Bills vs Ravens Divisional Round

[Scott7975]

1 minute ago, jaybeezee said:

Arent you tired of watching bottom feeder teams from just a few years jump ahead of us going to, and some and winning SB's? Do you not think that coaching has a major part in that? 

 

I get that under MC D, we have enjoyed success as far as getting into the playoffs, but that is not the end game. The Steelers fans are not content with winning seasons, just like we shouldnt be  content with just making it to the playoffs.

 

Beane does not get a pass either!

 

The only team thus far to "jump ahead" of us and make the Super bowl since Allen is the Bengals one time. Its been KC and nobody but KC in our conference.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Did any of these guys play in the regular season game vs the Ravens? I'm only remembering Ed

Week 4 Inactives were:

 

Taron Johnson

Mike Edwards

Terrel Bernard

Edefaun Ulofoshio

Will Clapp

 

So - Quinton Jefferson wasn't on the team then, neither was Jordan Phillips. 

 

So my guess is that it was Jones, Oliver, Johnson and Carter. 

[Gregg]

28 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:

This is a huge game for the coaching staff/front office. Losing at home in the divisional round 3 years in a row would show that they're doing something definitively wrong. I know we've run into some juggernauts but it just can't happen again. 

 

The Ravens are good. Really good. But the hype around them has been a little crazy lately. 

 

If the defense ****'s the bed again then at the very least Beane and McDermott have to rethink their philosophy on how the defense should be built and plan accordingly in the draft/FA since Terry is probably not firing them so it will be up to them to fix it. This smaller finesse type of defense hasn't worked especially against physical teams. Stopping teams with bad offenses and bad QBs in the regular season is one thing but there are no bad teams in the playoffs.

[SCBills]

9 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Okay then.

 

Enjoy your misery.

 

Just let the rest of us enjoy the ride.

 

These are the good old days my friend.

 

McDermott is a great person and a really good Head Coach. 

 

His Defense needs to perform this postseason.  They are healthy and there aren't any excuses. 

 

Yes, these are the good ol' days, but if we can't win a Super Bowl, let alone get to one... especially if Mahomes (obviously), Burrow and heaven forbid, Lamar get there... we have a major problem.   

 

This year is as good of a shot as we've ever had.  

 

Sure we'll have a small amount of money this offseason and decent draft capital, but there's no guarantees we're this healthy next year and every wasted chance is another year closer to us missing out on the Allen window.  

 

JA is still young, and hopefully we win it all this year, but the angst for some is very warranted.   And not all, but most of us, really REALLY hope McDermott makes us eat crow.

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by SCBills

[jaybeezee]

Just now, Scott7975 said:

 

The only team thus far to "jump ahead" of us and make the Super bowl since Allen is the Bengals one time. Its been KC and nobody but KC in our conference.

Not just the AFC, but also NFC teams as well. 

[Trust The Process]

5 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Did any of these guys play in the regular season game vs the Ravens? I'm only remembering Ed

Minus Jordan Phillips who got signed by the Bills a week later, they all played

[DaVinci]

2 minutes ago, Gregg said:

If the defense ****'s the bed again then at the very least Beane and McDermott have to rethink their philosophy on how the defense should be built

Last 2 years we are chasing Chiefs offense, Now we have to re-tool for the Ravens. I don't see how this is a wining strategy.  

[Cray51]

1 minute ago, jaybeezee said:

Not just the AFC, but also NFC teams as well. 

IMO we make the SuperBowl as the NFC rep in 2021/22 and 2023/24.  The teams were too good not to.  Hard to be blamed for what you can't control in the other conference.  Until this year, I think the AFC has been hands above the NFC in top end quality.

[jaybeezee]

Just now, SCBills said:

 

McDermott is a great person and a really good Head Coach. 

 

His Defense needs to perform this postseason.  They are healthy and there aren't any excuses. 

 

Yes, these are the good ol' days, but if we can't win a Super Bowl, let alone get to one... especially if Mahomes (obviously), Burrow and heaven forbid, Lamar get there... we have a major problem.   

 

This year is as good of a shot as we've ever had.  

 

Sure we'll have a small amount of money this offseason and decent draft capital, but there's no guarantees we're this healthy next year and every wasted chance is another year closer to us missing out on the Allen window.  

 

JA is still young, and hopefully we win it all this year, but the angst for some is very warranted.   And not all, but most of us, really REALLY hope McDermott makes us eat crow.

 

 

Well said! I dont hate McDermott. I am just stating the obvious. We have one of the best QB's in the NFL and there are teams that dont have what we have that make it to the show at least. We have 1- Conference championship that weve made it to with Josh and Diggs and a healthy Tre, Poyer and Hyde and we have not one SB appearance to show for it. 

 

I am not OK with mediocrity at all. This is our time, right now, not gonna ever accept having a healthy MVP caliber QB continue to just make the playoffs. Im not knocking anyone that is OK with being competitive, but just participating isnt enough for me and I fear that Pegula will run with the status quo until the well has run dry.

[MikePJ76]

7 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Week 4 Inactives were:

 

Taron Johnson

Mike Edwards

Terrel Bernard

Edefaun Ulofoshio

Will Clapp

 

So - Quinton Jefferson wasn't on the team then, neither was Jordan Phillips. 

 

So my guess is that it was Jones, Oliver, Johnson and Carter. 

austin johnson and taylor rapp both got hurt early in the ravens game too.  Rapp got a concussion tackling henry in the first quarter and johnson got an oblique injury at some point in the game.  Can't remember when.

[Cray51]

This game is incredibly important for McD.  Beane is safe - he wont be fired regardless of outcome.  If we get smashed by the Ravens, say 35-17 - there will be a LOT of call for Sean to be fired and maybe Brady promoted to HC.  Personally, I'm not a fan of this, and I think Sean should 100% be the coach next season, however I could lots of call for change if we go a third year in a row without making the championship game

[Kelly to Allen]

9 minutes ago, Trust The Process said:

Minus Jordan Phillips who got signed by the Bills a week later, they all played

 

This is highly misleading 

 

Austin Johnson got hurt in the ravens game 

Oliver was not 100% and missed the next 2 weeks 

Daquan was not 100% on the eye test 

No Jefferson 

No Phillips 

Carter still learning 

 

No Taron Johnson

No Bernard

No Milano 

 

Taylor rapp got hurt early 

 

Allen not 100%

McGovern missed like almost an entire qtr or first half I can't remember 

Shakir sprain on first series 

No Cooper 

Samuel banged up and was clearly hampered

Coleman still learning 

 

I think even Kincaid missed a few series from a poke in the eye 

 

 

The entire wr core was compromised 

The entire middle of the defense was compromised 

 

Anyone taking anything from that game is living in an alternate universe 

 

I remember that the next week against the Texans half the team was out it seemed like. 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Kelly to Allen

[Gregg]

4 minutes ago, DaVinci said:

Last 2 years we are chasing Chiefs offense, Now we have to re-tool for the Ravens. I don't see how this is a wining strategy.  

 

They need a better front 4/7 in terms of stopping the run and getting after the QB. I don't care who the Bills are playing this has been a problem for some time.

[RyanC883]

1 minute ago, Cray51 said:

This game is incredibly important for McD.  Beane is safe - he wont be fired regardless of outcome.  If we get smashed by the Ravens, say 35-17 - there will be a LOT of call for Sean to be fired and maybe Brady promoted to HC.  Personally, I'm not a fan of this, and I think Sean should 100% be the coach next season, however I could lots of call for change if we go a third year in a row without making the championship game

 

agreed.  You can't waste JA forever.  There are very few QBs as talented as JA who have never been to a SB, much less not won a SB.  

[eball]

1 minute ago, Cray51 said:

This game is incredibly important for McD.  Beane is safe - he wont be fired regardless of outcome.  If we get smashed by the Ravens, say 35-17 - there will be a LOT of call for Sean to be fired and maybe Brady promoted to HC.  Personally, I'm not a fan of this, and I think Sean should 100% be the coach next season, however I could lots of call for change if we go a third year in a row without making the championship game

 

Can we just get an "I hate McDermott" thread and pin it, so every time somebody wants to post something about how he should be fired it just goes into that thread and doesn't clutter up every other thread?

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Jones 63% snaps

Oliver 72% snaps

Johnson 12% snaps

Carter 46% snaps

 

Jones and Oliver must have been washed out in that game because neither one of them had a recorded statistic. 

[Scott7975]

12 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Week 4 Inactives were:

 

Taron Johnson

Mike Edwards

Terrel Bernard

Edefaun Ulofoshio

Will Clapp

 

So - Quinton Jefferson wasn't on the team then, neither was Jordan Phillips. 

 

So my guess is that it was Jones, Oliver, Johnson and Carter. 

 

Here were the defensive snap counts against the Ravens in week 4. I'll put the offensive ones next to it as well...

 

14 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

Not just the AFC, but also NFC teams as well. 

 

The NFC has pretty much been garbage. Its easier to get to a super bowl there when you don't have to get through Reid and Mahomes. 

[Solomon Grundy]

14 minutes ago, Trust The Process said:

Minus Jordan Phillips who got signed by the Bills a week later, they all played

Quinton Jefferson?

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Von will definitely play more this time around, no Spector is probably the biggest boost to the Bills defense. 

 

I mean this is it, like @SCBills said there aren't any excuses. 

 

At home, the defense is 100% healthy. It's as good as you're going to get. 

 

They have everyone at their disposal except Baylon Spector - and nobody wants to see him ever again on a football field for the Bills.

Just now, Solomon Grundy said:

Quinton Jefferson?

Didn't join until the Colts game. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Straight Hucklebuck

[Sestak4ever]

One interesting thought is, maybe the Broncos are actually better than how they were perceived against us. They should have beaten KC twice, albeit one time minus Mahomes and other starters. With that being said, maybe we can handle the Ravens better than what we are currently thinking. Running the ball will be key. Early on in the Denver game when I saw us effectively running I figured we’ve got this game. Let’s run well and get a turnover or two. Go Bills!! 🏈