Securing Joe Brady as our OC

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

Yes and no, he was with McVay his first stint for 3 years as an assistant, then took the OC job at Kentucky and worked with Will Levis. They won 10 games which at Kentucky is unheard of and then he came back to be the OC for the Rams after O'Connell left. My question would be why did he leave that to go back to Kentucky after that. Seems to have worked out for him though as he had one of the better offenses in the NFL with the Bucs this year.

Maybe because he didn't call plays in LA. Anyway, good offensive mind. I guess we'll see if he can build a culture, which is what is needed in Jacksonville.

[Lagoon Blues]

Whos on our list if Brady goes?

[Big Blitz]

11 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said:

Whos on our list if Brady goes?

 

Davis Webb 

 

Whoever is directly working with KOC in Minnesota. 

 

Should have a stack of resumes.  
 

 

But no way Brady should start his HC career with New Orleans.  You wait you will be next years Ben Johnson and can pick where to go.  
 

New Orleans would be settling.   

[Process]

Brady didn't talk with Vegas or Dallas right? So it's down to NO or nothing. 

[Bangarang]

31 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Davis Webb 

 

Whoever is directly working with KOC in Minnesota. 

 

Should have a stack of resumes.  
 

 

But no way Brady should start his HC career with New Orleans.  You wait you will be next years Ben Johnson and can pick where to go.  
 

New Orleans would be settling.   

 

Webb is a joke right? He'll likely get a shot at some point but it definitely won't be now, at least not for us. 

[Doc Brown]

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Turns out Coen WILL be the Jags Head Coach after all. All it took was a firing of Trent Baalke. 

 

https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1882567741439422629

 

He is in the building. Feeling growing that its his job.

This whole saga sounds like a Coen brothers movie.

[Big Turk]

Looks like Brady is about to be shut out...only 2 more openings...Raiders which I can't see him taking due to their QB situation and Saints, which I also can't see him taking for the same reason.

 

McCarthy expected to go to the Saints and either Todd Monken or Pete Carroll expected to go to the Raiders.

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Turns out Coen WILL be the Jags Head Coach after all. All it took was a firing of Trent Baalke. 

 

https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1882567741439422629

 

He is in the building. Feeling growing that its his job.

 

He has informed the Bucs he is taking the job.

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Looks like Brady is about to be shut out...only 2 more openings...Raiders which I can't see him taking due to their QB situation and Saints, which I also can't see him taking for the same reason.

 

McCarthy expected to go to the Saints and either Todd Monken or Pete Carroll expected to go to the Raiders.

I wouldn't rule Brady out for the Saints job with him working there a year and his time at LSU.  I think it's his job if he wants it as the Saints pry see a young Sean Payton.

[Pete]

New Orleans is in cap hell, and that’s a ***** spot for Brady.  Ben Johnson has a QB, some cap room, some nice draft picks, and some young talent on the team- it’s a much better situation to succeed.  Brady should wait for the right situation.  He might be better served waiting a year

[Big Turk]

3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I wouldn't rule Brady out for the Saints job with him working there a year and his time at LSU.  I think it's his job if he wants it as the Saints pry see a young Sean Payton.

 

Why would you want it is the question? Far better situations will be available to him coming up in the future.

[Gunvald's Husse]

28 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Why would you want it is the question? Far better situations will be available to him coming up in the future.

Exactly this. In the past, someone might have jumped at the first chance offered to be a HC but, as the Ben Johnson situation shows, staying put in a decent place with a chance to add to your résumé isn't going to hurt your chances of getting a job you actually want (and I suspect he is hoping for the Bengals to continue to underperform and for Zac Taylor position to open up after next season) 

[Big Turk]

Well hopefully Saints ownership doesn't feel the same as their writers do...3 of the 5 want Brady as their next HC...

 

I just find it hard to believe he would go there to take over a bad roster and no real QB with tons of cap issues. Makes no sense to take a job where you are set up to fail.

 

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/lists/saints-head-coach-cowboys-mike-mccarthy-joe-brady-aaron-glenn-jets-reaction/

[Dan Darragh]

Best way to keep Brady is to win on Sunday and keep him fully occupied until Feb. 9

[ndirish1978]

Pete Carroll signed with the Raiders so Saints only job left?

[wppete]

Gut feeling is the NO Saints are waiting on him to hire as their next HC. 

[Utah John]

A lot of people thought the sky was falling when Daboll left.  And in truth Daboll did have a lot to do with Josh developing so well and so fast.  But, the Bills kept on winning after Daboll left, and they'll keep on winning after Brady leaves, whenever that is, hopefully not for a while.  

 

Teams work hard to figure out why a particular opponent is successful, and they scheme up ways to counter what the successful team is doing.  Some DC is going to figure out a weak spot or two of Brady, and the rest of the league will copy it, and either he'll stick with what he's been doing and slip down a notch, or he'll keep on creating new stuff to maintain his edge.  Sooner or later even the most creative OCs run out of new stuff, or their good players get old/paid/injured/traded.  No one keeps it up forever.  Brady has the great good fortune to be the OC when the Bills finally put together a strong O line.  In a couple years, maybe Dawkins has lost it or Brown's back acts up or someone else leaves as a FA.  This stuff happens, and when it does, the O line won't be as good, and suddenly the OC won't seem so smart.  Or, God forbid, Josh gets injured and loses his ability to run past or through defenders.  

 

Brady deserves all the praise he's getting, and if he gets a HC chance out of this year, I think he'll take it.  A year from now is a very long time, and his stock could take a huge tumble -- but probably won't get any higher than it is now.  

3 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

Best way to keep Brady is to win on Sunday and keep him fully occupied until Feb. 9

The flip side of that is that Spags would be free to take the Saints job.  The sooner that guy is off the Chiefs, the better.  He's just a great DC and he's done a better job than anyone of slowing down Josh.  

3 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Well hopefully Saints ownership doesn't feel the same as their writers do...3 of the 5 want Brady as their next HC...

 

I just find it hard to believe he would go there to take over a bad roster and no real QB with tons of cap issues. Makes no sense to take a job where you are set up to fail.

 

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/lists/saints-head-coach-cowboys-mike-mccarthy-joe-brady-aaron-glenn-jets-reaction/

Every coach thinks they can be like Dan Campbell, walking into a sewage pond and coming out with a mansion.  Usually they just ruin their shoes.

[Big Turk]

4 minutes ago, Utah John said:

A lot of people thought the sky was falling when Daboll left.  And in truth Daboll did have a lot to do with Josh developing so well and so fast.  But, the Bills kept on winning after Daboll left, and they'll keep on winning after Brady leaves, whenever that is, hopefully not for a while.  

 

Teams work hard to figure out why a particular opponent is successful, and they scheme up ways to counter what the successful team is doing.  Some DC is going to figure out a weak spot or two of Brady, and the rest of the league will copy it, and either he'll stick with what he's been doing and slip down a notch, or he'll keep on creating new stuff to maintain his edge.  Sooner or later even the most creative OCs run out of new stuff, or their good players get old/paid/injured/traded.  No one keeps it up forever.  Brady has the great good fortune to be the OC when the Bills finally put together a strong O line.  In a couple years, maybe Dawkins has lost it or Brown's back acts up or someone else leaves as a FA.  This stuff happens, and when it does, the O line won't be as good, and suddenly the OC won't seem so smart.  Or, God forbid, Josh gets injured and loses his ability to run past or through defenders.  

 

Brady deserves all the praise he's getting, and if he gets a HC chance out of this year, I think he'll take it.  A year from now is a very long time, and his stock could take a huge tumble -- but probably won't get any higher than it is now.  

The flip side of that is that Spags would be free to take the Saints job.  The sooner that guy is off the Chiefs, the better.  He's just a great DC and he's done a better job than anyone of slowing down Josh.  

Every coach thinks they can be like Dan Campbell, walking into a sewage pond and coming out with a mansion.  Usually they just ruin their shoes.

 

He at least had a good QB tho...

[Utah John]

18 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

He at least had a good QB tho...

Yeah, the most important thing.  And even with Goff, the Lions still pretty much stunk under Campbell too, initially.  The turnaround that followed was amazing, and probably not duplicatable.  

[Doc Brown]

7 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Why would you want it is the question? Far better situations will be available to him coming up in the future.

Saints have a history of giving head coaches a long leash.   They also play in a weak conference without any elite QB's.  Plus, I'm sure it pays well.

6 hours ago, Gunvald's Husse said:

Exactly this. In the past, someone might have jumped at the first chance offered to be a HC but, as the Ben Johnson situation shows, staying put in a decent place with a chance to add to your résumé isn't going to hurt your chances of getting a job you actually want (and I suspect he is hoping for the Bengals to continue to underperform and for Zac Taylor position to open up after next season) 

You also run the risk of being another Byron Leftwich or Bobby Slowik. 

[Big Turk]

Just now, Doc Brown said:

Saints have a history of giving head coaches a long leash.   They also play in a weak conference without any elite QB's.  Plus, I'm sure it pays well.

 

With no chance of winning a Super Bowl.  If I am taking a promotion it's not going to be with a team that needs a 3 year rebuild or more.  Wait for someone else to get that crap out of the way and then they get fired and THEN take the job...like Eberflus did in Chicago.