds of difficult to stop. 186 yards against the Steelers. That's probably translates to 125 yards against the Bills---and that's when the Bills are playing well. yeah for all the accolades they gave lamar even after the steelers game you watch and see Henry is their mvp. lamar makes the plays when he has to though and that makes them very hard to defend Quote
PoundingDog Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: I remember when people tried convincing themselves that Henry was washed up and wouldn't provide Baltimore with any better run game since their run game was already pretty great. He's a freakin cheat code on that team. It's a matchup problem for any team really. My only real hope is that Baltimore has one of those off days they seem to have once every few games or so. What ever past history between Bills and Ravens is out of the window in my view because .... Ravens added future HoF Henry who is playing at HoF level right now. The Bills? They added future HoF Von Miller who is just above average these days. That is a big difference. The Ravens also hit jackpot with 2023 practice squad veteran Van Noy. Van Noy never had more than 6.5 sacks in his career up to that point. Then in Baltimore he got 9 sacks last year and 12 this year at age 33. I know the Bills paid Floyd last year to get 9 sacks, but man wouldn't be nice to get Ravens luck on Van Noy. Quote
nedboy7 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Make no mistake about. If the Bills lose this game it’s cause of this board. 1 Quote
Comebackkid Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, bills6969 said: we’re not going to win this game with that gameplan. the best defense against Balt’s offense is keeping them off the field. To do that we need long sustained drives which can only be done with dominant run game that gets 5 ypc like it did against Denver i seriously doubt we are getting 5ypc like we did against denver. balt is way stronger up front than that Quote
folz Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Well, we are home. I think that is a big plus for the Bills to start with. But, yeah, it's a tough match-up...which is why it should be a great game. Below are the team rankings (fyi). Points For: BUF 2 BAL 3 Yards For: BUF 10 BAL 1 Pass Offense: BUF: 9 BAL: 7 Rush Offense: BUF: 9 BAL: 1 Points Against: Buf 12 BAL 9 Yards Against: BUF 17 BAL 10 Rush Defense: BUF 12 BAL 1 Pass Defense: BUF 9 BAL 2 Baltimore leads in almost every category, which is a bit scary. But you could also take a different perspective by looking at the teams' best two wins and worst two losses. Bills best two wins: Kansas City (15-2), Detroit (15-2) Bills worst two losses: Houston (10-7, div winner, still alive in the playoffs); Los Angeles Rams (10-7, div winner, still alive in the playoffs) Ravens best two wins: Buffalo Bills (13-4), Washington (12-5) Ravens worst two losses: Cleveland (3-14); Las Vegas (4-13) Of course, Baltimore won the early head-to-head. But that was week 4 when the Bills were still trying to figure out who they were with all of the new and young players. Remember when the season started, Khalil was the only WR Josh had thrown to in a game. We had two new starting safeties. No Milano, no Bernard, no Taron Johnson for that first matchup. Baltimore doesn't scare me...I think this Bills team can beat anyone, especially at home. But I do expect a really hard-fought, great game. As most people have been saying...it feels like a coin toss game. who is gonna make that extra play, or fewer mistakes; who gets the lucky bounces, etc. Go Bills! 1 Quote
JaCrispy Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Most difficult matchup? Yes… However, strangely, more and more I am feeling like the Bills are going to pull this one out, and shock the world… And I was always skeptical going into this Bills season…I predicted 9-8…And I am the one who often predicted losses during the season… I am actually surprised I feel so positively about this game, because I never like getting my hopes up… I can’t explain it, but I just think we are going to win… 3 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 10 hours ago, PoundingDog said: The match-ups. We don't need to go to the topic of Bills D against Ravens O, do we? Bills D is built to stop the pass and the Ravens O is built around running the ball. So it is kind of like fighting left-handed there. Looking into Bills O against Ravens D. Ravens play 3-4 defense, all 3 linemen are big (over 300 lb). With Roquan Smith and Van Noy having a late career year at 33 year old, it's hard to run the ball --- Ravens is #1 against run in NFL. I think Connor McGovern against their NT Travis Jones is critical if we want to run the ball, or give Josh some room to step up in passing situations. Jones has 20lb over McGovern but believe me, the Bills are in better shape with McGovern against Jones than Morse. On the flip side, we are not likely to pull McGovern like we do with Morse to attack the edge on run plays. We need to run the ball effectively, like 3+ yards per attempt, can't allow the Ravens to tee-up on Josh with Oweh (10 sacks) and Van Noy (12 sacks). We will see Marlon Humphrey's status but he's perennial all pro. Hamilton to me is one of the best secondary player, not just on their team, but the entire league. I think Josh needs to pay close attention to him every snap. It is a tall order - you know the Bills offense needs to find a way to move the ball and score, preferably in time consuming fashion. I know we ran the ball on Broncos which have a good D-line. But the Ravens are another level up. I see the Bills go pass heavy but I think it could lead to a disaster. The last thing we want is that our offense go 3 and out in less than 2 minutes and the Ravens run the ball to consume 7 minutes, even just to kick a field goal. Allen probably has to put superman cape on and just run the ball himself extensively, which means he could be beaten up pretty good this game and ... guess what, Mahomes is waiting at home with one extra days rest the following week. I really want Cook to have his best game of his career. Is that in him? People said the same about Detroit and we smoked them on the road. This is a different team than week 4. Plus we have Taron Johnson and Milano back who missed the first match up. Quote
Comebackkid Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, harmonkillebrew said: https://www.baltimoreravens.com/video/full-highlights-ravens-fall-to-bills-23-20 Ravens are still the same style team. Some different pieces, but there is no reason we can't shut down the run and force Lamar to win it in the air. we couldnt shut down dobbins then and Henry is a lot harder to corral. i think you have to spread out the ravens and pick them off. last game we started out playing small ball that went no where. excited to see what having a healthy team looks like though. Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Most difficult matchup? Yes… However, strangely, more and more I am feeling like the Bills are going to pull this one out, and shock the world… And I was always skeptical going into this Bills season…I predicted 9-8…And I am the one who often predicted losses during the season… I am actually surprised I feel so positively about this game, because I never like getting my hopes up… I can’t explain it, but I just think we are going to win… The Bills look much more loose and relaxed. It sounds corny, but they are having fun out there which makes a difference. Being at Orchard Park is the cherry on top 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Most difficult matchup? Yes… However, strangely, more and more I am feeling like the Bills are going to pull this one out, and shock the world… And I was always skeptical going into this Bills season…I predicted 9-8…And I am the one who often predicted losses during the season… I am actually surprised I feel so positively about this game, because I never like getting my hopes up… I can’t explain it, but I just think we are going to win… I agree. The Bills played without 4 of their defensive starters in the first game and without Cooper. Pass game will be totally different this game. Cooper will eat. 2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: People said the same about Detroit and we smoked them on the road. This is a different team than week 4. Plus we have Taron Johnson and Milano back who missed the first match up. Bernard and Von too 1 Quote
BeastMaster Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 28 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Most difficult matchup? Yes… However, strangely, more and more I am feeling like the Bills are going to pull this one out, and shock the world… And I was always skeptical going into this Bills season…I predicted 9-8…And I am the one who often predicted losses during the season… I am actually surprised I feel so positively about this game, because I never like getting my hopes up… I can’t explain it, but I just think we are going to win… I feel the same way I think there's just alot working in the Bills favor karma wise, health wise, and this team has been in this spot now for what will be the third consecutive season. Baltimore is riding a little too high while beating on flawed opponents and living off of their win against us when they were a desperate 1-2 team at home. This may give them a flase sense that they can handle us without much issue, and that would be a grave mistake IMO This team plays up to their competition, and when they are counted out and disrespected, they show up and remind everyone that they are as good as anyone when it comes down to it It's truly a matter of will McDermott be able to finally get his defense to show up in what will be maybe it's most daunting challenge yet...a powerhouse Ravens offense that is designed to attack an area that has shown to be our weakness at times. For some reason, my mind is telling me that he will get the defense to rise to the moment this time Quote
Ga boy Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 hours ago, H2o said: Every game Baltimore has lost this year has been a game where Henry had 84 yds or fewer. Yes they have the two best running backs in the NFL and one also plays QB. Milano spy on Lamar, jam the middle, and make the refs throw PI flags … they usually let the players play at this point. Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Nah, Piece of Cake. We got this! May be. Quote
billsfan89 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago To be the man you gotta beat the man. Winning a Super Bowl is not easy and you are going to have to win some difficult games against great teams. The Bills have Josh Allen and they have the homefield for this game, they got a beastly offensive line and a lot going for them. Bring on all challengers, no easy outs. Quote
Richard Noggin Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Stop the damn run. That is the basis of everything. Dont run past Lamar, hold Henry to under 100 and we have a very good shot at winning this game. Might part of the problem Baltimore presents be that stopping Henry and stopping Lamar require two somewhat different approaches? To stop Henry, a defense needs to attack and penetrate and stop his legs before he gets going. To stop Lamar, a defense needs to maintain their lanes while collapsing the pocket with discipline and leverage. This necessarily puts specific defenders in conflict on nearly every snap, whether they know it or not. 1 Quote
Prospector Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago We didn’t have Bernard, Milano or Taron last time Quote
Brand J Posted 27 minutes ago Posted 27 minutes ago 36 minutes ago, Prospector said: We didn’t have Bernard, Milano or Taron last time Had all 3 against the Rams (44pts 457 yds) and the Lions (42pts 521 yds). Quote
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