Bills vs Ravens Divisional Round

[Aussie Joe]

30 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

He is not playing 

[jletha]

 

 

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

It's not about raiding the playbook, it's about having a guy running the scout team who can run and throw. You want Mike White doing it?

 

And that's pretty much what McDermott said about it.

 

 

2 minutes ago, jletha said:

 

 

 

So a few years back in one of the Bills wins at KC, they did something like what YPP says as I recall.  They used pressure to force Mahomes to roll out one way, where Milano was waiting.

[JerseyBills]

MCDERMOTT IOS LOCKED IN

[Negan]

5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

He is not playing 

Surprised the line hasn't moved with this news today.  

 

He seems to be a big part of the passing game and the other guys aren't good IMO.

[CaseyatBat]

20 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

lol that’s not what I was saying I just thought it would be a better way to phrase it…the bills do a lot of what the broncos did to us in the first half, force you into long drives that feel like pulling teeth at times where the odds of making a mistake like a fumble,INT,etc start to go up higher and higher especially with them disguising coverages pretty well.
 

so by defensive/offensive philosophy it gets really difficult for us to lose the turnover battle.  People criticize it when teams score but don’t really give it much credit when it does what it’s supposed to.  Just always gives me a chuckle when every turnover is called luck 🤣

 

everybody does that

[947]

14 minutes ago, stevewin said:

 

I said the same thing earlier in the thread - on RPO plays the Steelers every time just went to tackle Henry with Lamar standing right there (ie., Lamar wasn't in free space and juking and hard to hit).  If they are going to run the RPO destroy Lamar at the mesh point whether he hands off or not

 

 

This! You're allowed to hit the QB on RPO/Read-Option plays when he doesn't have the ball, but fakes like he does.

 

When these plays first started popping up with Chip Kelly's offense, one of the criticisms was that the QB will take a pounding. But nobody ever made it a priority to blast QBs who did it. Now would be a great time to start. Hit Jackson every time he does it & hands off.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

He is not playing 

Some people have been saying this doesn’t matter much and even if you believe that (which I don’t) I think the ravens are one receiver getting banged up in game away from game over if flowers can’t play 

[sleeby]

1 hour ago, jaybeezee said:

Yeah, until you run into a defense that can and will capitalize on the fact that we have no deep threats that will consistently challenge their DB's downfield. Baltimore's defense is ready for the dink and dunk stuff that we do. 

Seems to have worked for tom Brady for quite a long time.  

[jaybeezee]

Just now, sleeby said:

Seems to have worked for tom Brady for quite a long time.  

Quite a long time ago you meant?

[Big Turk]

 

 

[bills742]

22 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:

I have a feeling Flowers will not practice all week but still play. Just sense some gamesmanship going on here

Harbaugh did say he doesn't need to practice to play on Sunday so we may not know until the inactives come out. 

[Big Turk]

Also interesting note...

 

Ball security could be paramount Sunday.  Colder temps = slipperier footballs. Bills should be out hunting for punchouts and strips on Sunday.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Big Turk

[YattaOkasan]

14 minutes ago, jletha said:

 

 

Last game they were running odd mirror for the rush and then an cover 2 man behind it.  Pretty awesome scheme for obvious passing downs because the weakness of 2 man is noone accounts for the QB.  with 3 guys selling out to get the QB off his spot you get better pressure than cage rushing with 4.  

13 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

And that's pretty much what McDermott said about it.

 

 

 

So a few years back in one of the Bills wins at KC, they did something like what YPP says as I recall.  They used pressure to force Mahomes to roll out one way, where Milano was waiting.

its called odd mirror.  they ran it this year against KC as well (among other games).  They ran it last game as well.  If we can get Henry slowed down and they need to pass (hill being on the field would be the tell to they are gonna pass) this is the rush i expect to see. 

Just now, bills742 said:

Harbaugh did say he doesn't need to practice to play on Sunday so we may not know until the inactives come out. 

I do recall that but him being on the field but injured doesnt scare me enough to not plan man coverage.  if he was fully healthy i would have second thoughts.  

[sleeby]

6 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

Quite a long time ago you meant?

3 years ago is not long ago.  You're grasping now.  😗

[boyst]

19 minutes ago, jletha said:

 

 

I respectfully disagree with this 

Man coverage puts your back to the LOS and ball.

The options, rpo, and likelihood that Jackson runs means all eyes must be toward the ball.

 

I 100% disagree with his take unless the ravens WRs are trash and I don't realize it. 

[jaybeezee]

Just now, sleeby said:

3 years ago is not long ago.  You're grasping now.  😗

If your talking about Brady with the Pats than try 2019 bud. If your talking the Bucs then he had Evans and Godwin. Both are better than anyone we have right now!

[Pete]

12 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

 

Von has been great against the run too.  Roseau is the other playmaker on the DL.  Time for Da’Quan and Ed to step up!  I’m happy to see zero Ravens on that chart.  I do believe we will play 4-3 Cover 1 frequently.  It might be a good idea to start with play action, and use the pass to set up the run.

 

GO BILLS!

 

[sleeby]

1 minute ago, jaybeezee said:

If your talking about Brady with the Pats than try 2019 bud. If your talking the Bucs then he had Evans and Godwin. Both are better than anyone we have right now!

Doesn't change the fact that dink and dunk worked long time for Tommy.  And we are second in all the NFL in points and red zone today. Maybe, just maybe - you don't need an elite WR1 for dink and dunk.  See diggs.  See this season.  

And I was referring to Tampa also.  2022.  Might give ya 2021 and so 3 years back.

[YattaOkasan]

10 minutes ago, boyst said:

I respectfully disagree with this 

Man coverage puts your back to the LOS and ball.

The options, rpo, and likelihood that Jackson runs means all eyes must be toward the ball.

 

I 100% disagree with his take unless the ravens WRs are trash and I don't realize it. 

so i think they will run man primarily in obvious passing situations to force lamar to play quicker.  i think his "when blitzed" stats aint great (jackson krueger might have had it in his preview).  the tell for this will be personnel i suspect.  when hill goes in for Henry plan to play man. 

 

ravens WRs besides flowers are not great M2M separators (though Agholor is a bit of a vertical threat).  If anything i worry about TEs (likely, andrews) and RB Hill getting open on safeties and LBs more than i worry about their WR in man coverage.