Securing Joe Brady as our OC

[Rich Stadium Original]

Wasn't Josh McDaniels the OC in New England for multiple Super Bowl wins before he moved on?

[Mikie2times]

Just now, VaMilBill said:

Disagree. He is much better than Daboll. 

He has been successful with the greatest offensive talent in college football history at LSU and a Bills team with one of its best offensive lines in history, a Pro Bowl RB and a Hall of Fame QB. He failed in Carolina with a low talent level. His route structures are very basic and Josh has created an absolutely insane amount of off schedule plays this year it’s hard to even know what it looks like without him. I prefer to retain him for continuity and I love how he has gotten Josh away from the three point offense Dorsey had. But I don’t see some mastermind, and in my opinion, if he leaves he will have a very similar fate as Daboll.   

[Don Otreply]

Keeping Joe Brady is as easy as writing a check…, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

[K-9]

28 minutes ago, Bills aPHILLYate said:

I believe we're on borrowed time with Brady as our OC.

There are too many openings for HC this year and he's interviewing for pretty much all of them (Dallas aside for now).

I think he will land one of them especially with a win next week. 

 

Ideally it would be nice to retain him for another year or 2 for continuity sake,  especially after implementing a historic offense 

Out of all the openings still available, only two may be viewed as desirable; the Bears and Jags. And both of those are iffy as it stands currently. IMO, unless a prospective team has their franchise guy at QB already in place, a hot OC looking to move up has no place to go but down. If Brady isn’t convinced that Williams and Lawrence are long term answers, he would be better served by keeping his horse hitched to his current 1st ballot HOF QB and continue to further cement his rep as an offensive mastermind.

[Big Turk]

16 minutes ago, HerdMentality said:

Come on. He’s not a head coach. Not for a while.

 

I wouldn't bet on that...I think he is as good as gone. Every team is looking for the next McVay they can pair up with their young QB for the next decade and have them grow together.

 

They would much rather hire an OC a year too early and let him grow into the HC role than miss our on him.

Edited 22 hours ago by Big Turk

[Saint Doug]

1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

One bad game in these playoffs and most everyone will be ready to tar and feather him

If they have a bad game this playoffs, my bet it’ll be the defense not the offense. 

[Chicken Boo]

32 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

I don’t understand why Kingsbury isn’t mentioned more.  Mariotta looked exactly like Daniels each time he’s gone in.  
 

Seems like the logical fit in Chicago even more so than Ben Johnson - who I think fits Jacksonville or Dallas.  

 

Kingsbury's time in AZ will have him on the outside looking in for a season or 2 more.

 

He's definitely getting another shot.  

Edited 22 hours ago by Chicken Boo

[Big Blitz]

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

I wouldn't bet on that...I think he is as good as gone. Every team is looking for the next McVay they can pair up with their young QB for the next decade and have them grow together.

 

They would much rather hire an OC a year too early and let him grow into the HC role than miss our on him.

 

But other than the Bears which team is that?  
 

All the situations are terrible for a young first time HC.  

 

Raiders don’t seem like that’s what they’d do

Saints - disaster; Glenn

Jags - Ben Johnson 

Dallas - Deon? 
Chicago - Kliff just makes too much sense 

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

But other than the Bears which team is that?  
 

All the situations are terrible for a young first time HC.  

 

Raiders don’t seem like that’s what they’d do

Saints - disaster; Glenn

Jags - Ben Johnson 

Dallas - Deon? 
Chicago - Kliff just makes too much sense 

 

Trust me, I would love it if he got shut out this year...I just don't think it's going to happen.

 

He might be willing to take a job without a QB with the promise they are taking one in this draft.

 

 

Edited 22 hours ago by Big Turk

[Mikie2times]

15 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Kingsbury's time in AZ will have him on the outside looking in for a season or 2 more.

 

He's definitely getting another shot.  

I think Murray is a coach killer. Hell, probably more like a franchise killer.

[Big Blitz]

Brady waits one more year he gets the Bengals job.  

[JGMcD2]

38 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

What job is Ben Johnson going to get that is an excellent placement if he leaves this year. The Pats job is already gone(Maye), it appears the Bears(Williams) are going to go in a different direction so the two best jobs with possible franchise quarterbacks are already gone. The Jets, Raiders, and Saints jobs are complete messes with no QB and in the Saints case no cap space. That leaves the Cowboys, which would be a decent job but an owner who is beyond meddling, or the Jaguars who have a guy who could be good in Lawrence but hasn't shown. That might be his best "good" job, unless he sits out another year and then you have to question whether its worth your time in the next cycle.

Jacksonville is great situation if they move on from Baalke, which it seems like they’re willing to do for Ben Johnson. If Ben Johnson gets to be paired with his desired candidate (rumored to be Lance Newmark) then that checks off the GM box. 
 

The Khan family has shown a tremendous amount of patience with previous coaches like Gus Bradley, Doug Marrone and Doug Pederson. They even seemed reluctant to move on from Urban Meyer until he was accused of physically abusing a player. They’re also more than willing to spend money. This is more than enough to check off the ownership box, especially if they go get him his desired GM. 
 

Then you have Trevor Lawrence who has proven to be inconsistent, but has had flashes of high level play. Doesn’t seem all that different than Goff when he got to Detroit? Now Johnson gets to play around with an offense that features talent like Etienne, Bigsby, Thomas, Kirk, Davis and Engram? Not to mention the 5th pick in the draft. Can you not see him crafting something similar to Detroit? 
 

They have $35M in cap space and only 2 starters slated to hit free agency (Scherff and Cisco). It has the makings of a wonderful situation in an incredibly weak division. He’d have a chance to take the AFC South in year 1. 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by JGMcD2

[longtimebillsfan]

2 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

One bad game in these playoffs and most everyone will be ready to tar and feather him

No most.  Just the few cry babies.

[MJS]

You can't force a guy to stay. He probably has ambitions to be a head coach. You never want to be the organization that is seen as holding guys back. He should have opportunities for advancement. More talent will be attracted to the team that way.

38 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

But other than the Bears which team is that?  
 

All the situations are terrible for a young first time HC.  

 

Raiders don’t seem like that’s what they’d do

Saints - disaster; Glenn

Jags - Ben Johnson 

Dallas - Deon? 
Chicago - Kliff just makes too much sense 

That's how it almost always is, though. The teams with good QBs are not usually firing their coaches.

[LABILLBACKER]

44 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Keeping Joe Brady is as easy as writing a check…, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

The highest paid OC's are Monken & Kafka @ 3M.  Pay Brady 4M and tell him you're not going to get a better qb than Josh.

[Coach Tuesday]

Aaron Kromer is the coach I care about securing.  My only real fear about Brady leaving is what becomes of Kromer.  Maybe he wants to go with him as his OC, or maybe the new OC here wants his own OL guy (which would be asinine but we’ve seen it before).  Kromer is the worry.

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, VaMilBill said:

Observing the Buffalo Bills offense this year has been awesome from not only a stats standpoint, but from the eye test as well.
 

Our offense has been so efficient and I can think of very few plays that I thought were boneheaded calls this season. Only one off the top of my head is the trick play against the Ravens that got Josh throttled. 
 

I think we can all agree that our most important player, Josh, has looked awesome this year. Yeah his stats are a little down, but we are winning with a more balanced approach instead of asking Josh to make magic happen every single game. 
 

What I wonder is if we were to offer Brady a $6 million a year to be our OC and secure him in Buffalo. He’d be making a salary equivalent of the 12th highest paid HC in the NFL. I think he is absolutely perfect for Josh and this is the offense we’ve needed here for so long that has balance and effectiveness.
 

I realize he may want to be a HC and see if that works out for him. But curious why big deals aren’t offered to coordinators more often.  

I’m hoping this is the case- pay the man

[Desert Bills Fan]

Maybe name him assistant head coach / OC , to balance the defensive mind of McD?
would that keep him here?

then Kromer could be assistant OC / O Line coach?
bump them up a notch in the org, and prestige…

[Buffalo_Stampede]

This is where Pegula gives us an advantage. He’s willing to do stuff like this.

 

Joe Brady is only 35. I don’t know why he would leave Josh Allen. 

I doubt Buffalo is his and his wife’s dream destination. So that matters. But he’s already seen how quickly you go from hero to fired in this league. 

 

It’ll be interesting to see what happens with Brady and also Aaron Kromer.

 

[billsfan89]

I don't think there's much the Bills can do with Brady other than hope he sticks around for at least one more season. The current NFL HC openings aren't all that appealing and I think Ben Johnson and some of the veteran coaches have the inside track on the better openings. Just to take a look at the openings. 

1. Jacksonville - Kahn's semi-instance on keeping the GM reeks of a bad organization. Not sure if Joe Brady of 1.5 years with Josh Allen is going to command Kahn to fire the GM and put in his own guy. I think Ben Johnson may have an inside track to getting his GM in there. 
2. Jets- A dumpster fire due to Woody Johnson a coach with options is going to want to stay away from them. 
3. Dallas- Jerry Jones is a meddling owner and he's likely looking for a bigger splash name, I don't see either side liking that fit. 
4. Chicago- Interesting team here but kind of a messy organization situation too. Lots of cooks in the kitchen there also a very tough division and if you don't like Caleb Williams well too bad he's their guy. 
5. NOLA- That team is in cap hell gonna need 2 years to dig out of that fully with no QB, once again a coach with options would stay away. 
6. Raiders- Interesting team but no QB and an insanely tough division and a cap situation that may take a year to dig out of. Tom Brady would have to do a great sell job on that one. 

Supposedly Jacksonville, NOLA, Chicago and the Jets have interviewed Brady although it seems like those teams are casting a wide net on interviews. I think Brady is best off siting out a year and building his knowledge with Josh for one more season. Next year some more appealing jobs could be had like The Giants or Falcons. I get that there's only 32 NFL HC jobs but Brady's got a very good gig to fall back on.