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1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Here are last year's voters.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/heres-the-full-list-of-the-50-ap-awards-voters

 

Emmanuel Acho, FS1
Greg Auman, Fox Sports
Howard Balzer, PHNX radio
Jarrett Bell, USA Today
Dave Birkett, Detroit Free Press
Tom Brady, Fox Sports
Tedy Bruschi, ESPN
Vic Carucci, WGRZ radio
Mark Craig, Minneapolis Star Tribune
Tom Curran, NBC Sports Boston
Charles Davis, CBS Sports
Nate Davis, USA Today
Howard Deneroff, Westwood One
Tony Dungy, NBC Sports
Jori Epstein, Yahoo Sports
Boomer Esiason, CBS Sports
Doug Farrar, USA Today Sports Media
Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk
Reuben Frank, NBC Sports Philadelphia
Rich Gannon, SiriusXM
Jonathan Jones, CBS Sports
Lindsay Jones, The Ringer
Mike Jones, The Athletic
Clark Judge, Talk of Fame Network
Ira Kaufman, JoeBucsFan.com
Mina Kimes, ESPN
Peter King, NBC Sports
Pat Kirwan, SiriusXM
Jeff Legwold, ESPN
Jim Miller, SiriusXM
Sam Monson, Pro Football Focus
Bruce Murray, SiriusXM
Gary Myers, NFL author
Laura Okmin, Fox Sports
Dan Orlovsky, ESPN
Nick Pavlatos, SiriusXM
Dan Pompei, The Athletic
Nora Princiotti, The Ringer
Lorenzo Reyes, USA Today
Charles Robinson, Yahoo Sports
Dianna Russini, The Athletic
Mike Sando, The Athletic
Aaron Schatz, FTN Network
Adam Schein, CBS Sports
Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
Chris Simms, NBC Sports
Armando Salguero, Outkick.com
Mike Tirico, NBC Sports
Ben Volin, Boston Globe
Charean Williams, Pro Football Talk

 

Bolded are Lamar voters if I had to guess

I gotta say after looking at this list, and having listened to a number of them, I'm seeing alot of Josh voters. I'm thinking now the 31-18 advantage in AP voting, was much tighter in Josh's direction for MVP.

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18 hours ago, peterpan said:

So I never understand this.  Why does the NFL allow a third party group of sportscasters and journalists decide who is the NFL MVP and NFL All Pro(s)??  Wouldn’t the NFL want to control that list?

 

 I feel like each teams GM and/or Head Coach should get the votes, with a rule that you can’t vote for anyone on your own team. 
 

this reminds me of how they used to award the college football “National Champion “.   Two polls- and coaches poll and the journalists poll.  Uhh which group do you think knew more about the best football team? The football coaches or the nerds in the press box? 

 

at least these days, it seems like more and more former players have votes.  

 

 

Maybe you should stick to sprinkling pixie dust?  In all pro sports,   MVP is chosen by the sports writers.   

Posted
17 hours ago, Rew said:

It's not a league award.  It is literally the Associated Press's list of awards that they made up and award how they see fit.  The NFL has neither the ability, or desire to stop outside parties from discussing and driving traffic to the NFL.  There are other MVP awards given, like PFWA, PFF, yahoo, and other media orgs.  

 

The only thing that makes the AP unique is that the NFL decided over the last decade to host the "NFL Honors" as an additional league event where 20ish awards (most or all from 3rd parties) are announced and the AP was given the honor of presenting a series of their awards.  I suppose you could consider these "sanctioned" by the NFL.  The AP (and other media) has a bunch of awards that they give outside of NFL honors (like All Pro).

This is a perfect explanation.  To add to it, it's only "sanctioned" because player contracts mention it.

 

I could start my own MVP award.  No one would care, but I could.  (And I'd give it to Dan Campbell even though he's not a player.)

1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

Vic Carucci, WGRZ radio

 

WGRZ radio is not a thing.

Posted
17 hours ago, MJS said:

I actually think the former players are the problem. I think they are more likely to vote for the guys they like and are friends with versus the "nerds" who will look at it more objectively and without as much bias. Many of the former players are terrible analysts and got their jobs because of their names, not because they are good journalists or football analysts. Some of them do minimal work and collect a paycheck. That being said, some of them are pretty good, like Orlovsky.

It's a fraternity

 

You're either a part of it or you're not

Posted
23 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Here are last year's voters.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/heres-the-full-list-of-the-50-ap-awards-voters

 

Emmanuel Acho, FS1
Greg Auman, Fox Sports
Howard Balzer, PHNX radio
Jarrett Bell, USA Today
Dave Birkett, Detroit Free Press
Tom Brady, Fox Sports
Tedy Bruschi, ESPN
Vic Carucci, WGRZ radio
Mark Craig, Minneapolis Star Tribune
Tom Curran, NBC Sports Boston
Charles Davis, CBS Sports
Nate Davis, USA Today
Howard Deneroff, Westwood One
Tony Dungy, NBC Sports
Jori Epstein, Yahoo Sports
Boomer Esiason, CBS Sports
Doug Farrar, USA Today Sports Media
Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk
Reuben Frank, NBC Sports Philadelphia
Rich Gannon, SiriusXM
Jonathan Jones, CBS Sports
Lindsay Jones, The Ringer
Mike Jones, The Athletic
Clark Judge, Talk of Fame Network
Ira Kaufman, JoeBucsFan.com
Mina Kimes, ESPN
Peter King, NBC Sports
Pat Kirwan, SiriusXM
Jeff Legwold, ESPN
Jim Miller, SiriusXM
Sam Monson, Pro Football Focus
Bruce Murray, SiriusXM
Gary Myers, NFL author
Laura Okmin, Fox Sports
Dan Orlovsky, ESPN
Nick Pavlatos, SiriusXM
Dan Pompei, The Athletic
Nora Princiotti, The Ringer
Lorenzo Reyes, USA Today
Charles Robinson, Yahoo Sports
Dianna Russini, The Athletic
Mike Sando, The Athletic
Aaron Schatz, FTN Network
Adam Schein, CBS Sports
Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
Chris Simms, NBC Sports
Armando Salguero, Outkick.com
Mike Tirico, NBC Sports
Ben Volin, Boston Globe
Charean Williams, Pro Football Talk

 

 

 

There are some really bright folks on this list.  And a few who's opinions I don't trust.  And a few I don't know.  

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On 1/13/2025 at 8:16 PM, peterpan said:

So I never understand this.  Why does the NFL allow a third party group of sportscasters and journalists decide who is the NFL MVP and NFL All Pro(s)??  Wouldn’t the NFL want to control that list?

 

 I feel like each teams GM and/or Head Coach should get the votes, with a rule that you can’t vote for anyone on your own team. 
 

this reminds me of how they used to award the college football “National Champion “.   Two polls- and coaches poll and the journalists poll.  Uhh which group do you think knew more about the best football team? The football coaches or the nerds in the press box? 

 

at least these days, it seems like more and more former players have votes.  


It is the AP, but only the AP votes on 1st team all pros.  There are a lot of other voters for the MVP.  Sal mentioned on the morning show Monday, and I know he Movin the Chains guys vote as well.

 

if they rob Josh again, bleep them.  The best response is beating the Ravens by 20.

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You know the HOF is also voted in by media members as well.  

 

Hall of Fame inductees are elected by a 49-person Selection Committee, which are revealed near the Super Bowl. There is a Selector from the city of each NFL team, plus 17 additional "at-large Selectors."

There are no term limits for members of the committee, but they are annually reviewed by the Hall of Fame's Board of Trustees

 

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NFL Awards are nice to have.  I do think many fans are taking them way too seriously.

Let's remember that it's sportswriters that vote and sportswriters are the ones making this a bigger thing than it is.

 

Hmmmm, maybe they just want to be more important than they really are and getting more clicks by making it a "controversy",

which also gets them more $s.  I give all this only a modest amount of attention.

 

Go Bills.

Whoop the Ravens!

 

 

Posted
23 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

I gotta say after looking at this list, and having listened to a number of them, I'm seeing alot of Josh voters. I'm thinking now the 31-18 advantage in AP voting, was much tighter in Josh's direction for MVP.

Only gotta have a handful of Lamar voters think the mvp is more than stats. 

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