msw2112 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) 18 hours ago, klos63 said: We had first and goal at the 2. A TD would have been preferred. Can't do that in a close game. I agree - but will give Mack the benefit of the doubt and assume that he was aware of the situation when he did what he did - in other words, had it been a one-score game, he would not have done it. Aside from this play, Hollins has been a great add for the Bills. He's made a bunch of clutch catches including several TDs, he blocks in the run game, he's great on special teams, and he brings a great deal of character/personality/intangibles to the team that it needs. And as to special teams specifically, having Hollins be a gunner who can ALSO play WR, the Bills are not paying and wasting a roster spot on a guy like Taiwan Jones, who was great on special teams, but contributed absolutely zero elsewhere. Edited January 13 by msw2112 1 Quote
Doc Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) 3 hours ago, Warcodered said: Watch it again he kicks his foot loose, does it hit the guy, sure, but that doesn't happen if the guy isn't pulling his leg messing with his balance. I think that in the process of walking over him, Surtain puts his hand on Hollins' leg and Hollins probably thinks he's going to grab it so he tries to shake it free and ends up kicking him in the chest. That's what drew the flag. Edited January 13 by Doc 2 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) 59 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: That’s a bold statement (literally). He’s a well-rounded WR, but come on!! Cook and the O-line have more to do with this offense being great because they have taken so much pressure off Josh, allowing him to be patient and methodical for the first time in his career. Didn’t say it’s great because of Mack Hollins. I’ve never seen a great offense with a WR like Mack Hollins leading in snaps. Its wild. There isn’t a defense in the league that will pay attention to Hollins. Edited January 13 by Buffalo_Stampede 2 Quote
Warcodered Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Doc said: I think that in the process of walking over him, Surtain puts his hand on Hollins' leg and Hollins probably thinks he's going to grab it so he tries to shake it free and ends up kicking him in the chest. That's what drew the flag. Except in the replay from the sideline we see Surtain wrap his arm around Hollins leg. Quote
Chaos Posted January 13 Posted January 13 9 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Except in the replay from the sideline we see Surtain wrap his arm around Hollins leg. After Hollins pushes Surtain's head. 2 Quote
Drew21PA Posted January 13 Author Posted January 13 21 hours ago, klos63 said: We had first and goal at the 2. A TD would have been preferred. Can't do that in a close game. 31-7….close…ummm game - right Quote
klos63 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 27 minutes ago, Drew21PA said: 31-7….close…ummm game - right Right, I said in a close game, not this game. 1 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 14 Posted January 14 23 hours ago, Warcodered said: I mean what do you think happens when you try to step forward and someone or something pulls on your leg, it ***** with your balance and you kick out. never happened. Quote
3rdand12 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 3 hours ago, msw2112 said: I agree - but will give Mack the benefit of the doubt and assume that he was aware of the situation when he did what he did - in other words, had it been a one-score game, he would not have done it. Aside from this play, Hollins has been a great add for the Bills. He's made a bunch of clutch catches including several TDs, he blocks in the run game, he's great on special teams, and he brings a great deal of character/personality/intangibles to the team that it needs. And as to special teams specifically, having Hollins be a gunner who can ALSO play WR, the Bills are not paying and wasting a roster spot on a guy like Taiwan Jones, who was great on special teams, but contributed absolutely zero elsewhere. Hollins is an asset to this Team. Not a liability the coaching staff need to work around. He adds value of many sorts to the Bills. Great fit in Buffalo. Your points are well taken. But not sure he is so cerebral as to Not let P. Surtain jr mess with him a bit lol. This might have been the case. love his attitude regardless ! Sometimes ya just gotta 😋 2 Quote
saundena Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 1/12/2025 at 6:06 PM, Drew21PA said: that taunt reminded me so much of Stevie Johnson’s why so serious celebration in response to Patrick Surtain running his mouth all week What was Sustain saying all week? Quote
Doc Posted January 14 Posted January 14 11 minutes ago, saundena said: What was Sustain saying all week? He was just pulling our leg... 3 2 Quote
Drew21PA Posted January 14 Author Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Doc said: He was just pulling our leg... See what you did there 2 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 1/12/2025 at 7:06 PM, Drew21PA said: I absolutely love this guys game! tough - clutch catches and scrappy attitude with opponents that taunt reminded me so much of Stevie Johnson’s why so serious celebration in response to Patrick Surtain running his mouth all week coukdnt have drew it up better than for Mack to make that catch against Pat stevie pass on the reigns - WHY So Serious shirt incoming Definitely the best offseason addition. U can tell his team mates love him. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Definitely the best offseason addition. U can tell his team mates love him. I think so. He’s our WR1. He’s been a very important player. I would’ve laughed at anyone telling me Mack Hollins would lead our WR’s in snaps. Edited January 14 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 14 Posted January 14 12 hours ago, Doc said: He was just pulling our leg... 1 1 Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 14 Posted January 14 On 1/12/2025 at 7:06 PM, Drew21PA said: I absolutely love this guys game! tough - clutch catches and scrappy attitude with opponents that taunt reminded me so much of Stevie Johnson’s why so serious celebration in response to Patrick Surtain running his mouth all week coukdnt have drew it up better than for Mack to make that catch against Pat stevie pass on the reigns - WHY So Serious shirt incoming In this case though Hollins can CATCH the ball with regularity. Dude is a baller Quote
JP51 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 21 hours ago, Pete said: I’d be more worried about Reid Ferguson getting taunting penalties Or Aaron Rodgers getting Personal Fo... oh wait... LOL Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 14 Posted January 14 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think so. He’s our WR1. He’s been a very important player. I would’ve laughed at anyone telling me Mack Hollins would lead our WR’s in snaps. Reminds me a lot of David Nelson, but a better version. Great blocker and solid hands/above average RZ target. I won’t lie, I didn’t expect him to do much. Another solid trait is he’s a great teammate and beings everyone closer together. Makes the locker room environment more enjoyable and more reason other guys might want to stick around. Compare Allen’s demeanor to how he was during the Diggs years. He seems a lot less stressed. 1 Quote
Doc Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Was totally unenthused about the signing. Had never really heard of him and saw he never really produced much in the way of stats. He's an excellent WR4. I'd re-sign him at the same salary, maybe slightly more. Quote
3rdand12 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 6 hours ago, Doc said: Was totally unenthused about the signing. Had never really heard of him and saw he never really produced much in the way of stats. He's an excellent WR4. I'd re-sign him at the same salary, maybe slightly more. Mack who ? I agreed. Another Beane back end roster fill But ! Found his home perhaps ? Lucky Dog, that Mack Hollins 😉 Quote
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