Bills vs Ravens Divisional Round

[transplantbillsfan]

This whole Zay Flowers thing seems like gamesmanship on Harbaugh's part.

 

Didn't practice all week including today other than a small little workout.

 

If he plays, seems like he'll be a bit hobbled.  Maybe we actually want him to play in that case.

[Beast]

Besides just making a tackle, the Bills really have to try to punch out the ball against Jackson and Henry. Not just for the potential turnover but also getting punched in the arms and hands can be extremely painful when it is frigid.

[boyst]

no one is talking about our offense. the more i dive into it i want to talk about it more.

 

humphrey playing solid at nickel vs. outside i think is huge. shakir may be limited to his effectiveness but mixing kincaid and knox in there against him could be nice. get the ball otuside and run at humphrey.

[CaseyatBat]

I never knew Erik Tyler or Tucker or whatever was such a football genius 

[Beck Water]

48 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

not to be disrespectful, but no, it isnt.

 

It's not disrespectful to say that, but it's more in keeping with a discussion board if you put a little more into it like, why that's your belief.

 

I'm not saying I think it's likely, but I think, meaning no disrespect, that Hamlin can totally get trucked by Henry especially as the game wears on.  

If it comes down to Henry is killing us and Flowers isn't playing, I think it's possible.

Edited 5 hours ago by Beck Water

[Son of a K-Gun]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Anderson is the type of player where even if you amputated his arm, he would be out there playing. 
 

hoping Davis can clear by tomorrow!!! 

 

I have a feeling that if Alec Anderson had his arm amputated, he would be out there playing and swinging that amputated arm like a baseball bat at an opponent.

 

[Beck Water]

2 minutes ago, CaseyatBat said:

I never knew Erik Tyler or Tucker or whatever was such a football genius 

 

Coming onto a Bills fan board and getting a guys name wrong twice ending in "whatever" then saying "I never knew ....was such a football genius" makes you look tuff and genyus (not)

Let me help you out with what the rest of us know and Google could tell you.  Erik Turner is a former college player and HS coach/scout who started a Bills-centered media company called "Cover 1" with the goal of "making the X's and O's of football more accessible to fans".   Part of his goal was to help continue to grow his own knowledge of the game.

He's also really gotten into analytics of recent years. 

We have a couple of guys posting here (not often enough) who are better X's and O's guys and better evaluators of play, but in general, Turner knows something and his stuff is worth watching.

 

[freddyjj]

50 minutes ago, Logic said:

Crosby has stated (recently) that he thought the Bills were going to draft him.

I also remember talk that the Bills had spent a bunch of time on him pre-draft that year and really liked him. The Bills draft visit researchers at the time had him on the short list of guys to keep on eye on, based on the Bills interest in him. The Bills closest pick to Crosby was Dawson Knox, who they selected in the 3rd round. Crosby went in the 4th, and the Bills didn't have another pick until well after Crosby was gone.

It's fun to imagine an alternate timeline where the Bills had drafted Crosby, but I think the only way it realistically could've happened is if they had taken him instead of Dawson Knox.

Crosby has also sought help for alcoholism and has been in recovery for a few years now.  Admirable thing as hard to do, especially for a celebrity or professional athlete. 

[CaseyatBat]

7 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Coming onto a Bills fan board and getting a guys name wrong twice ending in "whatever" then saying "I never knew ....was such a football genius" makes you look tuff and genyus (not)

Let me help you out with what the rest of us know and Google could tell you.  Erik Turner is a former college player and HS coach/scout who started a Bills-centered media company called "Cover 1" with the goal of "making the X's and O's of football more accessible to fans".   Part of his goal was to help continue to grow his own knowledge of the game.

He's also really gotten into analytics of recent years. 

We have a couple of guys posting here (not often enough) who are better X's and O's guys and better evaluators of play, but in general, Turner knows something and his stuff is worth watching.

 

Exactly which is why I said I didn’t know he was a genius, thanks for letting me know he, in fact, is.

 

i agree anyway I think we win by 2-3 TDs

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

Crosby has also sought help for alcoholism and has been in recovery for a few years now.  Admirable thing as hard to do, especially for a celebrity or professional athlete. 

 

So did Poyer

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, CaseyatBat said:

 

i dunno who erik turner cover 1 is, strange last name btw, but 4 yards per carry isn't a good thing. The Ravens will 4 yards per carry it to the endzone if that's really the desired outcome

 

If you google Erik Turner Cover 1, this is the top hit.  

https://www.cover1.net/about-cover-1/

He's pretty well known in the Bills fan community and certainly on this bulletin board.  

 

The point of limiting the average ypc is, it's an average.  Henry is gonna get his.  But if breaks a couple of long runs that skew the average and the average is 4 ypc, it means he's being stuffed enough of the time to get his team off the field.

[Beck Water]

3 minutes ago, CaseyatBat said:

Exactly which is why I said I didn’t know he was a genius, thanks for letting me know he, in fact, is.

 

i agree anyway I think we win by 2-3 TDs

 

Do you now.  

 

No, I wouldn't call Turner a genius but he does know ball most of the time.

[Allen2Moulds]

I just saw a video posted by Dan Orlovsky, of the 6 oline, 2TE and FB offense.  We can probably count Ricard as oline number 7.  Pitt for some reason, even with 0 WR's on the field, playing 2 high, and a 3rd defender, pretty far back as well.  With that look, we wouldn't you implement a goal line defense. Dan O, even says, that the O is basically a goaline offense formation. 

 

I've also seen a lot of discussion about playing Dorian, at the expense of Taron.  We need to have a package that puts our 11 best defensive players on the field against the Ravens.  I would rather had look with Taron over Hamlin.  I understand that Taron is not a safety, but the defense is all about zones.  I think we get stuck on titles a little too much at times.  

[YoloinOhio]

Todays national sports media would have you believe only miracles will lead to the Bills beating a team that somehow lost 5 times this year, two of those to teams drafting top 5 this year. 

[Goin Breakdown]

31 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

This whole Zay Flowers thing seems like gamesmanship on Harbaugh's part.

 

Didn't practice all week including today other than a small little workout.

 

If he plays, seems like he'll be a bit hobbled.  Maybe we actually want him to play in that case.

It feels like one of those weeks where we talk about how bad the another teams running game is and then they break records on the ground. Or we talk all week about how bad the other teams pass defense is and we only complete 12 out of 40 attempts. I know it's not alway that way. I'm nervous about the smokescreen and then all a sudden he's bustin Huge plays for multiple TDs. Where's the wood?  

[CaseyatBat]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

If you google Erik Turner Cover 1, this is the top hit.  

https://www.cover1.net/about-cover-1/

He's pretty well known in the Bills fan community and certainly on this bulletin board.  

 

The point of limiting the average ypc is, it's an average.  Henry is gonna get his.  But if breaks a couple of long runs that skew the average and the average is 4 ypc, it means he's being stuffed enough of the time to get his team off the field.

ok well I disagree, I think the goal should be to shut him down better and not expect that he’s gonna have an easy 4yards per carry day.

25 carries and he has a 100 yard day. Bills will lose if Henry goes over 100 IMO

 

But I don’t think the Bills will!

 

[Pete]

Alec Anderson Full Participant today!

[PoundingDog]

I am buying into the theory that the Bills D may not be as bad as they showed in the regular season, like the first Ravens game. Part of it is injury - we never had Milano looking as good as he was in the Denver game, and throughout the year, we had different people out, but for this Sunday, we are at full strength. Other part is effort that is tied to urgency. A large part of the defensive play is effort, not just on Sundays, but Monday thru Saturday as well. For a unit that is kind of shamed on TV and radio throughout the week, I think the guys will put max effort in.

 

If I have to guess, I'd say the D comes out Sunday night on fire, and McDermott and Babich unveil some new wrinkles to catch Jackson and Henry by surprise a bit. But the talent gap is still there. In the 2nd half, they adjusted and starting to take it to us, like everyone expected.

 

So here is the tricky part. Can the offense go full blast while the defense has its way? If we put a couple of scores on them and ahead as much, it could change the whole game. If, like the last Ravens game that it takes the 2nd half for the offense to hit its stride, then we are back to square one on a tight game.  

[klos63]

1 minute ago, PoundingDog said:

I am buying into the theory that the Bills D may not be as bad as they showed in the regular season, like the first Ravens game. Part of it is injury - we never had Milano looking as good as he was in the Denver game, and throughout the year, we had different people out, but for this Sunday, we are at full strength. Other part is effort that is tied to urgency. A large part of the defensive play is effort, not just on Sundays, but Monday thru Saturday as well. For a unit that is kind of shamed on TV and radio throughout the week, I think the guys will put max effort in.

 

If I have to guess, I'd say the D comes out Sunday night on fire, and McDermott and Babich unveil some new wrinkles to catch Jackson and Henry by surprise a bit. But the talent gap is still there. In the 2nd half, they adjusted and starting to take it to us, like everyone expected.

 

So here is the tricky part. Can the offense go full blast while the defense has its way? If we put a couple of scores on them and ahead as much, it could change the whole game. If, like the last Ravens game that it takes the 2nd half for the offense to hit its stride, then we are back to square one on a tight game.  

Having Smoot healthy,  along with Milano is significant.  Groot coming off a strong game is encouraging too.

[zow2]

It’s a beautiful, sunny, windless 42 degrees near Baltimore this afternoon.  I’m walking my dog, no jacket required.  I hope the Ravens are getting in a nice outdoor practice… and thinking man, we are really acclimating to the chilly conditions. We are gonna be ready for that Orchard Park weather!